RIP-Rochester Inner Loop East

[cl94]

Ohio has at least two Innerbelts that were never complete loops.

Youngstown IIRC was one.  What's the other?

Ixnay, Youngstown is a complete ooplay...?

Messrs. Rand and McNally show the U.S. 62 leg as a standard dual carriage way in their 2015 atlas which is the basis of my Youngstown assumption (though it looks like controlled access on Google satellite).  Better tell R-McN to make that stretch limited access blue.

Akron and Cleveland have them.

Is Akron's inner belt OH 8, I-76/77, and OH 59?

As for Cleveland, OH 2 and I-90 look more like a horseshoe than a belt.

ixnay

SR 59 was supposed to continue to SR 8. Don't know much about Cleveland.

Youngstown was limited-access in 1994 (as far back as Historic Aerials goes) and, going by topo maps, may have been constructed as such. Rand McNally gets a bunch of stuff wrong in Ohio (i.e. US 23 between Columbus and SR 15).

[NE2]

Is Akron's inner belt OH 8, I-76/77, and OH 59?

No, only SR 59. Maybe more originally had the name.

[ixnay]

Ixnay, Youngstown is a complete ooplay...?

My handle honors The Flintstones, not The Simpsons.

ixnay

[Sykotyk]

I can safely say that US62 is a full freeway from I-680 until Albert St where it turns north. Also, US422/OH193 is a full freeway from I-680 until it ends at Oak St, where US422 heads east. The two freeways have a partial interchange, however if you want to run a complete loop in either direction, you will never leave a freeway.

US62 to US422 requires a loop ramp off a c/d lane, and US422 to US62 has a regular freeway-to-freeway right hand ramp. RIght now, US62 is under reconstruction from I-680 through Himrod Ave. The EB offramp is open, but the WB onramp is currently closed as traffic is shifted to the EB lanes.

[ixnay]

I can safely say that US62 is a full freeway from I-680 until Albert St where it turns north. Also, US422/OH193 is a full freeway from I-680 until it ends at Oak St, where US422 heads east. The two freeways have a partial interchange, however if you want to run a complete loop in either direction, you will never leave a freeway.

US62 to US422 requires a loop ramp off a c/d lane, and US422 to US62 has a regular freeway-to-freeway right hand ramp. RIght now, US62 is under reconstruction from I-680 through Himrod Ave. The EB offramp is open, but the WB onramp is currently closed as traffic is shifted to the EB lanes.

Yes, I noticed the construction on Google Satellite.

ixnay

[iBallasticwolf2]

If more of the Inner Loop is torn down would it be a good idea for the existing freeway to have a new terminus at St. Paul street or Scio street?

[Alps]

If more of the Inner Loop is torn down would it be a good idea for the existing freeway to have a new terminus at St. Paul street or Scio street?

Well, that would be Fictional Highways - like every other post you make - so please post about it there.

[jemacedo9]

Just in the past week, crews are starting to move dirt in, just north of the Monroe Ave bridge, and it looks like they are already starting to fill in the section starting there.  The Broad St bridge is closing 3/28 to be demolished.

[SteveG1988]

Here is a question, how much of a difference will filling it in make to flooding and such?

[empirestate]

There's now a webcam where you can follow along with the dismantling of the Loop.

[davewiecking]

Impressive collection of stuff they're tossing in the trench.

[Revive 755]

SR 59 was supposed to continue to SR 8. Don't know much about Cleveland.

Pretty sure Cleveland has been discussed elsewhere, but until I find the posts, some of the figures here and here may help.

[Duke87]

Impressive collection of stuff they're tossing in the trench.

I also note it's being thrown on top of the old pavement without actually dismantling anything. Some archaeologists (or future construction workers) may have quite the find in that area someday.

[iBallasticwolf2]

Impressive collection of stuff they're tossing in the trench.

I also note it's being thrown on top of the old pavement without actually dismantling anything. Some archaeologists (or future construction workers) may have quite the find in that area someday.

It could give them insight on our "Modern" roadways.

[route17fan]

I hope they save the button copy!! 

[empirestate]

Impressive collection of stuff they're tossing in the trench.

I also note it's being thrown on top of the old pavement without actually dismantling anything. Some archaeologists (or future construction workers) may have quite the find in that area someday.

I'm reasonably sure this is not the actual filling-in process we're witnessing, amusing though that would be. :-)


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[cl94]

I hope they save the button copy!! 

Most of that was already gone

[davewiecking]

I almost feel like driving up there with a load of concrete scrap just to help out.

[empirestate]

Impressive collection of stuff they're tossing in the trench.

I also note it's being thrown on top of the old pavement without actually dismantling anything. Some archaeologists (or future construction workers) may have quite the find in that area someday.

I'm reasonably sure this is not the actual filling-in process we're witnessing, amusing though that would be. :-)

Looking at the webcam today, we can confirm they intend to dismantle the roadway. Zooming in on the second camera, you can make out a marking that says "REMOVE PAVT". I'm guessing they will rip up half of the roadway at a time, then move some fill over to the cleared out area and dismantle what they've uncovered.

[davewiecking]

They're about to bury the marking...

[davewiecking]

Editing a 2 month old post seems a bit silly, but they mostly uncovered the "Remove Pavt" marking today. It's under the silt somewhere...

[davewiecking]

And today they started digging a trench across the trench...right about where the "Remove Pavt" marking used to be...

[steviep24]

And today they started digging a trench across the trench...right about where the "Remove Pavt" marking used to be...

I was in that area two weeks ago and they started to remove the East Ave. bridge then.

[RobbieL2415]

Can I just say, as a casual traveler to Rochester for family visits, that I never found the Inner Loop to be useful at all?

[empirestate]

Can I just say, as a casual traveler to Rochester for family visits, that I never found the Inner Loop to be useful at all?

You can. But can I also say, as a once-lifelong resident, that I found it quite useful in several ways, albeit very specific ones. For example, when traveling from the SE part of the city, as I often was, to the NE quadrant of downtown, as I often was, the Inner Loop made for a handy bypass of the Broad St. and East Ave. intersections with Union St. (which served to replace the never-built connection between I-490 WB and the counter-clockwise Inner Loop).

(This did not work for the reverse commute, however; indeed, one of the loop's biggest drawbacks was the lack of certain connections in certain directions.)

Also, whenever I had an alignment or any work done on my car that would affect its handling, I would routinely take it out for a lap or two on the Inner Loop as a sort of test track.