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Unbuilt Highway of Connecticut
« on: March 25, 2020, 04:04:01 PM »

I Wanted to make a page on the Unbuilt Highways of Ct, because i believe Ct has the Most unbuilt Freeways/Expressways in the Country

Like I-291, I-484, I-491, I-84/I-86 Mix up, CT 11 to New London

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Re: Unbuilt Highway of Connecticut
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2020, 09:47:11 PM »

Also add to that list:
I-284, Trout Brook Freeway, Flatbush Freeway

And that's just in the Greater Hartford area (and a lot more proposed on kurumi's site)

In SW Connecticut, you had US 7 South, US 7 North, CT 25, Sherwood Island Parkway, East Rock Freeway (southern CT 10), CT 34


Of all the unbuilt/unfinished roads, I-291 was unique in that a few pieces were built before the main highway was built, and ultimately cancelled.  Its southern terminus at I-91 in Rocky Hill just north of Exit 23 existed for many years until the 90s when a 4th lane was added and the unused overpasses removed.  To this day, the concrete pavement still exists where I-291 South would've met I-91 South.  And then of course the Stack on I-84, which sat unused until CT 9 was open in 1992. 

"Suicide Six" from Bolton to Columbia and CT 11 from Salem to Waterford/East Lyme have gotten the most attention in recent years as far as attempts to restart those projects.  Both are off the table, I believe.  Given traffic levels on CT 11, I say remove the whole thing.  It will ultimately reduce traffic on CT 85, since there won't be an exit off Route 2 to sign as "New London" via CT 11... that would get moved down to I-395 South in Norwich. 

US 7 North was partially built, but didn't quite reach where it was intended to in New Milford, instead acting as a bypass around Brookfield center.  It gives the highway a more suitable end, vs ending with a one way ramp on an abandoned bridge or at a rock wall.  The same can't be said of US 7 South in Norwalk.
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Re: Unbuilt Highway of Connecticut
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2020, 12:42:14 AM »

Also add to that list:
I-284, Trout Brook Freeway, Flatbush Freeway

And that's just in the Greater Hartford area (and a lot more proposed on kurumi's site)

In SW Connecticut, you had US 7 South, US 7 North, CT 25, Sherwood Island Parkway, East Rock Freeway (southern CT 10), CT 34


Of all the unbuilt/unfinished roads, I-291 was unique in that a few pieces were built before the main highway was built, and ultimately cancelled.  Its southern terminus at I-91 in Rocky Hill just north of Exit 23 existed for many years until the 90s when a 4th lane was added and the unused overpasses removed.  To this day, the concrete pavement still exists where I-291 South would've met I-91 South.  And then of course the Stack on I-84, which sat unused until CT 9 was open in 1992. 

"Suicide Six" from Bolton to Columbia and CT 11 from Salem to Waterford/East Lyme have gotten the most attention in recent years as far as attempts to restart those projects.  Both are off the table, I believe.  Given traffic levels on CT 11, I say remove the whole thing.  It will ultimately reduce traffic on CT 85, since there won't be an exit off Route 2 to sign as "New London" via CT 11... that would get moved down to I-395 South in Norwich. 

US 7 North was partially built, but didn't quite reach where it was intended to in New Milford, instead acting as a bypass around Brookfield center.  It gives the highway a more suitable end, vs ending with a one way ramp on an abandoned bridge or at a rock wall.  The same can't be said of US 7 South in Norwalk.

I usually go past Hartford once a year in July and I’m always wondering, why did the proposed so many highways in Hartford? There is stub ramps everywhere in the Hartford Metro, Governer Street, CT 3, I-384, I mean the Hartford Area would’ve looked like NYC but has like 5% the population of NYC
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Re: Unbuilt Highway of Connecticut
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2020, 01:09:08 AM »

If CT 11 had not been half built in 1972, no one would have been talking about an 11 freeway at all in 2000. But it's dead now anyway.

