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States still installing span wires

Started by STLmapboy, June 30, 2020, 10:30:39 PM

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Quote from: jay8g on July 06, 2020, 12:24:44 AM
Quote from: TEG24601 on July 05, 2020, 05:53:27 PM
I've seen a couple of those around.  It would be nice if Seattle and surrounding communities would convince Comcast, Wave, Ziply, and Century Link to do something about their wires interfering with traffic control.  There are a few intersections on 99 where in certain spots, you won'y be able to see one phase of one signal, and your example it awfully close.

Yes, this is definitely a problem around here! This is the worst example I can think of, and I think it looks even worse in person -- notice how the communications wires have taken off multiple visors.

Yeah. Who thought that was a good idea? The thing isn't even that old (2010 or so).
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ilpt4u

DOT can pay the Telecom the engineering and construction fees to Underground those lines. But otherwise, I am fairly certain the aerial lines are in the approved aerial right-of-way

TEG24601

Quote from: ilpt4u on July 06, 2020, 01:14:11 PM
DOT can pay the Telecom the engineering and construction fees to Underground those lines. But otherwise, I am fairly certain the aerial lines are in the approved aerial right-of-way


Well, Seattle City Light is the owner of the poles, and the agency in charge is largely SDOT.  So, to solve the problem, City Light replaces poles with taller versions, and requires other utilities to raise their equipment to a new minimum height in order to maintain their lease on the poles.
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Quote from: TEG24601 on July 06, 2020, 02:46:53 PM
Quote from: ilpt4u on July 06, 2020, 01:14:11 PM
DOT can pay the Telecom the engineering and construction fees to Underground those lines. But otherwise, I am fairly certain the aerial lines are in the approved aerial right-of-way


Well, Seattle City Light is the owner of the poles, and the agency in charge is largely SDOT.  So, to solve the problem, City Light replaces poles with taller versions, and requires other utilities to raise their equipment to a new minimum height in order to maintain their lease on the poles.
That is another solution, yes. But again, will need funded by the DOT. As long as the existing lines are at a legal height and in the aerial ROW, changes can and will be billed, if needed/ordered

There has to also be a clearance between Electric and Telecom on the poles, assuming the poles are Joint-Use. Multiple things at play when dealing with Telecom Outside Plant wiring that must be considered

kphoger

Quote from: ilpt4u on July 06, 2020, 02:55:20 PM

Quote from: TEG24601 on July 06, 2020, 02:46:53 PM

Quote from: ilpt4u on July 06, 2020, 01:14:11 PM
DOT can pay the Telecom the engineering and construction fees to Underground those lines. But otherwise, I am fairly certain the aerial lines are in the approved aerial right-of-way

Well, Seattle City Light is the owner of the poles, and the agency in charge is largely SDOT.  So, to solve the problem, City Light replaces poles with taller versions, and requires other utilities to raise their equipment to a new minimum height in order to maintain their lease on the poles.

That is another solution, yes. But again, will need funded by the DOT. As long as the existing lines are at a legal height and in the aerial ROW, changes can and will be billed, if needed/ordered

There has to also be a clearance between Electric and Telecom on the poles, assuming the poles are Joint-Use. Multiple things at play when dealing with Telecom Outside Plant wiring that must be considered

At that specific location, I'm not seeing telecom lines on any but the crossarm poles, to which the western strand (the one in question) is not attached.

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Quote from: jay8g on July 06, 2020, 12:24:44 AM
Quote from: TEG24601 on July 05, 2020, 05:53:27 PM
I've seen a couple of those around.  It would be nice if Seattle and surrounding communities would convince Comcast, Wave, Ziply, and Century Link to do something about their wires interfering with traffic control.  There are a few intersections on 99 where in certain spots, you won'y be able to see one phase of one signal, and your example it awfully close.

Yes, this is definitely a problem around here! This is the worst example I can think of, and I think it looks even worse in person -- notice how the communications wires have taken off multiple visors.

Which were installed first?  Seeing the reflective yellow backplates says to me that the other wiring was there first.   Transportation departments tend to be the offenders in this respect.



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