Goodbye Mount McKinley. Hello Mount Denali

[Pete from Boston]

Furthermore, just so people know what it feels like, the former president will be known for the next hundred years as "William Denali."

[roadman65]

Hartsfield- Jackson in Atlanta.  I do not know the first names of whom those two individuals are that the airport in Atlanta was named for, but rather than rid Hartsfield of the airport name they just added on the second name.

Then there is the Hoover Dam Bypass that has two names given to the rainbow arch bridge.  Tilghman and O' Malley both with separate first names.

[english si]

Voldemort?

Don't say the name!

Oh wait, he's been dead for a little over 17 years and James Potter started at Hogwarts today? Oh, then speak Tom Riddle's nickname at will.

Speaking of which, Kings Cross station is technically 'London Kings Cross' and has been for a few years. Over the road is St Pancras station. Sorry, I mean London St Pancras International. No one but official stuff (announcements, signs, train indicators) call London's mainline termini by their proper name. It's always 'Waterloo' or 'Liverpool Street'. 'London Bridge' is the only one with London in its name (and the only one that didn't have London dumped on it - they drew the line at 'London London Bridge'!).

[oscar]

Speaking of which, Kings Cross station is technically 'London Kings Cross' and has been for a few years. Over the road is St Pancras station. Sorry, I mean London St Pancras International. No one but official stuff (announcements, signs, train indicators) call London's mainline termini by their proper name. It's always 'Waterloo' or 'Liverpool Street'. 'London Bridge' is the only one with London in its name (and the only one that didn't have London dumped on it - they drew the line at 'London London Bridge'!).

Reagan National airport in my area is officially "Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport". Some busybody Congresscritter insisted that the airport, and the Metro system, use the full name -- no shorthand or abbreviations. I've heard train operators slowly speak out the full name, with as much sarcasm as they could muster, as trains approached the airport stop.

Most people just call it "National" or "Reagan National".  Laws don't matter as much as some lawmakers might prefer.

[noelbotevera]

Here's the problem: the name Mount McKinley has stuck with people for years and years. I think it's too late to change it.

[jakeroot]

Here's the problem: the name Mount McKinley has stuck with people for years and years. I think it's too late to change it.

That's not true in all parts of the US. Denali is the predominant term in the NW and Alaska, so the change will be easy. Can't speak for the rest of the country, nor Canada, but it's far from "late".

[Pete from Boston]

Here's the problem: the name Mount McKinley has stuck with people for years and years. I think it's too late to change it.

Leningrad stuck with people for years and years, too.

Live long enough, and you learn that all these things are fluid.

[kkt]

Denali was the name for a lot longer than McKinley was.

[vdeane]

I don't think I even heard the name Denali prior to the announcement a couple days ago.

Fun fact: the name Mount McKinley came from when McKinley was the Republican candidate for president and was originally a joke intended as a snub to Democratic candidate and silver standard advocate William Jennings Bryan.

[SteveG1988]

Jim Thorpe PA, the man never lived there, Native Name was Mauch Chunk.

[formulanone]

My personal opinion is this is only be reported because Caitlyn Jenner is old news.  The media loves to...

Did you ever think there's actually a whole lot of things happening in an ever-changing world, and that it's not all about your interests? Twenty years ago, you had a handful of media outlets and the local news. Now you actually have more to choose from, but like anything with myriad choices, some items garner just more interest than others.

Not to sound like a hipster, but if hadn't been absent on the day we had to choose a National Park for 6th Grade General Science class, I'd never have known there was a Denali National Park, either. (Since every other state choice was taken by her two classes the day before.)

[SteveG1988]

McKinley is a fine name for a bridge, but it does not have the right...ring to it for a mountain.

[Otto Yamamoto]

Glad our President has the affairs of the country so well in hand that he can take the time to rename a mountain peak.

Isn't that a little like saying people in South Carolina must have all their pressing problems solved if they have the free time to protest a flag?

Point taken.  Forgive me for having a hard time with government (be at the Federal, state, or local level) engaging in the cheap politics of naming or renaming things.  Especially when it's done by executive order or decree.

It's not 'renaming' as much  as 'de-naming'.

[jwolfer]

Reminds me if Cape Canaveral being Cape Kennedy, never really caught on.

Istanbul was Constantinople.

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it I can't say
People just liked it better that way

That's no body's business but the Turks

[TravelingBethelite]

Reminds me if Cape Canaveral being Cape Kennedy, never really caught on.

Istanbul was Constantinople.

