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Started by logan230, October 16, 2014, 05:42:37 PM

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I'm trying to figure out the old routing of US 119 north of Logan.

For years, the last gap in the route was the section that bypasses Logan to the north. Originally, US 119 came in from the south on what is now WV 44, then was wrong-way concurrent with WV 10, then it followed what is now WV 17 to Madison and Danville.

When the segment west of Chapmanville was built, but the Logan bypass not yet completed, US 119 dropped off the four-lane at Holden, then was concurrent with WV 10 to a point near Pecks Mill, where WV 10 crosses the Guyandotte River and US 119 continued north on the west bank of the river to the point where the four-lane picked back up.

What was that stretch of old US 119 between WV 10 and the current four-lane originally numbered? Google Maps indicates it's now County 119/90.

In a related note, there is no reference to WV 17 on the new WV 10 four-lane south of downtown Logan. It appears that WV 17 is currently one of the few routes (if not the only route) that doesn't connect to a state primary highway on either end. WV 17 currently ends at old WV 10, Hanging Rock Road.
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Quote from: hbelkins on July 21, 2025, 03:35:57 PMI'm trying to figure out the old routing of US 119 north of Logan.

For years, the last gap in the route was the section that bypasses Logan to the north. Originally, US 119 came in from the south on what is now WV 44, then was wrong-way concurrent with WV 10, then it followed what is now WV 17 to Madison and Danville.

When the segment west of Chapmanville was built, but the Logan bypass not yet completed, US 119 dropped off the four-lane at Holden, then was concurrent with WV 10 to a point near Pecks Mill, where WV 10 crosses the Guyandotte River and US 119 continued north on the west bank of the river to the point where the four-lane picked back up.

What was that stretch of old US 119 between WV 10 and the current four-lane originally numbered? Google Maps indicates it's now County 119/90.

In a related note, there is no reference to WV 17 on the new WV 10 four-lane south of downtown Logan. It appears that WV 17 is currently one of the few routes (if not the only route) that doesn't connect to a state primary highway on either end. WV 17 currently ends at old WV 10, Hanging Rock Road.

I've got an old Logan County map from 1933 that shows WV-10 routed up the east side of the Guyandotte River all the way through Logan County.  Back then, there were no roads whatsoever on the west side of the Guyan north of Logan, except for one short piece that crossed the Guyan at Pecks Mill and another that crossed the Guyan at what was then called Godby (now Godby Heights) and ran eastward along the west bank. 

The first (southernmost) section appears to be along the route of modern-day WV-10 where it crosses the Guyan.  It looks to be less than a half-mile in length.

The second (northernmost) section appears to be Northgate Road (CR-10/44) in Godby Heights then crossed the river just west of that industrial contractor that sits beside the State Police barracks (you can still see the connection).  That road runs along what is modern-day Old Logan Road (CR-119/90) and ends just after it crossed into what was then the Logan District (probably just past modern-day Bluebell Trail, not all that far northwest of the current bridge at Pecks Mill).

The 1963 USGS map shows all of Old Logan Road northwest of the Pecks Mill Bridge as paved but unnumbered. 

Whoa.  The 1928 USGS map also shows WV-10 on its current route into Logan and up the west side of the Guyan River up to the Pecks Mill Bridge.  But there are no roads on the southwest bank up to the edge of the map (almost makes it to Godby Heights).  I suspect that my Logan County map (published by John Ice, Co.) was incorrect on the routing, but it is very detailed.

You might need to go to the Logan County Library to find an old WV State Road Commission map to figure out the route number back in those days.

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Quote from: hbelkins on July 21, 2025, 03:35:57 PMI'm trying to figure out the old routing of US 119 north of Logan.
For years, the last gap in the route was the section that bypasses Logan to the north. Originally, US 119 came in from the south on what is now WV 44, then was wrong-way concurrent with WV 10, then it followed what is now WV 17 to Madison and Danville.
When the segment west of Chapmanville was built, but the Logan bypass not yet completed, US 119 dropped off the four-lane at Holden, then was concurrent with WV 10 to a point near Pecks Mill, where WV 10 crosses the Guyandotte River and US 119 continued north on the west bank of the river to the point where the four-lane picked back up.
What was that stretch of old US 119 between WV 10 and the current four-lane originally numbered? Google Maps indicates it's now County 119/90.
In a related note, there is no reference to WV 17 on the new WV 10 four-lane south of downtown Logan. It appears that WV 17 is currently one of the few routes (if not the only route) that doesn't connect to a state primary highway on either end. WV 17 currently ends at old WV 10, Hanging Rock Road.
WV-17 Logan-Madison is the old US-119. I can see it on a 1966 Virginia map pdf that I have.

As far as the exact routing of old US-119 in Logan, I don't know.
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You may recall a previous post where I discussed renumbering of County Roads along U.S. Routes.  I highly suspect that Logan County renumbered a bunch of routes when they ran out of denominators for the 119 numerator (and started using the 219 numerator).  It wouldn't surprise me that the original number of Old Logan Road had a lowered numbered denominator that has been reused somewhere else.

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Quote from: hbelkins on July 21, 2025, 03:35:57 PMI'm trying to figure out the old routing of US 119 north of Logan.

For years, the last gap in the route was the section that bypasses Logan to the north. Originally, US 119 came in from the south on what is now WV 44, then was wrong-way concurrent with WV 10, then it followed what is now WV 17 to Madison and Danville.

When the segment west of Chapmanville was built, but the Logan bypass not yet completed, US 119 dropped off the four-lane at Holden, then was concurrent with WV 10 to a point near Pecks Mill, where WV 10 crosses the Guyandotte River and US 119 continued north on the west bank of the river to the point where the four-lane picked back up.

What was that stretch of old US 119 between WV 10 and the current four-lane originally numbered? Google Maps indicates it's now County 119/90.

What is now Old Logan Road (Logan County Route 119/90) was shown as County Route 3/3 on the 1933, 1937, and 1946 Logan County maps. To the best of my knowledge, it remained that until US 119 was routed over it in the 1970s.

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Quote from: Bitmapped on July 21, 2025, 06:13:26 PMWhat is now Old Logan Road (Logan County Route 119/90) was shown as County Route 3/3 on the 1933, 1937, and 1946 Logan County maps. To the best of my knowledge, it remained that until US 119 was routed over it in the 1970s.

Good find.  After I got on the road this afternoon, I realized that Old Logan Road was nowhere near US-119 in the days before Corridor G was rerouted through Chapmanville (so there was noways that it would have a 119 numerator).



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