There are a lot of other proposed routes that are more sparsely covered than the Hartford area:
* CT 2 in Norwich
* The Groton - Griswold Expressway (117/164)
* CT 73 in Watertown (I've found basically nothing on that except dotted lines on regional planning maps)
* CT 110 expressway into New York (and a controversy about a planned interchange with US 7 freeway)
* US 6 east of I-395 was reported built on a 4-lane or expressway ROW, with plans to expand... but all that ever happened was that super 2 interchange with frontage roads
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Re: Unbuilt Highway of Connecticut
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2020, 02:05:06 AM »

A few more:

CT 8 north of Winsted up to the Mass Pike
CT 10 both north and south of I-84
CT 20 east of I-91 out to I-84 in the Vernon-Tolland area
The US 44 and CT 4 expressways west of Hartford
The CT 78 extension to I-95 (and even to I-395)
The numerous Long Island Sound crossings

I have some exit signs for CT 8 and CT 10 on my Flickr page.
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Re: Unbuilt Highway of Connecticut
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2020, 11:56:22 AM »

If CT 11 had not been half built in 1972, no one would have been talking about an 11 freeway at all in 2000. But it's dead now anyway.

There are a lot of other proposed routes that are more sparsely covered than the Hartford area:
* CT 2 in Norwich
* The Groton - Griswold Expressway (117/164)
* CT 73 in Watertown (I've found basically nothing on that except dotted lines on regional planning maps)
* CT 110 expressway into New York (and a controversy about a planned interchange with US 7 freeway)
* US 6 east of I-395 was reported built on a 4-lane or expressway ROW, with plans to expand... but all that ever happened was that super 2 interchange with frontage roads

i've heard CTDOT wanted to upgrade CT 2? is that true?
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Re: Unbuilt Highway of Connecticut
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2020, 12:39:59 PM »

If CT 11 had not been half built in 1972, no one would have been talking about an 11 freeway at all in 2000. But it's dead now anyway.

There are a lot of other proposed routes that are more sparsely covered than the Hartford area:
* CT 2 in Norwich
* The Groton - Griswold Expressway (117/164)
* CT 73 in Watertown (I've found basically nothing on that except dotted lines on regional planning maps)
* CT 110 expressway into New York (and a controversy about a planned interchange with US 7 freeway)
* US 6 east of I-395 was reported built on a 4-lane or expressway ROW, with plans to expand... but all that ever happened was that super 2 interchange with frontage roads

i've heard CTDOT wanted to upgrade CT 2? is that true?
It's in the above list?

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Re: Unbuilt Highway of Connecticut
« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2020, 08:13:20 PM »

Also add to that list:
I-284, Trout Brook Freeway, Flatbush Freeway

And that's just in the Greater Hartford area (and a lot more proposed on kurumi's site)

In SW Connecticut, you had US 7 South, US 7 North, CT 25, Sherwood Island Parkway, East Rock Freeway (southern CT 10), CT 34


Of all the unbuilt/unfinished roads, I-291 was unique in that a few pieces were built before the main highway was built, and ultimately cancelled.  Its southern terminus at I-91 in Rocky Hill just north of Exit 23 existed for many years until the 90s when a 4th lane was added and the unused overpasses removed.  To this day, the concrete pavement still exists where I-291 South would've met I-91 South.  And then of course the Stack on I-84, which sat unused until CT 9 was open in 1992. 


I just walked by I-291 in Farmington recently. Of course if this part was open, the original concrete would've been paved over 1000 times already.

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Re: Unbuilt Highway of Connecticut
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2020, 09:34:44 PM »

I usually go past Hartford once a year in July and I’m always wondering, why did the proposed so many highways in Hartford? There is stub ramps everywhere in the Hartford Metro, Governer Street, CT 3, I-384, I mean the Hartford Area would’ve looked like NYC but has like 5% the population of NYC

And today, well, pre-March 2020 (and hopefully again), we suffer from some of those expressways not being built. I-84 through Hartford wasn't meant to carry thru traffic from points west to points north.  That's why it took so long to get the 84E->91N flyover built.  Prior to 1990, that direct connection didn't exist.  I-291 was supposed to serve that purpose.  And the Trout Brook Freeway and Sisson Ave Freeway could've helped route traffic as well.  I-484 if built would've taken that 84EB to 91 SB traffic and moved it just south of downtown. 

