Which bypass saves the most time?

Started by Roadgeekteen, December 30, 2018, 09:59:07 PM

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Similar to my thread about bypasses that take longer, which bypass route saves the most time from the route it bypasses?
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I-610 in New Orleans, especially when the Claiborne elevated portion of I-10 is taken down


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Is US-301 still considered a good bypass route to take around Baltimore and DC? I know that Delaware Route 896 to US-301 all the way to Richmond, Virginia almost totally bypasses Baltimore and DC so I'd think that'd almost be a better route than I-95.

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US-23 (bypassing I-75) between Flint MI and Toledo OH.

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I-295 northeast quadrant between I-64 east and I-95 north.
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Quote from: Flint1979 on December 30, 2018, 11:35:39 PM
Is US-301 still considered a good bypass route to take around Baltimore and DC? I know that Delaware Route 896 to US-301 all the way to Richmond, Virginia almost totally bypasses Baltimore and DC so I'd think that'd almost be a better route than I-95.

Lots of traffic lights in the communities in MD on 301 south of US 50, especially Waldorf. That makes US 301 usually a lousy bypass around DC, not that I-95 is a great option either.

US 301 often works better as a Baltimore bypass, depending on traffic across the Chesapeake heading to or from the beaches. The new toll US 301 opening soon (probably in the next few days) in Delaware should make for smoother, though more expensive, travel.
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Quote from: oscar on December 31, 2018, 12:04:29 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on December 30, 2018, 11:35:39 PM
Is US-301 still considered a good bypass route to take around Baltimore and DC? I know that Delaware Route 896 to US-301 all the way to Richmond, Virginia almost totally bypasses Baltimore and DC so I'd think that'd almost be a better route than I-95.

Lots of traffic lights in the communities in MD on 301 south of US 50, especially Waldorf. That makes US 301 usually a lousy bypass around DC, not that I-95 is a great option either.

US 301 often works better as a Baltimore bypass, depending on traffic across the Chesapeake heading to or from the beaches.
That's what I was seeing. The extra milage on I-97 vs. taking SR-3 through Crofton I know saved a few minutes because of the lights. That merge with SR-5 at Brandywine seems like a bottleneck all the time too. I took the route a long time ago about 15 years ago I want to say and just wondered if it still made sense to use it. I liked the route in Delaware and eastern Maryland.

Reason I was wondering is because I have to take a car with a trailer on it from Allentown, PA to Orlando, FL next week and really would like to avoid Philly, Baltimore and DC if I can.

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Quote from: Flint1979 on December 31, 2018, 12:19:30 AM
Reason I was wondering is because I have to take a car with a trailer on it from Allentown, PA to Orlando, FL next week and really would like to avoid Philly, Baltimore and DC if I can.

When moving from Tampa to Philadelphia a couple of years ago in a 26-foot box truck with my car towed behind on a trailer, I took I-95 → I-26 → I-77 → I-81. Though more mileage, it wasn't a great deal more time, and I found it much less stressful and more truck-friendly than the I-95 alternative.

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Quote from: briantroutman on December 31, 2018, 12:41:01 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on December 31, 2018, 12:19:30 AM
Reason I was wondering is because I have to take a car with a trailer on it from Allentown, PA to Orlando, FL next week and really would like to avoid Philly, Baltimore and DC if I can.

When moving from Tampa to Philadelphia a couple of years ago in a 26-foot box truck with my car towed behind on a trailer, I took I-95 → I-26 → I-77 → I-81. Though more mileage, it wasn't a great deal more time, and I found it much less stressful and more truck-friendly than the I-95 alternative.
That was basically my plan was to avoid I-95 until at least Richmond. I'm wondering how (leaving from Allentown) taking I-78 to I-81 to I-77 to I-26 to I-95 to I-4 would be. I know that I would have to travel through Charlotte taking that route but I think traveling through Charlotte is going to be less stressful than traveling through the Philly-Baltimore-DC combo.

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Quote from: Flint1979 on December 31, 2018, 12:47:27 AM
I would have to travel through Charlotte taking that route but I think traveling through Charlotte is going to be less stressful than traveling through the Philly-Baltimore-DC combo.

As I recall, I drove through Charlotte in the mid-evening hours (around 7-8 p.m.) and it was no big deal. Overall, I'm happy to have taken that route.

Flint1979

Quote from: briantroutman on December 31, 2018, 01:07:12 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on December 31, 2018, 12:47:27 AM
I would have to travel through Charlotte taking that route but I think traveling through Charlotte is going to be less stressful than traveling through the Philly-Baltimore-DC combo.

As I recall, I drove through Charlotte in the mid-evening hours (around 7-8 p.m.) and it was no big deal. Overall, I'm happy to have taken that route.
I've been through Charlotte before but can't really recall how the traffic patterns are there. I think around the time you mentioned would be an alright time to hit Charlotte.

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If you're at all concerned about Charlotte, use I-485 around the west side of the city unless you're after a clinch of I-77. There's a lot of messy HO/T lane construction near the interchange of I-77 and I-85 that may slow things down (it did yesterday morning) and may make it more difficult to follow your lane, etc., due to lane shifts. If you're towing a trailer, that work zone could make life miserable.

