Places Where Locals Refer to US/State Highways over Interstates.

Started by Some one, November 24, 2019, 09:22:16 PM

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LM117

In Wilson, NC where I-795 and US-264 overlap for a short stretch, US-264 reigns supreme. NCDOT apparently agrees since the overlap still uses US-264's mileposts and exit numbers after all these years. Of course, that will probably change once I-587 joins the club...I hope.
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ilpt4u

I cannot really think of any clear Illinois examples

Closest would be the 355/290/53 N-S Tollway/Freeway Corridor from New Lenox to Buffalo Grove being referred to as the 355/Rt 53 Combo or just 355 sometimes

72 and 39 have pretty much supplanted 36 and 51, respectively. Of course 55 literally supplanted 66

Could go Danville/Vermillion County, where IL 1 is probably the more common name for the N-S main drag, even including the multiplex with US 150

NWI_Irish96

I've never heard anybody in the Indy area refer to I-465 at 31/36/37/40/52/67
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FrCorySticha

I think US 91 and US 10 have pretty much been forgotten in Montana. Pretty much everyone I've spoken to refers to "The Interstate" and sometimes the number ("Interstate 15", "Interstate 90", or "Interstate 94"). Any US or state highway that multiplexes with an Interstate is pretty much forgotten as well.

roadfro

Quote from: bing101 on November 25, 2019, 09:25:58 PM
Quote from: roadfro on November 25, 2019, 05:20:50 PM
I-515/US 93/US 95 in Las Vegas & Henderson, NV is often referred to as just US 95.

I-580/US 395 in Reno, NV is often referred to as just US 395.

While traffic reporters and local commercials in both areas now tend to refer to the interstate spur on the concurrent sections and the US route on the solo sections, long-time residents in both locations often use just refer to the US route out of habit.
In both cases, the freeway crosses the interstate parent, with the interstate spur ending and the US highway continuing seamlessly. Also, the interstate spur was signed much later than the freeway's initial construction in both cases (circa 1994-95 for I-515 and circa 2012 for I-580).
How about US-93 for the I-11 section from Las Vegas to the Arizona/Nevada State line. I bet the new I-11 freeway is still referred to as US-93 in some areas due to how new the road designation is though.

I would say that it may still be referred to as US 93 when you get past Boulder City headed into Arizona, but the new bypass section is referred to as I-11. The section of I-11 within the Las Vegas Valley that used to be I-515 is still often referred to as US 95. US 93 is not referred to within the Las Vegas Valley, since it completely overlaps with either US 95 or I-15.
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bassoon1986

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Quote from: dlsterner on November 24, 2019, 11:02:45 PM
Quote from: Some one on November 24, 2019, 09:22:16 PM
Is there a concurrency (interstate and US/state highway) you know where locals call it the secondary route over the primary route? For example, in Houston, even though portions of 59 are now co-signed with 69, most Houstonians still refer to it as 59.

Probably because the Interstate designation isn't posted anywhere, but I-595 between Washington D.C. and Annapolis is known as US 50 or US 50/301.

Yes, I bet any of the "hidden"  designated interstates are that way. I doubt many in New Orleans realize US 90 Biz is I-910 or with I-345 in Dallas it's US 75 even though 75 ends at I-30


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bing101

Quote from: sparker on November 26, 2019, 05:38:09 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 26, 2019, 12:32:09 AM
Quote from: TheStranger on November 26, 2019, 12:00:26 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 24, 2019, 09:42:16 PM
I would say US 50 is probably even more in common use these days than I-80 Business is.


Isn't some of that due to signing changes in the last 2-3 years where Business 80 now is only signed from US 50/Route 99 at the Oak Park Interchange to the 80/Business 80 split near Watt Avenue?  Some of it is also due to the US 50 carpool lane projects that emphasized the whole corridor (the El Dorado Freeway + WX Freeway + western segment of what was Business 80) as one number.


