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« on: May 13, 2010, 10:23:29 PM »

post your flickr start page here if you'd like to be inter-connected with other roadgeeks who have accounts over there.

I will start, as I just created this page.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaroads-jake/
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Re: flickr pages
« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2010, 10:41:12 PM »

I have one, but I only upload certain photos:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/iccdude/
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Re: flickr pages
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Re: flickr pages
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2010, 11:52:37 PM »

Aww, these are all "All Rights Reserved".   :-(

If you want to share images on the web, don't select that one unless you're doing it for commercial purposes. That way the photos can actually be shared on the web. That's my analogy.  :)
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Re: flickr pages
« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2010, 11:53:41 PM »

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Re: flickr pages
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2010, 12:08:44 AM »

Aww, these are all "All Rights Reserved".   :-(


I'd like to find one that says "if you'd like it for non-commercial use, go ahead and yank it and set it as your desktop and/or birdcage liner - but for all commercial purposes, contact me and we can work out terms of sale".  Is that possible on flickr?
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Re: flickr pages
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2010, 12:42:48 AM »

Aww, these are all "All Rights Reserved".   :-(


I'd like to find one that says "if you'd like it for non-commercial use, go ahead and yank it and set it as your desktop and/or birdcage liner - but for all commercial purposes, contact me and we can work out terms of sale".  Is that possible on flickr?

It is.  That's how I have what few pictures I have there posted setup as.
Take a look at this one: http://www.flickr.com/photos/rickmastfan67/2755674281/

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Re: flickr pages
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2010, 12:59:40 AM »

Aww, these are all "All Rights Reserved".   :-(


I'd like to find one that says "if you'd like it for non-commercial use, go ahead and yank it and set it as your desktop and/or birdcage liner - but for all commercial purposes, contact me and we can work out terms of sale".  Is that possible on flickr?

CC-NC. If you'd like attribution at all times, CC-BY-NC.
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Re: flickr pages
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2010, 01:01:35 AM »


CC-NC. If you'd like attribution at all times, CC-BY-NC.

that makes sense, thanks!  Seeing as I have the huge versions available for download, people can yank 'em all they want.  (And if they steal them for commercial purposes, there's a good chance I'll never find out, but that is neither here nor there!)
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Re: flickr pages
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2010, 01:04:29 AM »


CC-NC. If you'd like attribution at all times, CC-BY-NC.

okay, I am not a legal eagle, which of these options reflects CC-BY-NC?

   Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike Creative Commons
   Attribution-NonCommercial Creative Commons
   Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs Creative Commons
   Attribution Creative Commons
   Attribution-ShareAlike Creative Commons
   Attribution-NoDerivs Creative Commons

those are Flickr's options.  (As for creating derivative works, I'd go by the same breakdown - go ahead and do it non-commercially, but if you want to use my image commercially, in whole or in part, then we talk.) 
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Re: flickr pages
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2010, 01:04:43 AM »


CC-NC. If you'd like attribution at all times, CC-BY-NC.

that makes sense, thanks!  Seeing as I have the huge versions available for download, people can yank 'em all they want.  (And if they steal them for commercial purposes, there's a good chance I'll never find out, but that is neither here nor there!)

Well, I never personally put my large versions online.  If somebody really wants it, they can contact me and ask me.  Depending on what they want it for and if I trust them, usually I'll provide the original version to them.  But usually, it's been good friends that ask me, and I have no problems what so ever providing the pics to them as long as I know they aren't going to use them for commercial reasons.

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Re: flickr pages
« Reply #11 on: May 14, 2010, 01:09:20 AM »


Well, I never personally put my large versions online.  If somebody really wants it, they can contact me and ask me.  Depending on what they want it for and if I trust them, usually I'll provide the original version to them.  But usually, it's been good friends that ask me, and I have no problems what so ever providing the pics to them as long as I know they aren't going to use them for commercial reasons.

The way I figure it, people who don't want to pay will either steal from me, or steal from someone else.  This way, I may get the trickle-down effect of free advertising; otherwise I get nothing at all. 
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Re: flickr pages
« Reply #12 on: May 14, 2010, 02:16:02 AM »

http://flickr.com/coredesatchikai

Most are all rights reserved. The road ones are available for use on roadgeeking sites as long as the user lets me know first. Everything else, I generally prefer the user ask me for permission first (per the disclaimer on my profile). Since I'm no longer associated with Wikipedia, I typically don't use licenses that free images up for it.
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Re: flickr pages
« Reply #13 on: May 14, 2010, 06:55:18 AM »

Close to 260,000 photos, with a few thousand more in the queue!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dougtone/

I have a Creative Commons license that just requires attribution.  Even though I'm not with Wikipedia, I don't mind my photos, especially of roads or historic buildings, to be used on Wikipedia.  My license does allow the photos to be used for commercial purposes as well, meaning that Jake could snag a photo he likes and use that as a template for an old sign he wants to make. 

