Minor things that bother you

[jgb191]

Drivers who turn or change lanes without using turn signal.

[kphoger]

Drivers who turn or change lanes without using turn signal.

This usually doesn't bother me too much.  But every winter, when it first snows, half the people in this city forget not only that they need to signal lane changes, but that they even need to make sure the next lane is CLEAR FIRST.

Checked before changing lanes, but did not signal?  meh.

Did not check before changing lanes, but signaled?  not too happy about that, but it happens.

Neither checked before changing lanes nor signaled?    triggered...

[kkt]

If you want people to come on a particular date, specify the date by number.

[Big John]

If you want people to come on a particular date, specify the date by number.

Is she a 10?

[thspfc]

If you want people to come on a particular date, specify the date by number.

Is she a 10?

The 'a' is certainly pulling some weight here.

[Scott5114]

On one of those, I'm double-prompted to enter my username and password:  I enter them once on a popup screen, then I get directed to another screen where I have to enter them again.  One day, I entered an old password on the first prompt, and it worked just fine.  So now, for the past year or two, I just hit random keys on the keyboard for my 'password' on that first screen, because it's pointless.  And if it doesn't matter, then why prompt me for my password to begin with?

We've previously discussed that your system partially uses the same software as the system at the casinos I worked at, and ours did the same thing: asked for a username/password in a Windows dialog (which was the same for everyone in the casino), then ask for the same username/password in a terminal screen, at which point you'd be connected to the actual casino accounting system and be asked for your real username and password.

I ended up going into Inkscape and creating a barcode that, when scanned by a barcode scanner (which each computer that used that system had, since it was the system we used to redeem slot tickets), would enter the username/password. People saw it and asked for photocopies. By the time I left, everyone had one stuck to the back of their badge.

If IT ever found out, they'd probably have a stroke.

[dvferyance]

Drivers who turn or change lanes without using turn signal.

What really annoys me is the drivers who get in the improper lane after making a turn onto a multilane road. If you are making a right turn you take the right lane. If you are making a left turn you take the left lane. Simple as that. This rule is ignored a lot.

[LilianaUwU]

Drivers who turn or change lanes without using turn signal.

Related: those who take their sweet ass time to turn right.

[SSOWorld]

https://youtu.be/W836Mw8lDnA

This bothers me to no end.

My response?
"No, you won't"
They reply... "What makes you so sure?"
I don't live near you.

[algorerhythms]

https://youtu.be/W836Mw8lDnA

This bothers me to no end.

My response?
"No, you won't"
They reply... "What makes you so sure?"
I don't live near you.

No, you won't what? I don't feel like clicking on a youtube link and watching a video to find out...

[jeffandnicole]

https://youtu.be/W836Mw8lDnA

This bothers me to no end.

My response?
"No, you won't"
They reply... "What makes you so sure?"
I don't live near you.

No, you won't what? I don't feel like clicking on a youtube link and watching a video to find out...

The ending will shock you.

[Scott5114]

Drivers who turn or change lanes without using turn signal.

Related: those who take their sweet ass time to turn right.

I call these drama queen turns. "LOOK AT ME! I'M TURNING! I'M TURNING! EVERYONE LOOK AT ME TURNING!"

[1995hoo]

Drivers who turn or change lanes without using turn signal.

What really annoys me is the drivers who get in the improper lane after making a turn onto a multilane road. If you are making a right turn you take the right lane. If you are making a left turn you take the left lane. Simple as that. This rule is ignored a lot.

What I really hate drivers who do this when there are dual (or multiple) turn lanes. Here's a Google Street View of that happening at an intersection not far from where I live. The black minivan is turning into the middle lane, which is supposed to belong to that silver Honda. That happens all the time there—when it happened to me once (I was where the silver Honda is), I honked and the [redacted] driving the other car gave me the finger and did what she wanted anyway. Turned out she wanted to cut all the way across to the far left lane.

In theory, if people would turn into the correct lane it would allow greater efficiency insofar as people could turn right on red while people coming the other way are turning left—at least, it would allow that at intersections where the "destination road" has enough lanes that no turns "should" come in conflict with each other, or at intersections where turns on red are restricted from one lane. (The intersection seen in the Street View above is an example of the latter because right on red is not permitted from the optional turn lane the silver Honda used, consistent with VDOT's obsession with permitting right on red from the curb lane only.) That is to say, suppose the northbound road onto which I am turning has two lanes, and suppose the road I'm on has one right-turn lane going west and one left-turn lane going east. In theory, drivers going both west and east should be able to turn at the same time if they maintain lane discipline. In practice, that doesn't happen. (Of course I also recognize this can't work at every intersection if there is a reason to cut across, like a gas station right near the corner or similar. Traffic coming from the far side and making a left turn at this intersection, for example, has to cut across to the other lane in order to reach the Mr. Wash.)