Yes, I-80 Business was completely de-emphasized on US 50 aside from some reassurance shields on surface ramps.  Even CA 51 (at least in the roadgeek world) is starting to pick up traction over I-80 Business designations.  Granted, CA 51 isn't signed in field at all by legislative requirement.


For all intents & purpose Biz 80 has evolved into more of a spur than a part of a functional loop; and even the city of Sacramento, which was the original driving force behind the Biz 80 designation to begin with, has apparently lost interest in the concept.   As a regional E-W corridor, labeling the whole West Sac/W-X/El Dorado freeway corridor as a single entity as US 50 is simply recognizing the reality that even when the loop was part of I-80 before 1982, most I-80 through traffic not having particular business in Sacramento veered off via (then) I-880 around the bypass.   Currently the 50 corridor rivals 80 in terms of both utility and, unfortunately, congestion; it's a much more useful designation for both local & through traffic.  The whole Biz 80 situation is well past its sell-by date; Caltrans should consider initiating a legislative remedy that allows CA 51 to be signed over its northeast segment.

Isn't CA-51 supposed to be a rumored 3d State route for the rumored I-7 or I-9 though as in CA-x07 and CA-x09 . I know for years there have been a rumored I-7 that is supposed to be with CA-99 from Sacramento's US-50 @ CA-51 intterchange to Ridge Route in Kern County with I-5 though.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: bing101 on December 01, 2019, 02:54:35 PM
Quote from: sparker on November 26, 2019, 05:38:09 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 26, 2019, 12:32:09 AM
Quote from: TheStranger on November 26, 2019, 12:00:26 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on November 24, 2019, 09:42:16 PM
I would say US 50 is probably even more in common use these days than I-80 Business is.


Isn't some of that due to signing changes in the last 2-3 years where Business 80 now is only signed from US 50/Route 99 at the Oak Park Interchange to the 80/Business 80 split near Watt Avenue?  Some of it is also due to the US 50 carpool lane projects that emphasized the whole corridor (the El Dorado Freeway + WX Freeway + western segment of what was Business 80) as one number.


Yes, I-80 Business was completely de-emphasized on US 50 aside from some reassurance shields on surface ramps.  Even CA 51 (at least in the roadgeek world) is starting to pick up traction over I-80 Business designations.  Granted, CA 51 isn't signed in field at all by legislative requirement.


For all intents & purpose Biz 80 has evolved into more of a spur than a part of a functional loop; and even the city of Sacramento, which was the original driving force behind the Biz 80 designation to begin with, has apparently lost interest in the concept.   As a regional E-W corridor, labeling the whole West Sac/W-X/El Dorado freeway corridor as a single entity as US 50 is simply recognizing the reality that even when the loop was part of I-80 before 1982, most I-80 through traffic not having particular business in Sacramento veered off via (then) I-880 around the bypass.   Currently the 50 corridor rivals 80 in terms of both utility and, unfortunately, congestion; it's a much more useful designation for both local & through traffic.  The whole Biz 80 situation is well past its sell-by date; Caltrans should consider initiating a legislative remedy that allows CA 51 to be signed over its northeast segment.

Isn't CA-51 supposed to be a rumored 3d State route for the rumored I-7 or I-9 though as in CA-x07 and CA-x09 . I know for years there have been a rumored I-7 that is supposed to be with CA-99 from Sacramento's US-50 @ CA-51 intterchange to Ridge Route in Kern County with I-5 though.

The CA 51 portion of I-80 Business isn't up to Interstate standards and the attempts to improve it when it was part of I-80 failed.  Even if a hypothetical I-7/I-9 were to happen I doubt there would be much interest in improving CA 51. 

debragga

Quote from: bassoon1986 on November 27, 2019, 12:26:09 AM
Quote from: dlsterner on November 24, 2019, 11:02:45 PM
Quote from: Some one on November 24, 2019, 09:22:16 PM
Is there a concurrency (interstate and US/state highway) you know where locals call it the secondary route over the primary route? For example, in Houston, even though portions of 59 are now co-signed with 69, most Houstonians still refer to it as 59.

