Routes with random ends

Started by Alps, October 21, 2015, 08:47:16 PM

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Alps

These routes don't end at other routes, state lines, bodies of water, or other even quasi-logical points like stubby freeway/expressway ends. It's pretty random.
NJ: Not counting tiny state takeovers like 13 and 64, only substantive routes.
NJ 7 — Ignoring the fact that it has a discontinuity in the middle, the north end is at the Passaic County line so close to NJ 3. It even crosses the county line before that without a problem — and has county maintenance there!
NJ 10 — Even if state maintenance always ended at CR 577, the NJ 10 designation at least continued east past there historically. Why wasn't it truncated at I-280?
NJ 26 — North end at New Brunswick border. Why not continue it to 171 at Suydam? Even secretly (like 171)? 171 is municipal, so 26 could be as well.
NJ 44 — Heading north ,it passes the ramps for I-295 SB, then ends at CR 640, with the ramps for I-295 NB to the east. If 44 is going to end at 295, at least end it at one of these sets of ramps. Makes sense for it to be the NB ramps — the overpass is a state highway anyway.
NJ 63 — Branches off of JFK Blvd. at the county line. No, wait, a few hundred feet south of the line. JFK Blvd. had to be improved north of 88th Street, but that remains under county jurisdiction. 63 is a spur without a cause.
NJ 91 — North end not even at the New Brunswick border, but at Van Dyke Ave. There's nothing there. Just extend it to 27 on the county route. 27 is county, so 91 could be as well.
NJ 122 — West end at a random street while concurrent with a county route. State maintenance ended at CR 519. Either end 122 there as a short spur into Pohatcong, or extend it back into Phillipsburg (signed or unsigned).
NJ 124 — 24 once extended into Newark, but 124 ends at the Irvington border. According to the SLDs, the entire route through Maplewood is town-maintained, so why end the route where it becomes county-maintained (603)? It should at least end at the Parkway, or swap it with Vauxhall Road to end at 78.
NJ 143 — This was once a tiny state takeover, but then NJDOT took the rest of it south from US 30. Why this couldn't have remained county is anyone's guess; it's not like a state psychiatric facility is always on a state highway in NJ.
NJ 161 — It begins at what was planned to be a state highway (Allwood Road as S-3), and ends at the then-existing street grid. Now it has two random ends, although each end has a raison d'être. Should be extended west to at least the NJ 3 WB ramps.
NJ 168 — Ends at the Camden line. You know this once went farther into Camden. If it's going to be truncated, truncate it to US 130.
NJ 172 — Yes, the western end is where state maintenance ends. But that doesn't stop 171. 172 should continue west to meet 171 at Livingston St.

Not random: NJ 23 (Bloomfield Ave. was once NJ 9), NJ 27 (once ended at 21 before being cut off at Broad Street)

bonus: NY 9A — Could end at I-478, could end at FDR Drive, instead continues above tunnel and ends at Battery Place.


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SD Mapman

Most of the state routes in Utah that "end" at an interstate actually end at the first cross road beyond the exit.
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roadman65

I like the way US 319 ends midway on a causeway just east of Apalachicola.  However, I heard that was because the original crossing was a ferry and the old terminal was at the location of the current end of US 319, and FDOT never asked AASHTO to extend US 319 so it at least goes into Apalachicola itself where it would not be so random.

I believe I talked about this for another thread with a similar topic not too long ago as I feel dejavu while writing this.

I never also understood why FL 438 in Orlando just ends at Rio Grande Avenue, an unnumbered route where US 441 is just one block away and it could easily end there. 

Then there is the south end of FL 424 that ends someplace in the College Park section of Orlando not marked at all.  I believe its where the state maintenance ends, somewhere around Par Street. 


Also FL 436 ends not at FL 528, but just south of it across a bridge over a creek as Airport Maintenance begins at that crossing and not 528 proper as signs would tell you otherwise.  On a similar note, FL 536 western terminus ends at the Disney property line, but is signed on the pull through sign W Bound at the I-4 West exit at least being somewhat right.
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ajlynch91

IL 155 and IL 156 just end in the middle of nowhere, deep in Southern Illinois. Both serve rural communities west of IL-3, although 156 is a bit longer. What is strange is that they literally just end, pavement continues as as unnumbered roads, neither of which I don't believe is controlled by the state, further still, if they were state maintained, IL-155 could easily be absorbed by a much longer 156.

pianocello

IIRC, US-12 ends at Michigan Ave and Cass St in downtown Detroit. I'm not sure why it ends at Cass St, since Cass isn't a state route, and I don't think it ever has been. They would have been better off keeping that section to Campus Martius Park/Cadillac Sq, or even truncating it to I-94. For that matter, I'm surprised Michigan hasn't truncated it all the way to Ypsilanti.
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FL 648  548's western terminus in Lakeland, FL where it ends at George Jenkins Blvd instead of US 92 about a mile later.
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NJ 7's north end is at NJ 3 according to signage (?) and Passaic County records: http://www.passaiccountynj.org/DocumentCenter/View/111 (p. 67)
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jeffandnicole

Quote from: Alps on October 21, 2015, 08:47:16 PM
NJ 44 — Heading north ,it passes the ramps for I-295 SB, then ends at CR 640, with the ramps for I-295 NB to the east. If 44 is going to end at 295, at least end it at one of these sets of ramps. Makes sense for it to be the NB ramps — the overpass is a state highway anyway.