[kphoger]

On one of those, I'm double-prompted to enter my username and password:  I enter them once on a popup screen, then I get directed to another screen where I have to enter them again.  One day, I entered an old password on the first prompt, and it worked just fine.  So now, for the past year or two, I just hit random keys on the keyboard for my 'password' on that first screen, because it's pointless.  And if it doesn't matter, then why prompt me for my password to begin with?

We've previously discussed that your system partially uses the same software as the system at the casinos I worked at, and ours did the same thing: asked for a username/password in a Windows dialog (which was the same for everyone in the casino), then ask for the same username/password in a terminal screen, at which point you'd be connected to the actual casino accounting system and be asked for your real username and password.

I ended up going into Inkscape and creating a barcode that, when scanned by a barcode scanner (which each computer that used that system had, since it was the system we used to redeem slot tickets), would enter the username/password. People saw it and asked for photocopies. By the time I left, everyone had one stuck to the back of their badge.

If IT ever found out, they'd probably have a stroke.

Ironically, this is not that system.  Different MSO, different VPN, different programs, different everything.

[webny99]

What I really hate drivers who do this when there are dual (or multiple) turn lanes. Here's a Google Street View of that happening at an intersection not far from where I live. The black minivan is turning into the middle lane, which is supposed to belong to that silver Honda. That happens all the time there—when it happened to me once (I was where the silver Honda is), I honked and the [redacted] driving the other car gave me the finger and did what she wanted anyway. Turned out she wanted to cut all the way across to the far left lane.

As annoying as that is, one worse is when there is no left turn lane and people turn left from a lane that isn't the left lane. I just had that happen to me here the other day (a car turned left from the position of the Street View car). In addition to being annoying/confusing, this is also dangerous because of the possibility that a car in the left lane could be going straight (unlikely here because any thru traffic would have entered the freeway, but still a possibility).

I must confess I did this myself once several years ago at the next intersection west of here when the line to turn left was backed up nearly on the freeway because of an accident. I judged the ~10 minute time savings outweighed the risk in that particular scenario and I was careful to make sure that the cars next to me were indeed turning left. Since then, pavement markings have been added to show that anyone wishing to go straight should use the left lane*, so if I was in a similar situation here again, I would turn right and pull a U-turn somewhere instead of attempting a left turn from what is now - but was not then - a right turn only lane.


*In my view, the pavement markings now make it explicitly illegal to turn left from the right lane. At the time I completed the above-mentioned maneuver, there were no pavement markings or signage, so it was *completely* ambiguous, even more so than the example in my first paragraph because there's only a single lane on the freeway on-ramp on the other side of the intersection, so it would have been possible to argue that turning left from the right lane did not create a conflict... i.e. the left lane was for left turns only, and it was therefore possible to safely make any turn movement from the right lane, as per the precedent set in an almost identical but much better-signed scenario here.

[wxfree]

Drivers who turn or change lanes without using turn signal.

What really annoys me is the drivers who get in the improper lane after making a turn onto a multilane road. If you are making a right turn you take the right lane. If you are making a left turn you take the left lane. Simple as that. This rule is ignored a lot.

There's a common belief that it's illegal to change lanes in an intersection.  I think it's one of the violations Jim Carrey's dishonest character admits to in "Liar Liar."  His character is a lawyer, which fits with the lying theme, and presumably knows a little about the law, but maybe the writers don't.  I remember a television show years ago in which this matter was addressed, and it was stated that no such law exists.  Of course, that can vary by state.  For example, in Texas you are allowed to turn left onto a multi-lane road and enter any lane that is open for traffic moving in that direction.  I recall a possibly different show in which one of the high-ups in CHP, I think the commissioner or whatever he is, talked about traffic laws (there is no "fast lane," the speed limit is the same in all lanes).  Considering where most television shows are made, California laws are most likely to be the ones discussed.

A few times in past years, I saw a bill proposed in the Texas legislature that would require lane consistency while turning.  If turning left from the left lane, you must land in the left lane.  Turning from the center lane, you must land in the right lane.  The legalese they used to describe that took a minute to decipher, but when I figured it out I realized that there was no such law in place, as I had always assumed.  Highway departments sometimes mark the curved turns as lanes, with broken white stripes, but since lane changes in intersections are legal, crossing them, while bad driving, is not illegal in itself.  (This applies to Texas.)

In my experience, you can't expect people to do the right thing, but particular places you can expect people to do the wrong thing.  In downtown squares, you can really expect people to break this rule (not law) about multi-lane turns.  It happens constantly.  I've seen drivers start turning left (I'm thinking of two one-way couplets and left turns at the far side of the main square) from the center lane, swerve into the left lane, and then land in the right lane, performing two counteracting lane changes.  On wider roads I've seen things like that a lot less, but there seems to be something about the confinement and sharp turns of narrower downtown roads that makes people want to use all of the space they can rather than sharing it.  Or it may be that in bigger cities where wide roads and multi-lane turns are more common, the drivers are more accustomed to it.

