U.S. Highways That Don't Parallel Any Interstates

Started by sprjus4, June 08, 2019, 06:13:54 PM

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MikieTimT

US-412 doesn't.  In fact, I don't think any of the US 400 series does.  Arguably, at least one segment of US-412 could eventually become an Interstate, but that would take some political and financial will that doesn't currently exist.


mgk920

Quote from: ilpt4u on June 12, 2019, 11:32:30 AM
Quote from: mgk920 on June 12, 2019, 11:25:53 AM
Except for a secton within the MStP metro area, nothing of what is left of US 10 parallels any interstate.

Mike
Looking quickly on Google Maps, US 10 roughly parallels I-94 between Fargo, ND and Osseo, WI - basically all the way across MN

More like 'common points via widely differing routes', differing enough that US 10 warrants four lanes divided in its own right across Minnesota.  I-94 is parallel to US 12 between Wisconsin Dells, WI and the MStP area and US 52 from MStP into North Dakota.  Yes, I-94 and I-90 did supplant US 10 west of Fargo, ND, though.

Mike

Konza

Main Line Interstates clinched:  2, 4, 5, 8, 10, 11, 12, 14, 16, 17, 19, 20, 22, 24, 25, 26, 27, 29, 30, 37, 39, 43, 44, 45, 55, 57, 59, 65, 68, 71, 72, 74 (IA-IL-IN-OH), 76 (CO-NE), 76 (OH-PA-NJ), 78, 80, 82, 86 (ID), 88 (IL), 94, 96

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zzcarp

Quote from: Konza on June 14, 2019, 01:30:33 AM
How about US Highways 24, 54, and 56?

US 56 may count as there is only a 17-mile overlap w/I-35 in Kansas City.

US 54 has a 54-mile overlap with I-40 in New Mexico.

US 24 parallels I-75 from Toledo to Detroit. I-70 runs adjacent to or on top of it from Limon, CO to Colby KS. It also parallels or follows I-70 from Lawrence, KS through Kansas City.
So many miles and so many roads

Eth

A few running through Georgia that I don't think have been mentioned yet: 123, 221, and 378.

Konza

Quote from: zzcarp on June 14, 2019, 02:09:54 AM
Quote from: Konza on June 14, 2019, 01:30:33 AM
How about US Highways 24, 54, and 56?

US 56 may count as there is only a 17-mile overlap w/I-35 in Kansas City.

US 54 has a 54-mile overlap with I-40 in New Mexico.

US 24 parallels I-75 from Toledo to Detroit. I-70 runs adjacent to or on top of it from Limon, CO to Colby KS. It also parallels or follows I-70 from Lawrence, KS through Kansas City.

The standard is 15 percent.  For US 54, that would be 180 miles, so according to the standard, it qualifies.  Plus in the segment you mention, I-40 is headed from Amarillo to Albuquerque.  Us 54 is headed from Wichita to El Paso.  The routes are crossing, albeit very gradually.

For US 24, the concurrency with I-70 is about 135 miles from Limon to Colby.  Rand McNally says it's 62 miles from Kansas City to Topeka.  It's 59 miles from Detroit to Toledo, although the US 24 concurrency is not that long as US 24 heads up Telegraph Road.  I-75 was actually concurrent with US 25 here before it was decommissioned.  That totals about 255 miles, and the standard here would be 231, so it doesn't qualify.  I would, however, also make the argument that the control cities for I-70 west of Topeka would be Topeka and Denver, while the control cities for US 24 would be Topeka and Colorado Springs.  There are three pretty much parallel US highways in western Kansas and eastern Colorado; 24, 36 , and 40.  I-70 could just as easily have followed one of the other two in this stretch, and does follow US 40 for most of it.

Speaking of US 36, it's 1414 miles long.  It's concurrent with I-70 for 37 miles in and east of Denver, and with I-72 for 133 miles from the Mississippi River to the west edge of Decatur.  That's less than 15% of the route.  That may change, of course, if I-72 is extended very far into Missouri.
Main Line Interstates clinched:  2, 4, 5, 8, 10, 11, 12, 14, 16, 17, 19, 20, 22, 24, 25, 26, 27, 29, 30, 37, 39, 43, 44, 45, 55, 57, 59, 65, 68, 71, 72, 74 (IA-IL-IN-OH), 76 (CO-NE), 76 (OH-PA-NJ), 78, 80, 82, 86 (ID), 88 (IL), 94, 96

ilpt4u

Quote from: Konza on June 14, 2019, 05:07:48 PM
Speaking of US 36, it's 1414 miles long.  It's concurrent with I-70 for 37 miles in and east of Denver, and with I-72 for 133 miles from the Mississippi River to the west edge of Decatur.  That's less than 15% of the route.  That may change, of course, if I-72 is extended very far into Missouri.
Not much more length, but US 36 is concurrent with I-465 (and everything else) around Indy, then parallels I-69 from 465 to somewhere around Pendleton-Anderson, before US 36 continues east & I-69 turns more northward

Kulerage

Surprised that US 83 hasn't been mentioned. Only about 3% of its entire nearly 2000 mile route is concurrent with interstates, and even then those occurrences are incidental and not a true parallel (i.e. US 58 and I-81).

US 89

Quote from: Kulerage on June 18, 2019, 06:41:47 PM
Surprised that US 83 hasn't been mentioned. Only about 3% of its entire nearly 2000 mile route is concurrent with interstates, and even then those occurrences are incidental and not a true parallel (i.e. US 58 and I-81).