I suggest the western side of I-485 because it's a much shorter distance than the eastern side. I used it around the northwestern quadrant from I-85 back to I-85 heading north a few years ago and it was a good road, fairly empty and an easy drive. I'd suggest checking the NBA schedule to see whether the Hornets would be playing when you pass through if you plan on using I-77. The Panthers are done until next season.

This weekend, I-26 and I-77 were MUCH more pleasant than I-95. The latter had a lot of traffic and a lot of bad behavior (left-lane hogs, people tailgating in both lanes, aggressive cut-offs, etc.). It was especially annoying at night.
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New Jersey Turnpike around Philadelphia as opposed to I-95 thru.
I-295 around Richmond as opposed to I-64 / I-95 thru.
I-664 around Norfolk as opposed to I-64 thru (really only beneficial for traffic going west of the Elizabeth River and good for keeping Outer Banks traffic off of I-64)
I-85 around Greensboro as opposed to I-85 Business thru.
I-40 around Winston-Salem as opposed to I-40 Business thru.
Florida's Turnpike as opposed to I-95 or I-75.
I-76 around Pittsburgh as opposed to I-376 / I-279 thru (does this even count??)

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Quote from: sprjus4 on January 03, 2019, 07:31:06 AM
New Jersey Turnpike around Philadelphia as opposed to I-95 thru.
I-295 around Richmond as opposed to I-64 / I-95 thru.
I-664 around Norfolk as opposed to I-64 thru (really only beneficial for traffic going west of the Elizabeth River and good for keeping Outer Banks traffic off of I-64)
I-85 around Greensboro as opposed to I-85 Business thru.
I-40 around Winston-Salem as opposed to I-40 Business thru.
Florida's Turnpike as opposed to I-95 or I-75.
I-76 around Pittsburgh as opposed to I-376 / I-279 thru (does this even count??)
The I-76 one isn't really a bypass, I-376 and I-279 is more like the bypass into Pittsburgh.
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 03, 2019, 09:10:26 AM
Quote from: sprjus4 on January 03, 2019, 07:31:06 AM
New Jersey Turnpike around Philadelphia as opposed to I-95 thru.
I-295 around Richmond as opposed to I-64 / I-95 thru.
I-664 around Norfolk as opposed to I-64 thru (really only beneficial for traffic going west of the Elizabeth River and good for keeping Outer Banks traffic off of I-64)
I-85 around Greensboro as opposed to I-85 Business thru.
I-40 around Winston-Salem as opposed to I-40 Business thru.
Florida's Turnpike as opposed to I-95 or I-75.
I-76 around Pittsburgh as opposed to I-376 / I-279 thru (does this even count??)
The I-76 one isn't really a bypass, I-376 and I-279 is more like the bypass into Pittsburgh.
You mean, "more like the route into Pittsburgh?" I-76 does bypass Pittsburgh although that isn't what it's intended to do.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: kphoger on January 03, 2019, 01:04:53 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 03, 2019, 09:10:26 AM
bypass into

This seems like a contradiction in terms.
Yeah, I don't know what term to use. "Business Loop" sounds wrong.
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Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 03, 2019, 01:45:12 PM
Quote from: kphoger on January 03, 2019, 01:04:53 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 03, 2019, 09:10:26 AM
bypass into
This seems like a contradiction in terms.
Yeah, I don't know what term to use. "Business Loop" sounds wrong.

I guess you could also consider I-490 a "bypass into" Rochester. It bypasses 30 miles of complete snoozefest on the Thruway, anyways.  :-D

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The bypass around Kokomo, Indiana saves you 6 minutes (11 minutes on bypass) compared to the old routing of US 31 (17 minutes on old route)...

sprjus4

Quote from: Flint1979 on January 03, 2019, 01:35:25 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 03, 2019, 09:10:26 AM
Quote from: sprjus4 on January 03, 2019, 07:31:06 AM
New Jersey Turnpike around Philadelphia as opposed to I-95 thru.
I-295 around Richmond as opposed to I-64 / I-95 thru.
I-664 around Norfolk as opposed to I-64 thru (really only beneficial for traffic going west of the Elizabeth River and good for keeping Outer Banks traffic off of I-64)
I-85 around Greensboro as opposed to I-85 Business thru.
I-40 around Winston-Salem as opposed to I-40 Business thru.
Florida's Turnpike as opposed to I-95 or I-75.
I-76 around Pittsburgh as opposed to I-376 / I-279 thru (does this even count??)
The I-76 one isn't really a bypass, I-376 and I-279 is more like the bypass into Pittsburgh.
You mean, "more like the route into Pittsburgh?" I-76 does bypass Pittsburgh although that isn't what it's intended to do.
Not the intent of the I-76, but it does act as one. I-376 & I-279 can work to go through (I've driven it before - big mistake), but thru-traffic obviously stays on the turnpike (which sort of bypasses it, yet really is just a straight shot). Kind of how I-10 goes through New Orleans and I-12 takes the direct path.