[hbelkins]

If you want people to come on a particular date, specify the date by number.

Is she a 10?

The 'a' is certainly pulling some weight here.

Unless the 10 is in dog years.

[1995hoo]

There's a common belief that it's illegal to change lanes in an intersection.  I think it's one of the violations Jim Carrey's dishonest character admits to in "Liar Liar."  His character is a lawyer, which fits with the lying theme, and presumably knows a little about the law, but maybe the writers don't.  I remember a television show years ago in which this matter was addressed, and it was stated that no such law exists.  Of course, that can vary by state.  For example, in Texas you are allowed to turn left onto a multi-lane road and enter any lane that is open for traffic moving in that direction.  I recall a possibly different show in which one of the high-ups in CHP, I think the commissioner or whatever he is, talked about traffic laws (there is no "fast lane," the speed limit is the same in all lanes).  Considering where most television shows are made, California laws are most likely to be the ones discussed.

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What happens in Texas when there are multiple turn lanes turning in the same direction, such as in the example I linked above (which is in Virginia)? Surely the driver in the far right lane cannot just cut over to the left if there is someone else turning right from the next lane over, for example, just because state law may not require turning into the "closest" lane. That is, it seems that the driver in the second lane would be entitled to occupy the second lane such that the guy in the curb lane could be cited for failure to yield, at a minimum.

[kphoger]

What happens in Texas when there are multiple turn lanes turning in the same direction, such as in the example I linked above (which is in Virginia)? Surely the driver in the far right lane cannot just cut over to the left if there is someone else turning right from the next lane over, for example, just because state law may not require turning into the "closest" lane. That is, it seems that the driver in the second lane would be entitled to occupy the second lane such that the guy in the curb lane could be cited for failure to yield, at a minimum.

The Texas Transportation Code does not appear to address dual turn lanes at all.  Theoretically, at least, a vehicle in either lane could legally turn into either lane of the cross-street.  The verbiage only demands that you "arrive in a lane lawfully available to traffic moving in the direction of the vehicle on the roadway being entered [Sec. 545.101]".  But the code is obviously not even considering the existence of a dual left-turn lane, because it also says to "approach the intersection in the extreme left-hand lane lawfully available".

[jeffandnicole]

There's a common belief that it's illegal to change lanes in an intersection.  I think it's one of the violations Jim Carrey's dishonest character admits to in "Liar Liar."  His character is a lawyer, which fits with the lying theme, and presumably knows a little about the law, but maybe the writers don't.  I remember a television show years ago in which this matter was addressed, and it was stated that no such law exists.  Of course, that can vary by state.  For example, in Texas you are allowed to turn left onto a multi-lane road and enter any lane that is open for traffic moving in that direction.  I recall a possibly different show in which one of the high-ups in CHP, I think the commissioner or whatever he is, talked about traffic laws (there is no "fast lane," the speed limit is the same in all lanes).  Considering where most television shows are made, California laws are most likely to be the ones discussed.

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What happens in Texas when there are multiple turn lanes turning in the same direction, such as in the example I linked above (which is in Virginia)? Surely the driver in the far right lane cannot just cut over to the left if there is someone else turning right from the next lane over, for example, just because state law may not require turning into the "closest" lane. That is, it seems that the driver in the second lane would be entitled to occupy the second lane such that the guy in the curb lane could be cited for failure to yield, at a minimum.

It would appear Texas Transporation Code 545.101(e)(2) takes care of that, probably by signage or striping.  https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/docs/tn/htm/tn.545.htm (scroll about 1/4 of the way down the page).

[kphoger]

probably by signage or striping

Yeah, that's a pretty vague subsection.

[1995hoo]

On the link from jeffandnicole, maybe this covers it:

Sec. 545.103.  SAFELY TURNING.  An operator may not turn the vehicle to enter a private road or driveway, otherwise turn the vehicle from a direct course, or move right or left on a roadway unless movement can be made safely.

If you have a dual turn situation and there is a car to your right or left, you presumably cannot safely move in that direction (although of course some people feel that as long as there are six inches of space available it's "safe" to go).

[kphoger]

... 6/5 ... fuck ...

69ing is like fractions.

Get it?

Nobody?  Nobody has heard this one?  OK, OK...

69ing is like fractions.  If the bigger one is on top, then it's improper.

[SSOWorld]

Drivers who turn or change lanes without using turn signal.

People who bitch about drivers who turn without using a turn signals. The changing lanes part is legit to me

[GaryV]

These many years ago, my drivers ed instructor told us we needed to turn into the "first legal lane". But I think he said there was an exception if we were going to turn from the opposite lane in a short distance.

Michigan Lefts screw up the whole mess. You go through the crossover and if you are supposed to go into the leftmost lane, you then have to lane change one or more times to the right to complete your turn. Someone in a car with self-driving mode made a video a couple years ago and the car had to struggle to cross 3 lanes of traffic to get to the far right.