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Author Topic: February 2018 Headlines About California Highways  (Read 891 times)

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February 2018 Headlines About California Highways
« on: March 01, 2018, 02:17:47 PM »

It's been a busy busy month, but here are the headlines: https://cahighways.org/wordpress/?p=13976

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Re: February 2018 Headlines About California Highways
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2018, 04:44:59 PM »

The bit about Decoto Road in Fremont is interesting because signed Route 84 between I-880 and Route 238 has always gone along Thornton and Mowry Avenues, while only a very small part of the Decoto Road corridor east to Fremont Boulevard/old Route 17 would have been incorporated into the (now-canceled?) realignment passing north of Quarry Lakes towards Route 238. 
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Re: February 2018 Headlines About California Highways
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2018, 04:55:05 PM »

It's been a busy busy month, but here are the headlines: https://cahighways.org/wordpress/?p=13976

Ready, Set, Discuss.

Looks like someone types faster than me; but here's some details re CA 84:  The portion of CA 84 in Fremont that's being considered for relinquishment does not use Decoto Road (that's part of a long-postponed realignment plan); it extends east from I-880 on Thornton Ave. to Fremont Blvd., south on Fremont to Peralta Ave., east on Peralta to East Mowry Ave., and east on Mowry to CA 238/Mission Blvd.  Fremont is trying to redevelop their "old town", which contains the CA 84 alignment, so they're asking for the relinquishment for somewhat more latitude regarding street configuration.  No word if they're planning to maintain 84 continuation signage.
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Re: February 2018 Headlines About California Highways
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2018, 06:37:29 PM »

It's been a busy busy month, but here are the headlines: https://cahighways.org/wordpress/?p=13976

Ready, Set, Discuss.

Looks like someone types faster than me; but here's some details re CA 84:  The portion of CA 84 in Fremont that's being considered for relinquishment does not use Decoto Road (that's part of a long-postponed realignment plan); it extends east from I-880 on Thornton Ave. to Fremont Blvd., south on Fremont to Peralta Ave., east on Peralta to East Mowry Ave., and east on Mowry to CA 238/Mission Blvd.  Fremont is trying to redevelop their "old town", which contains the CA 84 alignment, so they're asking for the relinquishment for somewhat more latitude regarding street configuration.  No word if they're planning to maintain 84 continuation signage.

That makes a TON more sense now! Thanks for the clarification.

I feel like the simplest way to just do a reroute is to sign Decoto and Alvarado-Niles as Route 84, though I get why the new-terrain realignment has been planned for a while as that would be a tad bit more direct.
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Re: February 2018 Headlines About California Highways
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2018, 09:40:08 PM »

Interesting that the one article referred to all of US 101 as the El Camino Real...  :rolleyes:

Interestingly the realignment of 138 east of Cajon Pass is going to isolate an old portion of the National Trails Highway which uses part of the current highway.  I might have a chance run-in with the new alignment some time in April if plans hold true.

The immigrant crossing signs were tacky at best and shouldn't have gone up in the first place.  All they ended up being was the butt of jokes and overpriced eBay price gouge fodder.

Nice to see the Ridge Route getting a new website.  Its a travesty that Angeles National Forest has so little interest in preserving the route.



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Re: February 2018 Headlines About California Highways
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2018, 12:46:28 AM »

It appears the backlash against new freeways and expansions are in overdrive mode. Look at how many articles alone were anti-710 expansion.
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Re: February 2018 Headlines About California Highways
« Reply #6 on: March 03, 2018, 11:35:37 PM »

It appears the backlash against new freeways and expansions are in overdrive mode. Look at how many articles alone were anti-710 expansion.

The number of opinion pieces (rather than news stories) linked this month seems unusually high.  That might explain the seeming backlash.  The LA Times hasnít been a fan of freeways since Times Mirror group sold the paper, and George Skelton is about as lefty as they come.
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Re: February 2018 Headlines About California Highways
« Reply #7 on: March 04, 2018, 01:25:13 PM »

Interestingly the realignment of 138 east of Cajon Pass is going to isolate an old portion of the National Trails Highway which uses part of the current highway.  I might have a chance run-in with the new alignment some time in April if plans hold true.
When I lived in Hesperia, 138, along with Summit Valley Road,  was my "backdoor" for getting from my home to "over the hill (meaning down in the Inland Empire)", particularly when I-15 was jammed.  While it was certainly narrow, windy, and substandard (as well as prone to flash floods), once one got used to it, it wasn't horrible.  I'll be going down for a visit next fall; probably will check out the new alignment when I'm down there.  One possible downside -- more efficient access from I-15 might just open more of the territory north of 138 to housing development (the national forest's northern boundary traces 138 itself), particularly in the areas part of the city of Hesperia.   
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