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Author Topic: US routes that end concurrent with other US routes: why do they exist?  (Read 3057 times)

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Re: US routes that end concurrent with other US routes: why do they exist?
« Reply #50 on: April 08, 2018, 08:16:04 PM »

In contrast: US 65 used to be cosigned with US 84 from Clayton, LA to the US 61 junction in Natchez, MS. US 98 terminates on the MS River bridge at the MS state line. So in MS, you had a US 65/84/98 concurrency between US 61 and the river. IMO, this was a wonderful way to point motorists (in MS) in the right direction to major highways. So what does DOTD do? They truncate 65 to Clayton and extend US 425 from Bastrop down to the river, and MSDOT obliges by extending 425 from the river to US 61. A more important US highway was truncated and ignored so that a much less important highway (which, by the way, 425's northern terminus is just south of Pine Bluff, AR at US 65!!!) could be brought in, running concurrent with US 84. What I am saying is...DOTD keeps missing the mark on trailblazing major routes.

US 65 used to extend even further than Natchez, all the way to New Orleans, duplexed with US 61.

US 98 was truncated to US 84 in Bude a few years ago.

I agree about the US 63 fiasco and the US 425 fiasco. The highway from El Dorado to Hazen deserves to be a US highway, but there is no real practical number for it without it being a single state route. One solution that works a lot better than US 63 ending at I-20 is for it to follow LA 9 from Junction City to at least Homer, if not all the way to US 71 in Campti. It could even follow US 71, LA 486 and LA 6 to end at I-49 west of Natchitoches. If you want to get even more ridiculous, have it follow LA 117 to Leesville, US 171 to DeRidder and LA 27 to at least I-10 at Sulphur. You could also extend it to LA 82 at Holly Beach, which would eliminate the U shaped LA 27.

US 425 should still end at US 65 or at least US 84. US 65 should go at least to US 84, if not all the way to US 61.

And US 425's northern terminus is the big I-530/US 63/US 65/US 79/US 65B/US 425/AR 190 super interchange.
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Re: US routes that end concurrent with other US routes: why do they exist?
« Reply #51 on: April 08, 2018, 09:05:55 PM »


And US 425's northern terminus is the big I-530/US 63/US 65/US 79/US 65B/US 425/AR 190 super interchange.


ARDOT extended US 425 from the Citgo truck stop (AR 81 to the paper mill) to the south end of I-530 et al? It has been several years since I was there, so I had no idea it was extended. When did that happen?
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Re: US routes that end concurrent with other US routes: why do they exist?
« Reply #52 on: April 08, 2018, 09:06:42 PM »

*US 169 ends at Memorial Drive in Tulsa triplexed with US 64 and OK 364/Creek Turnpike.

*US 266 ends at US 64 duplexed with OK 2. OK 2 used to go further north, following US 64 to Muskogee, US 69 to Vinita, today's OK 2 to Welch and US 59 to the Kansas border. OK 2 also used to follow US 271 all the way to the Texas line.

*The aforementioned US 62/277 duplex. US 277 was there before US 62 was commissioned in Oklahoma, and they truncated it at I-44 instead of at US 62. The only independent segment of US 277 in Oklahoma is from west of Elgin to just west of Ninnekah.

*OK 99 is duplexed with US 377 throughout US 377's entire length in Oklahoma, including the illegitimate section north of Madill.

*US 177 is duplexed with OK 199 at its end at Madill. OK 199 continues to the east. US 177 from Dickson to Madill is a former alignment of US 70 and US 177 was extended east to end at the new US 70.

*OK 33 ends at Main and Dewey in downtown Sapulpa duplexed with OK 66. OK 97 ends at that junction and Alternate US 75's signed end is at the same intersection as well (Alt US 75 officially follows OK 66 to at least as far north as I-44 and possibly all the way to the southern I-244/US 75 split in Red Fork.) OK 33 used to end in West Siloam Springs and when it was truncated, it was truncated to Main and Dewey for some unknown reason.

*OK 15 meets OK 74 west of Billings and follows 74 south to US 64/412 where it ends and 74 continues south. The reason is because OK 15 used to follow US 64 to Enid, US 412 to Woodward and today's OK 15 to the Texas line (OK 15 has two segments, as does OK 2.)

*Until around 1985, OK 7 followed OK 3 from Atoka to Broken Bow, where it ended at US 70 and US 259. OK 3 did and still does continue along US 70/259 to Idabel, where it splits and heads east to the Arkansas border.

*West of Okarche, OK 3 is duplexed with many different highways: US 81, OK 33, US 270, US 281, OK 51, US 60, US 183, OK 34, (former OK 15), OK 136, US 54, US 64, US 56, US 287 and US 385.

*OK 51 follows US 270 from Hucmac to Seiling, then follows US 60 all the way to the Texas line.

There are probably others in the Sooner State that I missed.

Outside of Oklahoma, US 56 and 412 end together at I-25 in New Mexico.
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Re: US routes that end concurrent with other US routes: why do they exist?
« Reply #53 on: April 08, 2018, 09:49:25 PM »

ARDOT extended US 425 from the Citgo truck stop (AR 81 to the paper mill) to the south end of I-530 et al? It has been several years since I was there, so I had no idea it was extended. When did that happen?

July 11, 2001

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WHEREAS, U. S. Highway Route 425 serves a major travel
corridor between Pine Bluff, Arkansas and Bastrop, Louisiana; and

WHEREAS, the numbering of this route presently begins at
its junction with U. S. Highway Route 65 east of Pine Bluff; and

WHEREAS, to enhance identity of the route, a logical
beginning point would be Interstate Route 530 in Pine Bluff.

NOW THEREFORE, the Director is authorized to petition the
AASHTO Route Numbering Committee to extend the U. S. Route 425
designation over U. S. Route 65 to the junction of I-530 in Pine Bluff as
shown on the attached sketch.
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