Decommissioning US Highways

[silverback1065]

why was us 460 decommissioned outside of kentucky?

[Max Rockatansky]

why was us 460 decommissioned outside of kentucky?

I-64

[dvferyance]

why was us 460 decommissioned outside of kentucky?

What are you talking about? It still runs through Virginia and a little bit of West Virginia.

[silverback1065]

why was us 460 decommissioned outside of kentucky?

What are you talking about? It still runs through Virginia and a little bit of West Virginia.

It used to go all the way to st Louis

[cappicard]

I wonder if there are children routes that don't intersect their parents, but used to.  I don't mean the oddballs 400, 412, 425.

I don't think 281 has ever intersected its parent though.


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[jwolfer]

I wonder if there are sibling routes that don't intersect their parents, but used to.  I don't mean the oddballs 400, 412, 425.

I don't think 281 has ever intersected its parent though.


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There are some.. i don't think 206 intersects with 6.

199 still exists but parent does not exist any more

666 was like that too, but Satans highway is no more

[cappicard]

666 was renumbered as 491 in 2003.


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[cappicard]

I know 166 is only the only sizable child left of 66. 166 goes from Medicine Lodge, Kansas to I-44.

It seems US-266 functions mainly as a business loop for I-40. It's only 43 miles long.


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[Mapmikey]

I wonder if there are children routes that don't intersect their parents, but used to.  I don't mean the oddballs 400, 412, 425.

I don't think 281 has ever intersected its parent though.


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Here are a few off the top of my head...
191
212(?)
222
310
311
521
641

[cappicard]

Abit of a tangent, how about those routes that share the same alignment as their parents at one point or another?

169 and 69 do that for very short stints throughout the KC metro area.



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[Max Rockatansky]

I wonder if there are children routes that don't intersect their parents, but used to.  I don't mean the oddballs 400, 412, 425.

I don't think 281 has ever intersected its parent though.


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Here are a few off the top of my head...
191
212(?)
222
310
311
521
641

212 doesn't connect to US 12 anymore but it's just barely and roughly in the same corridor.

[Quillz]

I wonder if there are children routes that don't intersect their parents, but used to.  I don't mean the oddballs 400, 412, 425.

I don't think 281 has ever intersected its parent though.


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US-395 has never touched US-95, only US-195. This has been the case even when it was first created, long before it was extended south to San Diego.

EDIT: Oh, I misread your post. Uh... I guess US-199 would qualify.

[cappicard]

How about Bypasses? 

281 Bypass in Great Bend, Kansas has never been an official bypass. AFAIK, there's never been an application to AASTHO
for it.

It's nothing more than a city street labelled as such.


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[froggie]

212(?)

212 intersected its parent until 1983.

[hbelkins]

US 219 does not intersect US 19. It used to, however. But it does intersect US 119.

US 60 and US 460 have a one-block wrong-way concurrency in downtown Mt. Sterling, Ky.

[Avalanchez71]

why was us 460 decommissioned outside of kentucky?

I think I know the back story about this in Indiana.  US 460 ran on a curvy and hilly facility through southern Indiana.  The state perferred that through traffic be routed onto I-64 even though it ran well north of Evansville.  I think that renumbering it to a state route helped to move those off the roadway.

Illinois was probably happy to download the road to the various counties.

[hotdogPi]

Illinois was probably happy to download the road to the various counties.

And yet nobody remembers the only physical object to be downloaded...

[kkt]

I still think California was probably right to decommission all of its in-state US routes.

What is a US route?  It doesn't mean anything, they could be anything from interstate quality to a 1-lane path.  They might have bridges that'll hold your truck, or they might not.  They can meander all over the place.

California's visibility studies showed white on green markers to be more visible than black on white.  That's important in a state with many routes subject to snowstorms or fog.

Anytime a state wants to do the smallest reroute on a US route they have to seek approval.

The US routes' navigational purpose has been replaced by Interstates, and now also GPS.

Maybe the Interstates should have continued to use the US route numbers, but that was decided a long time ago (and again, the interstates numbers actually mean something about how the road is built).

[Avalanchez71]

California could post the US shields like Florida did with US 27 and US 192 in green.

[texaskdog]

I don't think 281 has ever intersected its parent though.


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San Antonio?

[Max Rockatansky]

I still think California was probably right to decommission all of its in-state US routes.

What is a US route?  It doesn't mean anything, they could be anything from interstate quality to a 1-lane path.  They might have bridges that'll hold your truck, or they might not.  They can meander all over the place.

California's visibility studies showed white on green markers to be more visible than black on white.  That's important in a state with many routes subject to snowstorms or fog.

Anytime a state wants to do the smallest reroute on a US route they have to seek approval.

The US routes' navigational purpose has been replaced by Interstates, and now also GPS.

Maybe the Interstates should have continued to use the US route numbers, but that was decided a long time ago (and again, the interstates numbers actually mean something about how the road is built).

I'm actually surprised that they didn't go with something like keeping the U.S. route number.  It probably had to do with route continuity since something like US 66 was replaced by several Interstates.  It would be interesting to see something like how Mexico does things with the D routes.  Maybe a red, white and blue US Route shield could have been used to designate Interstate quality sections?

Regardless, personally I think that the old intrastate US Route that might have been viable keeping was 299 which was pushing 300 miles even before it was converted to a state route.  That connects some major corridors in some remote mountains with US 101, I-5 and U.S. 395.

[Max Rockatansky]

California could post the US shields like Florida did with US 27 and US 192 in green.

If anything modern reflective vinyl really has usurped the need for green spades.  It would be pretty cool if Caltrans adopted a white design that had some flair to it similar to the originals.

[Revive 755]

why was us 460 decommissioned outside of kentucky?

I think I know the back story about this in Indiana.  US 460 ran on a curvy and hilly facility through southern Indiana.  The state perferred that through traffic be routed onto I-64 even though it ran well north of Evansville.  I think that renumbering it to a state route helped to move those off the roadway.

Illinois was probably happy to download the road to the various counties.

Except all of US 460's routing through Illinois stayed marked as IL 15, IL 142, and IL 14.

[Avalanchez71]

I should have reviewed a map.  I just could not recall a state road system along that routing.  There is one along I-57.

[cappicard]

California could post the US shields like Florida did with US 27 and US 192 in green.

Kansas used to have those white-on-green US shields.  I remember the green US-56 shields in Great Bend growing up.


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