Per the Straight Line Diagrams, it actually Begins/Ends at a small U-Turn area just South of CR 644, which is about a mile north of CR 640 (This also lines up with my jurisdiction with plowing/salting the roadway).  And since that is part of the ramp system for 295 South, it does have a logical end to it.  The road signage is incorrect as the signs show the route beginning/ending at 640...AND a quarter mile north, at Woodbury Rd (the SB side is oddly marked with a MILE END sign).  But per the SLD, neither of these signed locations are the proper begin/end points of 44.

However, the southern end of Rt. 44 doesn't have a logical end.  It ends at Barker Ave, which is a small residential side street between NJ 44 & Rt. 130.  And that road we have been highly instructed NOT to plow!  Apparently there's some guy on the street that doesn't want heavy trucks using the road, and had called the local police to enforce the 4 ton restriction on the road.  So...since NJDOT plow trucks are over 4 tons, we don't plow the road, even though we had historically treated the road as a courtesy because of the Rt. 130 connection.

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NJ 168 — Ends at the Camden line. You know this once went farther into Camden. If it's going to be truncated, truncate it to US 130.

If that's the case, then Camden doesn't have any state routes within its city's borders whatsoever.  I thought I saw a small piece of Camden (literally, a block) jut out from an otherwise smooth border just north of the 130/168 intersection, which allows 168 to enter Camden for a few hundred feet.

formulanone

Florida is loaded with these; many routes shift from secondary/county maintenance seemingly willy-nilly. In built-up suburbs, many SRs give no notification that they're no longer state-maintained. But at least they don't really stop unless they connect to another numbered route, with the exception of roads that end on islands or terminate at parks.

Alabama has a few of these.

AL 227 just stops at the Etowah county line, instead of continuing along Duck Springs Road.

AL 255 might as well be signed along a few miles of Bob Wade Road.


dgolub

NY 101 - randomly turns into an unnumbered county road.  Extend it north to the end of Sands Point, and make Lighthouse Road a reference route with TO SOUTH NY 101 shields on it.
NY 107 - ends at the former NY 27A.  Keep it as is but resurrect NY 27A along Merrick Road.
NY 108 - ends at Woodbury Road (Nassau CR 12) and Pulaski Road (Suffolk CR 11).  Not sure what to do with this one.
NY 112 - ends at the former NY 27A.  Keep it as is but resurrect NY 27A along Montauk Highway
Eastern NY 24 - ends at the former NY 27A.  Ditto.
NY 878 - floating segment.  Designate Rockaway Boulevard in Queens and Rockaway Turnpike (Nassau CR 257) as NY 878 to connect the two segments.  Even better, designate the remainder of Rockaway Turnpike, along with Meadow Lane and Rock Hall Road, as Business NY 878
NY 171 - floating segment.  Northern terminus is at the former NY 5S.  Extend it north a little to the current NY 5S.  Not sure what to do with the southern terminus.
NY 840 - turns into Oneida CR 840 a little bit past the end of the expressway.  Extend it along the entirety of CR 840.

corco

It'd be faster to give you a list of state highways in Wyoming that don't meet that definition.

vtk

OH 134 runs north out of Wilmington, crosses I-71 without an interchange, then ends in the town of Port William.  Continuing on the county road, it's a straight shot to Jamestown, where a connection with OH 72 and US 35 would be logical.

OH 16's west end in downtown Columbus, along an overlap with US 40 on Broad St, is at Marconi Blvd / Civic Center Blvd, on the east bank of the Scioto. I think, for some years in the middle 20th century, that crossroad was southeastbound US 33.
Wait, it's all Ohio? Always has been.

bassoon1986

I'd wager that half of Louisiana's highways don't have a logical terminus.

TheStranger

Trying to avoid California examples that are entirely the result of route relinquishment or are unsigned...

