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Author Topic: I-469/US 24 Ramp Construction  (Read 4569 times)

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Re: I-469/US 24 Ramp Construction
« Reply #50 on: January 14, 2020, 10:14:48 AM »

and I recall that on the Ohio Turnpike near Youngstown, the control city is New York City

That's actually on I-80 after it leaves the Turnpike. The Turnpike's eastbound control city in that area, as I-76, is Pittsburgh.

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Is there any idea whether the US 24 east exit from I-469 will get Toledo as a control city - or will it just stay empty?

Woodburn!  :D

Still on control cities, I noticed that on I-94W just before I-75 in Detroit, the control city is Chicago as well, quite early on its way through Ann Arbor, Jackson, Kalamazoo...
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Re: I-469/US 24 Ramp Construction
« Reply #51 on: February 12, 2020, 01:21:55 PM »

and I recall that on the Ohio Turnpike near Youngstown, the control city is New York City

That's actually on I-80 after it leaves the Turnpike. The Turnpike's eastbound control city in that area, as I-76, is Pittsburgh.

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Is there any idea whether the US 24 east exit from I-469 will get Toledo as a control city - or will it just stay empty?

Woodburn!  :D

Still on control cities, I noticed that on I-94W just before I-75 in Detroit, the control city is Chicago as well, quite early on its way through Ann Arbor, Jackson, Kalamazoo...

And one more, exiting the Indiana Toll Road to I-94 at Lake Station, IN, the control city for I-80 is "Des Moines".

Back on topic, another poster mentioned that the US24-I469 interchange was "looking like a cloverleaf". Has there been a change in design now that the farm on the NW corner is for sale?
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Re: I-469/US 24 Ramp Construction
« Reply #52 on: February 12, 2020, 01:28:34 PM »

and I recall that on the Ohio Turnpike near Youngstown, the control city is New York City

That's actually on I-80 after it leaves the Turnpike. The Turnpike's eastbound control city in that area, as I-76, is Pittsburgh.

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Is there any idea whether the US 24 east exit from I-469 will get Toledo as a control city - or will it just stay empty?

Woodburn!  :D

Still on control cities, I noticed that on I-94W just before I-75 in Detroit, the control city is Chicago as well, quite early on its way through Ann Arbor, Jackson, Kalamazoo...

And one more, exiting the Indiana Toll Road to I-94 at Lake Station, IN, the control city for I-80 is "Des Moines".

Back on topic, another poster mentioned that the US24-I469 interchange was "looking like a cloverleaf". Has there been a change in design now that the farm on the NW corner is for sale?

Yes, i think that house got knocked down.  Last time I was in the area I saw no house.
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Re: I-469/US 24 Ramp Construction
« Reply #53 on: February 12, 2020, 08:03:03 PM »

and I recall that on the Ohio Turnpike near Youngstown, the control city is New York City

That's actually on I-80 after it leaves the Turnpike. The Turnpike's eastbound control city in that area, as I-76, is Pittsburgh.

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Is there any idea whether the US 24 east exit from I-469 will get Toledo as a control city - or will it just stay empty?

Woodburn!  :D

Still on control cities, I noticed that on I-94W just before I-75 in Detroit, the control city is Chicago as well, quite early on its way through Ann Arbor, Jackson, Kalamazoo...

And one more, exiting the Indiana Toll Road to I-94 at Lake Station, IN, the control city for I-80 is "Des Moines".

Back on topic, another poster mentioned that the US24-I469 interchange was "looking like a cloverleaf". Has there been a change in design now that the farm on the NW corner is for sale?

I've noticed that generally more distant control cities are used at major interstate interchanges. E.g., the control cities out of St Louis point to Memphis and Chicago (I-55 and I-255), Indianapolis and Kansas City (I-70 and I-270), Louisville (I-64), and Tulsa (I-44). The only local city is Wentzville on WB I-64 and the interstate terminates there. Curiously, the BGS on NB I-270 at I-64 uses KC and Chicago for the I-270 traffic even though travelers to KC usually take I-64 to Wentzville before following I-70 to KC from that interchange.
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Re: I-469/US 24 Ramp Construction
« Reply #54 on: February 12, 2020, 09:52:36 PM »

There was a nice long STL Beltway Control City discussion over in Road Related Illustrations... https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9539.3500

Long story short, I-270 North/Inner on the West Side would probably be better served with a Control of Lambert STL Airport versus anything Long Distance

I-64 West at I-270 should use Minneapolis :cool: I donít see MoDOT getting on that bandwagon anytime soon, tho. But then again, if InDOT can use Des Moines in Northwestern Indiana for I-80 West...
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Re: I-469/US 24 Ramp Construction
« Reply #55 on: February 13, 2020, 07:37:08 AM »

There was a nice long STL Beltway Control City discussion over in Road Related Illustrations... https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9539.3500

Long story short, I-270 North/Inner on the West Side would probably be better served with a Control of Lambert STL Airport versus anything Long Distance

I-64 West at I-270 should use Minneapolis :cool: I donít see MoDOT getting on that bandwagon anytime soon, tho. But then again, if InDOT can use Des Moines in Northwestern Indiana for I-80 West...