Probably because the Interstate designation isn't posted anywhere, but I-595 between Washington D.C. and Annapolis is known as US 50 or US 50/301.

Yes, I bet any of the "hidden"  designated interstates are that way. I doubt many in New Orleans realize US 90 Biz is I-910 or with I-345 in Dallas it's US 75 even though 75 ends at I-30


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It's I-45 that ends at I-30, US-75 ends at Woodall Rogers

ekt8750

Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 26, 2019, 06:12:27 AM
In NJ, I-76 is often referred to as NJ 42, the route number south of I-76 but never a concurrency.

Occasionally, I've also heard it called I-676 from a few random people. I-676 is the route north of I-76.

But it's a rare day in hell when people actually refer to I-76 as I-76.

I actually saw a news report this morning refer to an accident that occurred in the EB lanes as "I-76 South". We're getting better I guess.

Roadwarriors79

Quote from: DJ Particle on November 26, 2019, 03:45:06 AM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on November 24, 2019, 09:50:05 PM
MA 128 over I-95 between Canton and Peabody
From what I'm hearing, that's becoming less common as time passes.

Spent a few weekends this past summer in the Boston area. Whenever the I-95/MA 128 section got mentioned by traffic reporters, I rarely (if ever) heard any mention of I-95. If the locals insist on referencing 128, then I think MassDOT should have just let it be prominently be cosigned with I-95 out in the field.

TheHighwayMan3561

In MSP, probably some older folks who still refer to I-394 as Highway 12 or more likely Wayzata Blvd, since 394 was only officially designated less than 30 years ago.

SectorZ

Quote from: Roadwarriors79 on December 07, 2019, 12:45:23 PM
Quote from: DJ Particle on November 26, 2019, 03:45:06 AM
Quote from: jp the roadgeek on November 24, 2019, 09:50:05 PM
MA 128 over I-95 between Canton and Peabody
From what I'm hearing, that's becoming less common as time passes.

Spent a few weekends this past summer in the Boston area. Whenever the I-95/MA 128 section got mentioned by traffic reporters, I rarely (if ever) heard any mention of I-95. If the locals insist on referencing 128, then I think MassDOT should have just let it be prominently be cosigned with I-95 out in the field.

It's media and mostly people over 40. I find most younger than me calls it 95. The media still calls the 93 stretch '128' despite the number being gone for 30 years.

thspfc

I-39 up the middle of the state is almost always called "51". Not even "highway 51", just simply 51.

DJ Particle

Quote from: SectorZ on December 08, 2019, 09:32:56 AM
It's media and mostly people over 40. I find most younger than me calls it 95. The media still calls the 93 stretch '128' despite the number being gone for 30 years.

This...I was talking more about common usage than what the news calls it.  My source is my little brother, who has lived in the area since about 2002.  Hell, he's over 40 himself and is sick  of the news and older people still calling it "128"...and he's not even a road geek.

bzakharin

I know some people who think the Delaware Memorial Bridge (which carries I-295 and US 40) is just US 40 with I-295 starting in NJ at the split with the NJ Turnpike.

StogieGuy7

Quote from: DJ Particle on December 09, 2019, 01:44:16 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on December 08, 2019, 09:32:56 AM
It's media and mostly people over 40. I find most younger than me calls it 95. The media still calls the 93 stretch '128' despite the number being gone for 30 years.

This...I was talking more about common usage than what the news calls it.  My source is my little brother, who has lived in the area since about 2002.  Hell, he's over 40 himself and is sick  of the news and older people still calling it "128"...and he's not even a road geek.

That may be true of your brother, but people in the area still use "128" and "495" as radial landmarks in the Boston area.  If you're outside of 128, you're well into the suburbs; beyond 495 you're in the boonies and might as well be in Worcester or NH.  And snow accumulations rise dramatically when you cross each one.  It's still 6 to 8 inches outside of 128 (and not 95) and 8 to 12 inches beyond 495.  And I doubt it will ever change.