Even old New York was once New Amsterdam
Why they changed it I can't say
People just liked it better that way

That's no body's business but the Turks

[Otto Yamamoto]

Its not only assissinated Presidents that are heroes.  Bill Clinton received a blow job from Monica Lewinski and every post hippie liberal considered him to be a hero just for that particular act  Then some consider Obama to be a hero for the things hes either done or not have done.

All I know is that a lot of people have been used to a name for over a century and now someone on a whim decides to change it.  Even if Bush, especially him I should say, decided to change a name of a landmark that was changed years ago, you would also hear an argument as well.  Maybe from the other side of the aisle, but nonetheless another argument.

That is why I hate politics so much period.  Too much us and them and not enough togetherness.

That's hilarious.

[Otto Yamamoto]

Bill Clinton received a blow job from Monica Lewinski and every post hippie liberal considered him to be a hero just for that particular act

Name five people who consider him to be a hero just for that particular act.

The minute I hear 'liberal', it's pretty much a given that you are the Babylon.

[SteveG1988]

[billtm]

I remember on my old personal globe, it was called "Mt. McKinley (Denali)", and that's what I've always known it as.

[roadman65]

Bill Clinton received a blow job from Monica Lewinski and every post hippie liberal considered him to be a hero just for that particular act

Name five people who consider him to be a hero just for that particular act.

The minute I hear 'liberal', it's pretty much a given that you are the Babylon.

I lived in the day when that scandal came out and when he was acquitted for his ordeal, many people at the time who were pro sex (meaning the sexual revolution supporters which came from the Vietnam war protests) were happy not because he was allowed to stay in office, but because they felt that oral sex finally got accepted and that we as a culture should accept open relationships like the Clintons have.

I had to deal with them at work, at a club I once belonged too.  Yes, people were saying "all right" and cheering him on for able to be allowed to get away from the taboo that religion has placed on sex before marriage and all the stuff that many hate the church's teaching on for decades.  As far as the use of the term liberals goes its a group that protests against tradition as conservatives are those who protect what is established.  As we know there are conservatives, liberals, moderates, and other inbetween words to describe people.  The Hippie movement was big and it did a lot for society as many things did change over the years like the removal of censorship and the latest same sex marriage and the removal of the mental illness that was placed on gay lifestyles at one time!

This thread seems to point out what Bandit Darvil said in Smokey And The Bandit to his girlfriend Carrie, "it all depends on what part of the country you are standing in is to how dumb you are."  It seems we all believe in what we are taught in our own area as the norm not realizing that other areas teach something completely different like the name of a mountain.

[Rothman]

many people at the time who were pro sex (meaning the sexual revolution supporters which came from the Vietnam war protests)

That would make you...anti-sex?

[Duke87]

It's not my fault those that were only taught that it was Mount McKinley went to substandard high schools.

Duke said "everyone" in the Northeast only knows it as Mount McKinley.  That's just not true.

Only if one interprets the word "everyone" literally, which usually is not the intent with statements of this sort and certainly was not the intent here. We're talking about demographics, not laws of physics.

I've seen someone say every mountain's name in the English language has the word "mount" as part of it.  Far from the truth.  Tagging mount onto Pike's Peak sounds a bit overboard.

What I actually said:

we name mountains in the form "Mount __", "__ Mountain", or something of that sort.

(emphasis added)

"__ Peak" would fall into the "something of that sort" category. As would "__ Hill", "__ Butte", "__ Mesa", "__ Ridge", etc. Listing every possibility would have been cumbersome.

The point I was arguing is that "Denali" does not follow standard English naming conventions since it lacks any accompanying prefix or suffix word identifying the nature of the physical feature it describes. This is more of an OCD complaint than anything else, much in the same way that we all love to hate the numbering of I-99 and I-238.

[kkt]

It wasn't a matter of pro-sex or anti-sex, it was a matter of sex being nobody's business but the people involved.  The Republicans spent, what, 40 million dollars that was supposed to be investigating any possible illegality in the Clinton's land deals, and all they could find out was that he got a blow job?

[corco]

What I actually said:

we name mountains in the form "Mount __", "__ Mountain", or something of that sort.

(emphasis added)

"__ Peak" would fall into the "something of that sort" category. As would "__ Hill", "__ Butte", "__ Mesa", "__ Ridge", etc. Listing every possibility would have been cumbersome.

The point I was arguing is that "Denali" does not follow standard English naming conventions since it lacks any accompanying prefix or suffix word identifying the nature of the physical feature it describes. This is more of an OCD complaint than anything else, much in the same way that we all love to hate the numbering of I-99 and I-238.

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[jakeroot]

The point I was arguing is that "Denali" does not follow standard English naming conventions

Good news: Denali is an aboriginal word. There is no requirement for it to fit standard English naming conventions.