Route 59 becomes county route J59 at a turnoff east of the town of Snelling:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Snelling,+CA+95369/@37.5207483,-120.4399722,15.42z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x80913c0886c7365b:0x1fee26bc2442f8af

Although the legislative definition for Route 281 is longer, the actual existing portion of the route ends at a random intersection north of Clear Lake Riviera:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Bayshore+Ln,+Kelseyville,+CA+95451/@38.9643339,-122.7390738,1672m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x8083f3431bfc2f49:0xdb255fca85371583

Route 213 in San Pedro (Los Angeles) ends at 25th Street.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Western+Ave+%26+W+25th+St,+San+Pedro,+CA+90732/@33.7229486,-118.31507,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x80dd49cd30a023f7:0xa1b38d9a11e6410b

While Route 261 in Irvine has a seemingly logical terminus (Interstate 5), a county-maintained freeway (Jamboree Road) continues on for a whole two miles to Barranca Parkway.
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Jamboree+Rd,+Irvine,+CA/@33.7135988,-117.8151035,13.25z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x80dcdc1957216161:0x600682491a7b2768

The southern segment of Route 39 ends along a former portion of US 101 (later Route 72) at the intersection of Harbor Boulevard and Whittier Avenue in La Habra.  (I'm still not sure if the gap between La Habra and Azusa was ever actually signed as 39)
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Harbor+Blvd+%26+E+Whittier+Blvd,+La+Habra,+CA+90631/@33.9391837,-117.935241,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x80dd2aacd1b7f68d:0x21f2d91aafd87cb9

This intersection appears to be the northern terminus of Route 191 in Paradise:
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Clark+Rd+%26+Pearson+Rd,+Paradise,+CA+95969/@39.7522633,-121.6097616,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x809cd35f9a263013:0x2dcf9d46c9c79823


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vdeane

Quote from: dgolub on October 22, 2015, 10:08:26 AM
NY 171 - floating segment.  Northern terminus is at the former NY 5S.  Extend it north a little to the current NY 5S.  Not sure what to do with the southern terminus.
You mean NY 5?  NY 171 actually crosses current NY 5S.

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Brandon

Quote from: ajlynch91 on October 21, 2015, 11:28:46 PM
IL 155 and IL 156 just end in the middle of nowhere, deep in Southern Illinois. Both serve rural communities west of IL-3, although 156 is a bit longer. What is strange is that they literally just end, pavement continues as as unnumbered roads, neither of which I don't believe is controlled by the state, further still, if they were state maintained, IL-155 could easily be absorbed by a much longer 156.

There also these:

IL-142 ends in Equality, a short distance south of IL-13.
IL-178 ends in Lowell, and becomes a county route.
IL-70 ends in Durand, and also becomes a county route.
IL-135 ends just past Alexis, east of US-67.
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roadman65

PA 114 eastern terminus thanks to US 111's decommissioning.
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US71

Arkansas has quite a few state routes that end and become county roads. There's a section of AR 264 north of Springdale that dumps you in Beaver Lake.
AR 7 ends at a state park in Diamond City
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cappicard

Many of Kansas' state highways are like that.

K-247: 3rd St in Ellis just south of I-70
K-264: The entrance of Larned State Hospital
Former K-257: City limits of Gorham (western Kansas between Hays and Russell)
K-114: City limits of Ogden
K-4: Western terminus is in the middle of nowhere at US-83 just north of Scott City.

Just to name a few.

cappicard

Quote from: US71 on October 22, 2015, 03:09:24 PM
Arkansas has quite a few state routes that end and become county roads. There's a section of AR 264 north of Springdale that dumps you in Beaver Lake.
AR 7 ends at a state park in Diamond City
I think AR-23 is like that north and south of Eureka Springs.

bzakharin

Quote from: Alps on October 21, 2015, 08:47:16 PM
Not random: NJ 23 (Bloomfield Ave. was once NJ 9), NJ 27 (once ended at 21 before being cut off at Broad Street)
NJ 27 still ends at NJ 21 at least according to http://www.state.nj.us/transportation/refdata/sldiag/00000027__-.pdf

US71

Quote from: cappicard on October 22, 2015, 03:13:41 PM
Quote from: US71 on October 22, 2015, 03:09:24 PM
Arkansas has quite a few state routes that end and become county roads. There's a section of AR 264 north of Springdale that dumps you in Beaver Lake.
AR 7 ends at a state park in Diamond City
I think AR-23 is like that north and south of Eureka Springs.

23 north ends at the Missouri State Line (Route P)
23 south ends at US 71 near Elm Park
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noelbotevera

I-495 in NYC has a messy ending. At the Midtown Tunnel, signage stops, and you get nothing until you cross into New Jersey (yet another strange end) on NJ 495. The BGSes at the beginning of I-495 call the Queens-Midtown Tunnel a part of it too.

Another weird end is I-76 east, at the NJ side of the Walt Whitman Bridge. You're suddenly dumped off the Walt Whitman into Camden, then thrown with an unfair split (1 lane to I-295, the rest of the 4 lanes of the 5 lane freeway onto NJ 42).

The ACE has a strange end at BOTH ends. You seemingly just merge onto NJ 42, while at the east end, you're blocks from the Boardwalk. Just extend it another block, please?

PA 163 - I've mentioned it before - at the west end, you're a good 100 or so feet from the MD line onto a...2 lane road? It just went from 4 lane divided to 2? That's actually MD 63, Williamsport Pike, pretty much I-81's 2nd alt route to Hagerstown.
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DandyDan

Many of Nebraska's spur routes, or at least the ones I've been on, end right at the edge of town, and often where there is no cross street present.  I don't know if it's really random, but it sure feels like it driving it.
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