I wished I-291 from Farmington to Windsor had been built, and same with I-86/I-491 from Glastonbury to Manchester, as those two routes would've really helped distribute traffic and given some more alternative routes around the city. 
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Re: Unbuilt Highway of Connecticut
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2020, 10:39:36 PM »

A few more:

CT 8 north of Winsted up to the Mass Pike
CT 10 both north and south of I-84
CT 20 east of I-91 out to I-84 in the Vernon-Tolland area
The US 44 and CT 4 expressways west of Hartford
The CT 78 extension to I-95 (and even to I-395)
The numerous Long Island Sound crossings

I have some exit signs for CT 8 and CT 10 on my Flickr page.

CT-40, which I recall from earlier readings was envisiond as a loop around New Haven to connect I-91 and I-95.

CT-190 between I-91 and the Connecticut River was envisioned to be a major freeway across the northern part of the state.
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Re: Unbuilt Highway of Connecticut
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2020, 01:33:23 AM »

-CT 83 freeway running from CT 2 in Glastonbury to I-84 in Vernon to the planned CT 20 freeway in Somers.

-Beltways have been proposed around New Haven and Norwich/New London.

-The Berlin Turnpike was planned to be completely grade separated.

-CT 66 freeway from I-691 to CT 9/17 in Middletown.

-CT 17 freeway from the split at CT 2 to New Haven.

-CT 9 freeway extension from the Berlin Turnpike to the stub ramps on I-84 at Flatbush and Sisson Aves., to the current CT 189 freeway stub in Bloomfield and possibly as far as MA 57, Southwick.

-Possible CT 82 freeway from CT 9 to CT 11 or CT 2.

More recently:

-Proposed realignment of I-84 south of Downtown Hartford, mostly via multiplexing with I-91 and CT 15.


-CT 71 or 175 freeway from I-291 (now CT 9) across Newington to the vic. of I-84, Flatbush Ave.

Extended CT 72 freeway to CT 8.

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Re: Unbuilt Highway of Connecticut
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2020, 08:58:54 AM »

Of all the unbuilt/unfinished roads, I-291 was unique in that a few pieces were built before the main highway was built, and ultimately cancelled.  Its southern terminus at I-91 in Rocky Hill just north of Exit 23 existed for many years until the 90s when a 4th lane was added and the unused overpasses removed.  To this day, the concrete pavement still exists where I-291 South would've met I-91 South.  And then of course the Stack on I-84, which sat unused until CT 9 was open in 1992. 


I just walked by I-291 in Farmington recently. Of course if this part was open, the original concrete would've been paved over 1000 times already.


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So that vantage point is from the N, looking directly S at the late sixties Stack?   Of a four lane I-291 mainline?  Did not realize that much of a stub had been constructed northward from the Stack.   Do remember it in the seventies/eighties, before much of the concrete pavement on I-84 in the general area had been paved over.   Also remember Dad, driving, always referring to it as a "political blunder" at that time.   His viewpoint was similar to many others at the time, they simply believed that transit was the answer to all transportation issues.   And expensive heavy rail also, instead of envisioning flexible buses that could have used the new roads.  There were many other potentially useful projects at that time, in New England that simply ran into opposition that could not be overcome, because they waited to long to begin, or were simply too expensive for the time. 
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Re: Unbuilt Highway of Connecticut
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2020, 05:54:34 PM »



I usually go past Hartford once a year in July and I’m always wondering, why did the proposed so many highways in Hartford? There is stub ramps everywhere in the Hartford Metro, Governer Street, CT 3, I-384, I mean the Hartford Area would’ve looked like NYC but has like 5% the population of NYC

And today, well, pre-March 2020 (and hopefully again), we suffer from some of those expressways not being built. I-84 through Hartford wasn't meant to carry thru traffic from points west to points north.  That's why it took so long to get the 84E->91N flyover built.  Prior to 1990, that direct connection didn't exist.  I-291 was supposed to serve that purpose.  And the Trout Brook Freeway and Sisson Ave Freeway could've helped route traffic as well.  I-484 if built would've taken that 84EB to 91 SB traffic and moved it just south of downtown. 

The flyover was blocked by G. Fox., which made that at-grade connection totally miserable as traffic backed up onto I-84 frequently.  It was a great day when the flyover opened.
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Re: Unbuilt Highway of Connecticut
« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2020, 07:47:14 PM »

The above pic looks to be from South Road, looking north towards "The Stack" in Farmington.
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