SectorZ

Quote from: StogieGuy7 on December 17, 2019, 12:15:45 PM
Quote from: DJ Particle on December 09, 2019, 01:44:16 AM
Quote from: SectorZ on December 08, 2019, 09:32:56 AM
It's media and mostly people over 40. I find most younger than me calls it 95. The media still calls the 93 stretch '128' despite the number being gone for 30 years.

This...I was talking more about common usage than what the news calls it.  My source is my little brother, who has lived in the area since about 2002.  Hell, he's over 40 himself and is sick  of the news and older people still calling it "128"...and he's not even a road geek.

That may be true of your brother, but people in the area still use "128" and "495" as radial landmarks in the Boston area.  If you're outside of 128, you're well into the suburbs; beyond 495 you're in the boonies and might as well be in Worcester or NH.  And snow accumulations rise dramatically when you cross each one.  It's still 6 to 8 inches outside of 128 (and not 95) and 8 to 12 inches beyond 495.  And I doubt it will ever change.

With an influx of new people into the area and younger people who've never seen 128 signed primarily as 128, it's a lot less. Keep in mind there are very few overhead signs referencing 128 anymore, none of which are on I-95 itself.

I feel bad for people new to the area wondering what '128' is between Canton and Braintree. That really needs to stop and it's enabled by people who can't accept change.

fillup420

the new I-87 is still called "64" by everyone around eastern NC. I-87 is known, but only as a new number that disappears after passing Knightdale. So therefore the road is still called 64.

I predict the same thing will happen when I-42 shows up on Highway 70 east of Garner. Local folks will say "its been Highway 70 for over fifty years, why did they change the number?"

bing101

Quote from: webny99 on November 26, 2019, 08:05:35 PM
Rochester is unique in that we have I-390/NY 390 and I-590/NY 590. However, it's rare to specify which one you're talking about, so tough to say if that qualifies for this thread.


Los Angeles area the same thing is true such as CA-110/I-110 and I-210/CA-210. Note there is a CA-710 at the CA-134 @ I-210 interchange but locals refer to that as the I-710 gap when they are talking about CA-710.

dvferyance

Quote from: hbelkins on November 25, 2019, 01:46:21 PM
Radio reports on WHAS in Louisville refer to I-265 as "841."
It's been 3 years and they still haven't adjusted.

MikieTimT

Quote from: ozarkman417 on November 25, 2019, 06:20:05 PM
I'm sure there's plenty of people in this part of the state who still refer to I-49 as US-71, partly because the only parts 71 is not congruent to 49 in MO is where 49 does (not yet) exist.

Same goes further south in Arkansas.  Google's navigation even still refers to I-49 as US-71 when turning north off the Wedington Rd. exit.  It's been I-49 everywhere here other than Bella Vista for the last 2 years now, so maybe they'll eventually change it.  And it was I-540 for a number of years prior to that.

DJ Particle

It's funny... in Minneapolis, they usually don't let go of old names.  The Dayton's downtown was always called "Dayton's" even when it became Marshall Fields and later Macy's.  Now that Macy's has moved out, they're officially calling the soon to be office building "The Dayton's Building" again.   :-D

Same for the Speedway stores in the area.  Many still call them "SA".

The MSP airport terminals were stripped of their names (Lindburgh, Humphrey) by Delta when they took over ownership, in favor of simply "Terminal 1" and "Terminal 2".  The Light Rail, and the locals, still refer to them by their old names.

Given that, I find it rather odd that no one still calls I-394 "Highway 12"   :-D

froggie

QuoteGiven that, I find it rather odd that no one still calls I-394 "Highway 12"

You're not talking to the right people...😌

Plenty of us "old timers" who still call 62 "the Crosstown", too.

hbelkins

Does anyone still call the PA Turnpike NE Extension "9" instead of "476?"
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