Flint1979

Quote from: sprjus4 on January 03, 2019, 05:10:04 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on January 03, 2019, 01:35:25 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 03, 2019, 09:10:26 AM
Quote from: sprjus4 on January 03, 2019, 07:31:06 AM
New Jersey Turnpike around Philadelphia as opposed to I-95 thru.
I-295 around Richmond as opposed to I-64 / I-95 thru.
I-664 around Norfolk as opposed to I-64 thru (really only beneficial for traffic going west of the Elizabeth River and good for keeping Outer Banks traffic off of I-64)
I-85 around Greensboro as opposed to I-85 Business thru.
I-40 around Winston-Salem as opposed to I-40 Business thru.
Florida's Turnpike as opposed to I-95 or I-75.
I-76 around Pittsburgh as opposed to I-376 / I-279 thru (does this even count??)
The I-76 one isn't really a bypass, I-376 and I-279 is more like the bypass into Pittsburgh.
You mean, "more like the route into Pittsburgh?" I-76 does bypass Pittsburgh although that isn't what it's intended to do.
Not the intent of the I-76, but it does act as one. I-376 & I-279 can work to go through (I've driven it before - big mistake), but thru-traffic obviously stays on the turnpike (which sort of bypasses it, yet really is just a straight shot). Kind of how I-10 goes through New Orleans and I-12 takes the direct path.
I-76 is on the Turnpike so I'm not sure if we can even say it acts as one. The Turnpike also bypasses Philly.

sprjus4

Quote from: Flint1979 on January 03, 2019, 05:29:39 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on January 03, 2019, 05:10:04 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on January 03, 2019, 01:35:25 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 03, 2019, 09:10:26 AM
Quote from: sprjus4 on January 03, 2019, 07:31:06 AM
New Jersey Turnpike around Philadelphia as opposed to I-95 thru.
I-295 around Richmond as opposed to I-64 / I-95 thru.
I-664 around Norfolk as opposed to I-64 thru (really only beneficial for traffic going west of the Elizabeth River and good for keeping Outer Banks traffic off of I-64)
I-85 around Greensboro as opposed to I-85 Business thru.
I-40 around Winston-Salem as opposed to I-40 Business thru.
Florida's Turnpike as opposed to I-95 or I-75.
I-76 around Pittsburgh as opposed to I-376 / I-279 thru (does this even count??)
The I-76 one isn't really a bypass, I-376 and I-279 is more like the bypass into Pittsburgh.
You mean, "more like the route into Pittsburgh?" I-76 does bypass Pittsburgh although that isn't what it's intended to do.
Not the intent of the I-76, but it does act as one. I-376 & I-279 can work to go through (I've driven it before - big mistake), but thru-traffic obviously stays on the turnpike (which sort of bypasses it, yet really is just a straight shot). Kind of how I-10 goes through New Orleans and I-12 takes the direct path.
I-76 is on the Turnpike so I'm not sure if we can even say it acts as one. The Turnpike also bypasses Philly.
Maybe not I-76 for that reason, but I'd say the New Jersey Turnpike bypassing Philadelphia is a "bypass". You have to exit I-95 which goes into Philadelphia then merge back with I-95 (which in reality merges into the turnpike, not the other way around).

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: sprjus4 on January 03, 2019, 05:54:06 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on January 03, 2019, 05:29:39 PM
Quote from: sprjus4 on January 03, 2019, 05:10:04 PM
Quote from: Flint1979 on January 03, 2019, 01:35:25 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on January 03, 2019, 09:10:26 AM
Quote from: sprjus4 on January 03, 2019, 07:31:06 AM
New Jersey Turnpike around Philadelphia as opposed to I-95 thru.
I-295 around Richmond as opposed to I-64 / I-95 thru.
I-664 around Norfolk as opposed to I-64 thru (really only beneficial for traffic going west of the Elizabeth River and good for keeping Outer Banks traffic off of I-64)
I-85 around Greensboro as opposed to I-85 Business thru.
I-40 around Winston-Salem as opposed to I-40 Business thru.
Florida's Turnpike as opposed to I-95 or I-75.
I-76 around Pittsburgh as opposed to I-376 / I-279 thru (does this even count??)
The I-76 one isn't really a bypass, I-376 and I-279 is more like the bypass into Pittsburgh.
You mean, "more like the route into Pittsburgh?" I-76 does bypass Pittsburgh although that isn't what it's intended to do.
Not the intent of the I-76, but it does act as one. I-376 & I-279 can work to go through (I've driven it before - big mistake), but thru-traffic obviously stays on the turnpike (which sort of bypasses it, yet really is just a straight shot). Kind of how I-10 goes through New Orleans and I-12 takes the direct path.
I-76 is on the Turnpike so I'm not sure if we can even say it acts as one. The Turnpike also bypasses Philly.
Maybe not I-76 for that reason, but I'd say the New Jersey Turnpike bypassing Philadelphia is a "bypass". You have to exit I-95 which goes into Philadelphia then merge back with I-95 (which in reality merges into the turnpike, not the other way around).
I thought that the turnpike was advertised as the through route?
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