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22 Mile "Gap"
« on: May 20, 2020, 09:24:54 PM »

ARDOT never ceases to amaze me how stupid they seem to be.

AR 27 runs from Ar 7 at Dardanelle to US 71 near Ben Lomond. At Norman, it joins AR 8 to near Glenwood,  then joins US 70 to Kirby... a distance of approximately 22 miles.  This whole distance, AR 27 isn't posted at all...it "disappears".  Not even a trailblazer

Further north, 27 is posted with trailblazers along duplexed roadways (TO 27).

There's also a 14 mile gap of AR 27 between Dardanelle and Dover along AR 7.

Seems like I've written ARDOT before (as has Bugo) only to get BS answers.

Are they "saving money" by confusing motorists?

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Re: 22 Mile "Gap"
« Reply #1 on: May 21, 2020, 12:51:38 PM »

If you come to Indiana, you will find numerous examples of this.  So many, that if you are a bit inclined to drink, you will order a case from your nearest vendor.  There are some incidents of a road being marked up to the city limits, then not marked at all in the city, only to pick up on the other side.  You are never sure if you are traveling towards the rest of the road while going through town.
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Re: 22 Mile "Gap"
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2020, 12:03:06 AM »

ARDOT never ceases to amaze me how stupid they seem to be.

AR 27 runs from Ar 7 at Dardanelle to US 71 near Ben Lomond. At Norman, it joins AR 8 to near Glenwood,  then joins US 70 to Kirby... a distance of approximately 22 miles.  This whole distance, AR 27 isn't posted at all...it "disappears".  Not even a trailblazer

Further north, 27 is posted with trailblazers along duplexed roadways (TO 27).

There's also a 14 mile gap of AR 27 between Dardanelle and Dover along AR 7.

Seems like I've written ARDOT before (as has Bugo) only to get BS answers.

Are they "saving money" by confusing motorists?

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They are notorious for not signing their routes properly. In Searcy, there are several examples. 1. AR 36 being a prime example. There is a AR 36 east trailblazer just off of the US 67 off ramp. If I recall correctly, the current alignment of AR 36 is Beebe-Capps Blvd until reaching east line road. Then a sign points left for the continuation of AR 36, but it isn't posted with AR 367. According to the map, it is duplexed with AR 367 until reaching the "Y" where Race St and East line Rd and 36 east to Kensett meet up.
AR 367 also isn't properly signed. The portion of Main St from Booth Rd on south is AR 367, but there happens to be a JCT 367 just as you make your way over the US 67 overpass. Hmm...I thought I was already on 367!!

Their "broken" routes like AR 310, 110, 13, and others don't make any sense whatsoever.
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Re: 22 Mile "Gap"
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2020, 06:23:59 AM »

Here is a recently made gap that pisses me off:

US 82 is being widened across Arkansas. They recently completed a segment starting at the US 82 west/US 79 north junction southward (this part being the Magnolia bypass), to the US 79 south junction...then eastward toward Marysville & El Dorado.

Let's discuss the Magnolia bypass. This stretch of US 79 is where US 82 joins in as "a guest" route with US 79. Both junctions meet US 79 at 90 4-way intersections. US 79 goes straight through with no turns. So when the new signage was put up along the Magnolia bypass, US 79's half of the concurrency was eliminated! Now US 79 has TO trailblazers and JCT banners along here now, creating a gap in this US ROUTE that wasn't there before!

C'MON ARDOT!!!!! QUIT BEING STUPID!!!!!!! 😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬
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Re: 22 Mile "Gap"
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2020, 04:30:54 PM »

ARDOT never ceases to amaze me how stupid they seem to be.

AR 27 runs from Ar 7 at Dardanelle to US 71 near Ben Lomond. At Norman, it joins AR 8 to near Glenwood,  then joins US 70 to Kirby... a distance of approximately 22 miles.  This whole distance, AR 27 isn't posted at all...it "disappears".  Not even a trailblazer

Further north, 27 is posted with trailblazers along duplexed roadways (TO 27).

There's also a 14 mile gap of AR 27 between Dardanelle and Dover along AR 7.

Seems like I've written ARDOT before (as has Bugo) only to get BS answers.

Are they "saving money" by confusing motorists?

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Since I mentioned AR 7 on a thread I just posted on, there's the confusion of AR 164 in Pope County as well. There's the segment west from AR 7 to Hagarville, the segment east from AR 7 to Moreland. Cut and dried, right?

Nope. There is a stub end of AR 164 at Scottsville that intersects AR 27 and crosses the Illinois Bayou over a one-lane bridge. So in ARDOT's imagination, AR 164 crosses over via a county road to the stub, then 164 quietly duplexes with AR 27 to Dover, where 164 continues east. In fact, I recall seeing concurrency arrows for both 27 and 164 at the intersections in Dover a long time ago.
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Re: 22 Mile "Gap"
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2020, 04:34:43 PM »

ARDOT never ceases to amaze me how stupid they seem to be.

AR 27 runs from Ar 7 at Dardanelle to US 71 near Ben Lomond. At Norman, it joins AR 8 to near Glenwood,  then joins US 70 to Kirby... a distance of approximately 22 miles.  This whole distance, AR 27 isn't posted at all...it "disappears".  Not even a trailblazer

Further north, 27 is posted with trailblazers along duplexed roadways (TO 27).

There's also a 14 mile gap of AR 27 between Dardanelle and Dover along AR 7.

Seems like I've written ARDOT before (as has Bugo) only to get BS answers.

Are they "saving money" by confusing motorists?

-end rant-

Since I mentioned AR 7 on a thread I just posted on, there's the confusion of AR 164 in Pope County as well. There's the segment west from AR 7 to Hagarville, the segment east from AR 7 to Moreland. Cut and dried, right?

Nope. There is a stub end of AR 164 at Scottsville that intersects AR 27 and crosses the Illinois Bayou over a one-lane bridge. So in ARDOT's imagination, AR 164 crosses over via a county road to the stub, then 164 quietly duplexes with AR 27 to Dover, where 164 continues east. In fact, I recall seeing concurrency arrows for both 27 and 164 at the intersections in Dover a long time ago.

AR 45 used to be one continuous route as well before it was chopped up. Originally ran from AR 68 near Huntsville, through Fayetteville, Prairie Grove, Van Buren , Fort Smith, Hartford.  It was extended to AR 12, but sliced up south of Fayetteville.
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Re: 22 Mile "Gap"
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2020, 05:48:28 PM »

This sounds like a gap that drives people crazy in the Stamford, CT/Pound Ridge, NY area.  At one time, CT and NY 124 were both part of one continuous route.  In 1966, NYSDOT extended NY 124 to the CT border via an overlap with NY 137 and by taking over NY 394.  In response, CTDOT renumbered CT 29 to CT 124 to reciprocate.  4 years later, NYSDOT reneged on the extension, and left CT holding the bag, creating a 3 mile gap between routes.  Now, CT 124 becomes a local road (Westchester Ave) at the border, and one must follow the local road and NY 137 to get to NY 124.  However, as a courtesy, NYSDOT did leave a TO CONN 124 sign on NY 137 south, but uses a NY route sign and puts the TO and CONN on 2 separate banners above the route sign.  The interesting thing is that directions on Google treat CT and NY 124 as one continuous route; it tells you to turn right on NY 124/NY 137 North at the junction of Westchester Ave and NY 137. 
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Re: 22 Mile "Gap"
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2020, 12:34:14 AM »

Eh, I don't mind the gap.
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