Back when InDOT owned the Toll Road, they wanted people to stay on the Toll Road rather than exiting onto I-80/94 for Chicago area destinations, so using a far away place like Des Moines as the control city was part of that strategy.
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Re: I-469/US 24 Ramp Construction
« Reply #56 on: February 13, 2020, 11:47:19 PM »

There was a nice long STL Beltway Control City discussion over in Road Related Illustrations... https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9539.3500

Long story short, I-270 North/Inner on the West Side would probably be better served with a Control of Lambert STL Airport versus anything Long Distance

I-64 West at I-270 should use Minneapolis :cool: I donít see MoDOT getting on that bandwagon anytime soon, tho. But then again, if InDOT can use Des Moines in Northwestern Indiana for I-80 West...

Back when InDOT owned the Toll Road, they wanted people to stay on the Toll Road rather than exiting onto I-80/94 for Chicago area destinations, so using a far away place like Des Moines as the control city was part of that strategy.
Really?? they had plans for nice high speed ramp upgrade to exit on to I-80/94
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Re: I-469/US 24 Ramp Construction
« Reply #57 on: February 19, 2020, 08:54:20 PM »

and I recall that on the Ohio Turnpike near Youngstown, the control city is New York City

That's actually on I-80 after it leaves the Turnpike. The Turnpike's eastbound control city in that area, as I-76, is Pittsburgh.

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Is there any idea whether the US 24 east exit from I-469 will get Toledo as a control city - or will it just stay empty?

Woodburn!  :D

Still on control cities, I noticed that on I-94W just before I-75 in Detroit, the control city is Chicago as well, quite early on its way through Ann Arbor, Jackson, Kalamazoo...

And one more, exiting the Indiana Toll Road to I-94 at Lake Station, IN, the control city for I-80 is "Des Moines".

Back on topic, another poster mentioned that the US24-I469 interchange was "looking like a cloverleaf". Has there been a change in design now that the farm on the NW corner is for sale?

Yes, i think that house got knocked down.  Last time I was in the area I saw no house.

The house on the NE side has been knocked down. Not sure about NW side. Wasnít the plan incorporating a flyover tamp for WB24 to SB469 movement? I thought that was the reasoning for knocking down the house on the NE side.
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Re: I-469/US 24 Ramp Construction
« Reply #58 on: August 09, 2020, 10:33:07 AM »

Drove by a couple days ago:

- The loop ramp from NB I-469 to Rose Ave is closed and is being reconstructed with new concrete.

- The loop ramp from Rose Ave to NB I-469 has begun construction and appears to have been for some time. This will complete all movements to/from the northbound direction

- The flyover ramp from 24 has yet to begin construction, or at least I wasn't able to tell.

On a related note there is bridge work on I-469 at the bridges for US-24, IN-37, Wheelock Rd, and Maysville Rd, all of which frequently have cops stationed on site and have lane closures
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Re: I-469/US 24 Ramp Construction
« Reply #59 on: August 09, 2020, 10:51:26 AM »

There was a nice long STL Beltway Control City discussion over in Road Related Illustrations... https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9539.3500

Long story short, I-270 North/Inner on the West Side would probably be better served with a Control of Lambert STL Airport versus anything Long Distance

I-64 West at I-270 should use Minneapolis :cool: I donít see MoDOT getting on that bandwagon anytime soon, tho. But then again, if InDOT can use Des Moines in Northwestern Indiana for I-80 West...

Back when InDOT owned the Toll Road, they wanted people to stay on the Toll Road rather than exiting onto I-80/94 for Chicago area destinations, so using a far away place like Des Moines as the control city was part of that strategy.
Really?? they had plans for nice high speed ramp upgrade to exit on to I-80/94

Yeah, they had once some plans for a big upgrade of that location then I mentionned in another thread. http://web.archive.org/web/20021220081218/http://nwindianahwys.homestead.com/i80909451newint.html
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