Things at a State Line That are Only Referenced in the State it is in.

[ethanhopkin14]

Inverse of this thread:

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=27524.0

These are exits or welcome centers in a state right by the state line that the neighboring state refuses to admit are there.

First example, Cavot Rd. exit on I-10 westbound in Arizona.  The exit is right by the state line, yet New Mexico used to not have an advance warning for this exit, so you cross the state line and then bang, there is an exit you didn't know about. Now, Arizona snuck into New Mexico and erected a sign, because it is 100% Arizona specs:

https://goo.gl/maps/oY82mbRj9GrPWyZ76

That imagery is from the time where there was no sign.  If you fast forward to 2019, you can see that there is now a sign, but still a good example because as you can see, this is the 1/2 mile advance sign, and it is in New Mexico, so in the old days, you got no warning and there was an exit. 

[Max Rockatansky]

Agricultural Stations in California from what I've seen are only referenced as soon as you enter California. 

[deathtopumpkins]

This is the only sign for NH Exit 1 on NB US 3. No advance signs in MA.

This is the only sign for RI Exit 30 on SB I-95. No advance signs in MA, and it seems neither state will take responsibility for this gantry. It's done to old MA standards, and it's technically on the MA side of the line, but it's south of where RIDOT takes over maintenance.

[Scott5114]

OK doesn't acknowledge exits across state lines, including I-35 exit 504 in TX. This leads to extraterritorial sign posting, like when MO entered OK to place an advance sign for I-44 exit 1.

A similar situation involving only referencing reality in one state is Oklahoma's last sign on I-44 EB being a distance sign showing 10 miles to Joplin. Missouri's first sign assembly, within sight distance of the distance sign, includes a Joplin city limit sign.

[MikieTimT]

OK doesn't acknowledge exits across state lines, including I-35 exit 504 in TX. This leads to extraterritorial sign posting, like when MO entered OK to place an advance sign for I-44 exit 1.

A similar situation involving only referencing reality in one state is Oklahoma's last sign on I-44 EB being a distance sign showing 10 miles to Joplin. Missouri's first sign assembly, within sight distance of the distance sign, includes a Joplin city limit sign.

Seems stupid and cheap.  It'd be like Missouri neglecting to put the small Toll placard above I-44 on the last westbound BGS right before the Oklahoma border.  Sure would unpleasantly surprise some out of staters to know they were sniped on a toll road if that were the case.  At least Oklahoma didn't tear the sign down that Missouri had to trespass to place.

[Scott5114]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if OTA has no clue it's there.

Anyway, it doesn't bother me that other states are posting signs in Oklahoma because Oklahoma won't do it themselves. It means that we at least get a few good signs in the state. On I-44 at the other end of the state, Texas posted their exit 14 in Oklahoma, and they posted their welcome center at US-69 exit 75 in Oklahoma as well (in the middle of Oklahoma's exit 1 sign sequence, even!)

[US 89]

Seems stupid and cheap.  It'd be like Missouri neglecting to put the small Toll placard above I-44 on the last westbound BGS right before the Oklahoma border.  Sure would unpleasantly surprise some out of staters to know they were sniped on a toll road if that were the case.

Unless Maryland has put up a sign that I'm not aware of, this happens even now on US 301 entering Delaware. Upon crossing the state line you're greeted almost immediately by a toll gantry...and it's AET, so better hope you're not driving a rental car.

[bassoon1986]

I was thinking Louisiana doesn't reference upcoming exits for the next state, but it only does in one instance. Eastbound I-20 before the Mississippi River. The first exit for Vicksburg, MS is signed from 1.5 mile out and it's definitely Louisiana's use of Clearview. Too bad exits 1A or 1B weren't for a Mississippi state highways to see how well Louisiana would have signed a circle shield.

Louisiana could stand to put a one mile exit sign for exit 635 in Texas at Waskom. It's not as close as the AZ/NM example because there is a 1/2 mile sign right as you're crossing the Texas state line.


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[sprjus4]

Seems stupid and cheap.  It'd be like Missouri neglecting to put the small Toll placard above I-44 on the last westbound BGS right before the Oklahoma border.  Sure would unpleasantly surprise some out of staters to know they were sniped on a toll road if that were the case.

Unless Maryland has put up a sign that I'm not aware of, this happens even now on US 301 entering Delaware. Upon crossing the state line you're greeted almost immediately by a toll gantry...and it's AET, so better hope you're not driving a rental car.

Maryland had a few warning signs as of last year.


Taken July 2019.

[I-55]

US-82 at the AL/MS state line doesn't have reference for the exit to Stokes Rd until after crossing into MS, at which point the exit is 1/2 mile away.

[milbfan]

US 80, going from AL to GA, the only mention of GA 85/Conn 22 is when you actually get to the exit.

https://www.google.com/maps/@32.509308,-84.9932783,3a,75y,51.74h,80.71t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s5sbc1sh5nKf5pHIMXKarPw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192