Although it's only 48 miles long, the entire length of I-2 is concurrent with US 83 in south Texas, which might be enough to disqualify it for this thread.

sprjus4

Quote from: US 89 on June 18, 2019, 07:25:32 PM
Quote from: Kulerage on June 18, 2019, 06:41:47 PM
Surprised that US 83 hasn't been mentioned. Only about 3% of its entire nearly 2000 mile route is concurrent with interstates, and even then those occurrences are incidental and not a true parallel (i.e. US 58 and I-81).

Although it's only 48 miles long, the entire length of I-2 is concurrent with US 83 in south Texas, which might be enough to disqualify it for this thread.
That's a significant overlap, though when you consider US-83 is nearly 2,000 miles long, only about 3% parallel / concurrent with interstate highways, which is well within the 15% maximum prescribed for this thread.

wanderer2575

Quote from: US 89 on June 18, 2019, 07:25:32 PM
Quote from: Kulerage on June 18, 2019, 06:41:47 PM
Surprised that US 83 hasn't been mentioned. Only about 3% of its entire nearly 2000 mile route is concurrent with interstates, and even then those occurrences are incidental and not a true parallel (i.e. US 58 and I-81).

Although it's only 48 miles long, the entire length of I-2 is concurrent with US 83 in south Texas, which might be enough to disqualify it for this thread.

It qualifies, IMO.  I-2 is what doesn't qualify; it's a bulls*** Interstate.

sprjus4

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Quote from: wanderer2575 on June 18, 2019, 07:47:12 PM
I-2 is what doesn't qualify; it's a bulls*** Interstate.
Until I-69E is completed anyways, it is. Or I-2 is extended to Laredo connecting w/ I-35. I-2 works though, once connected to another interstate highway (that connects to the system, connecting to I-69E or I-69C doesn't qualify it)

I wondered how they even got that stretch signed to begin with. Did they take the fact in order to sign an interstate highway, it must connect to another interstate - then decide let's apply for all three of them at once so they'll connect to each other - essentially a loophole around the system?

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roadman65

#90
US 441 is one highway that goes where the interstates go, but only parallels I-75 for a short distance from Ocala to Lake City.  Otherwise its it own independent highway.  In Georgia it runs nowhere near any interstate, but I-75, I-95, and I-985 will get you from one end of the state to the other along it.

If anyone does use that road from end to end it most likely will be one of us just to say we clinched it.  Although, when I clinch it someday it will be most likely in pieces as I have no desire to follow it from the FL line to the NC line as I have done large segments of it already.

If I do a route lengthwise in the Peach State it will be most likely US 27 as that one is far from any freeway and would create the ultimate challenge of going from end to end on a surface road. 

Speaking of US 27, since it was truncated now pretty much of it is along no interstate.  Some may argue in Florida it has I-75, but really nowhere near it except near Miami where I-75 comes near for about 20 miles of it from Andytown to Hialeah.
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Verlanka

Quote from: roadman65 on June 18, 2019, 08:27:37 PM
I-75, I-95, and I-985 will get you from one end of the state to the other along it.

You mean I-85, right?

Flint1979

Quote from: zzcarp on June 14, 2019, 02:09:54 AM
Quote from: Konza on June 14, 2019, 01:30:33 AM
How about US Highways 24, 54, and 56?

US 56 may count as there is only a 17-mile overlap w/I-35 in Kansas City.

US 54 has a 54-mile overlap with I-40 in New Mexico.

US 24 parallels I-75 from Toledo to Detroit. I-70 runs adjacent to or on top of it from Limon, CO to Colby KS. It also parallels or follows I-70 from Lawrence, KS through Kansas City.
I think US-24 paralleling I-75 is just a coincident of where each highway is at that point. Long haul it doesn't as the two split and run different directions after Toledo. I always wondered why US-24 ran north and south, Michigan seems to love that kind of thing.

BrianP


JCinSummerfield

Quote from: Flint1979 on June 20, 2019, 12:56:08 PM
Quote from: zzcarp on June 14, 2019, 02:09:54 AM
Quote from: Konza on June 14, 2019, 01:30:33 AM
How about US Highways 24, 54, and 56?
I always wondered why US-24 ran north and south, Michigan seems to love that kind of thing.

Have you seen the direction of US-24 in Michigan?

JCinSummerfield

That last line is mine.  I screwed up the quote somehow.

Flint1979

I have US-24 clinched from Clarkston, MI to Fort Wayne, IN. It's just strange that it takes a north south route in Michigan. After Toledo it runs correctly.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: Flint1979 on June 21, 2019, 06:37:19 AM
I have US-24 clinched from Clarkston, MI to Fort Wayne, IN. It's just strange that it takes a north south route in Michigan. After Toledo it runs correctly.

It does the same at the west terminus in Colorado, geography doesn't help keep US 24 straight at either terminus. 

Flint1979

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on June 21, 2019, 11:57:25 AM
Quote from: Flint1979 on June 21, 2019, 06:37:19 AM
I have US-24 clinched from Clarkston, MI to Fort Wayne, IN. It's just strange that it takes a north south route in Michigan. After Toledo it runs correctly.
Lol so in reality it has two northern terminus.  For the most part I guess it does run right.

It does the same at the west terminus in Colorado, geography doesn't help keep US 24 straight at either terminus.

Mark68

Believe it or not, US 50 is concurrent with several interstates, but for less than 15% of its total length of 3017 miles!
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