One thing I do need to change on my licensing is specific for any band or event photos that I may take.  I think that I may need a little more control over those photos, for the sake of the band or the event organizers.

Also, I would recommend Flickr to everyone here, not just for posting photos, but also to leave comments on other people's photos.
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Re: flickr pages
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Re: flickr pages
« Reply #15 on: May 14, 2010, 01:27:21 PM »


CC-NC. If you'd like attribution at all times, CC-BY-NC.

okay, I am not a legal eagle, which of these options reflects CC-BY-NC?

   
   Attribution-NonCommercial Creative Commons

I snipped out the wrong choices for you. :p
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those are Flickr's options.  (As for creating derivative works, I'd go by the same breakdown - go ahead and do it non-commercially, but if you want to use my image commercially, in whole or in part, then we talk.) 

Creative Commons does not restrict you from making separate licensing arrangements. The CC licenses are merely provided as a way to grant users certain permissions without having to go through a lot of communication. As you say, you don't want your work used in certain ways but are permissive of others, so CC tries to simplify some of that. If someone wants to use your work in a way that's restricted by a CC license, he can contact you and you can negotiate a separate license.

One thing I do need to change on my licensing is specific for any band or event photos that I may take.  I think that I may need a little more control over those photos, for the sake of the band or the event organizers.

One thing that I've read on one of the Flickr groups I'm on is that external websites (through Flickr's API) can still pull images that are "all rights reserved" to display, even though photographers did not want their work to be displayed in that fashion. I've always considered the photos I've been taking lately to be more of a hobby, but I know if I ever turn pro, I'd most likely severely limit any of that work which gets posted online, and even then it would go on a website to promote the business, not on Flickr or any other third-party site.
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Re: flickr pages
« Reply #16 on: May 14, 2010, 02:22:39 PM »

Wikimedia Commons does a good job explaining copyright stuff on Flickr.

Link: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Flickr_files

Basically, only flickr images with the symbols of a person in a circle or a backwards "C" with an arrow are allowed to be used on commercial sites like Wikipedia.

 

If you got symbols like these they can't be used anywhere for the most part:


Hope that helps explaining it. Visuals are always good.  :sombrero:

My analogy is if you're uploading stuff to the net, you're releasing all rights anyways because everyone can see it, so you may as well deselect "all rights reserved". That won't stop someone from copying your image or taking a screenshot of it.
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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2010, 05:51:51 PM »

http://www.flickr.com/photos/chriszwolle/

About 19,000 pictures at the moment, from many European countries.

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« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2010, 07:08:10 PM »

What do y'all use for tagging highways in your pictures? I tend to use lowercase with no space or dash, e.g. i635, us26, ct2.

Perhaps that could be improved, and we could agree on a tag convention that helps us find all photos (at least from our sets) for a given highway.
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Re: flickr pages
« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2010, 08:40:07 PM »

My analogy is if you're uploading stuff to the net, you're releasing all rights anyways because everyone can see it, so you may as well deselect "all rights reserved". That won't stop someone from copying your image or taking a screenshot of it.

exactly.  I might not even change it from "all rights reserved".  If you're going to take one of my pictures for your own personal use, I am not ever going to find out!  So just go ahead and do it! 

"All rights reserved" hopefully will entice the more honest to simply ask me for permission, as opposed to all that Creative Commons verbiage, which will likely entice people to say "tl;dr" and move on to the next potential image to use.
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Re: flickr pages
« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2010, 09:42:41 PM »

My analogy is if you're uploading stuff to the net, you're releasing all rights anyways because everyone can see it, so you may as well deselect "all rights reserved". That won't stop someone from copying your image or taking a screenshot of it.

exactly.  I might not even change it from "all rights reserved".  If you're going to take one of my pictures for your own personal use, I am not ever going to find out!  So just go ahead and do it! 

"All rights reserved" hopefully will entice the more honest to simply ask me for permission, as opposed to all that Creative Commons verbiage, which will likely entice people to say "tl;dr" and move on to the next potential image to use.

True, it's really how you look at it. Net neutrality isn't exactly as neutral as it seems as people tend to lean one way or another.

In the perfect internet utopia, anyone would be able to do whatever they want. In the real world we have things like passwords and licensing agreements to prevent others from accessing our digital beings, committing financial or identity theft. It doesn't always work, but it is a good safeguard next to no protection at all.

You make a good point, you could always contact the creator. It may not be as fast as simply grabbing it, but it's the more, shall I say, humane thing to do.
-Problem is if the author never contacts you, or if they say no. But that's life I guess.

Anyways, back to the photos. Nice work everyone!  19,000 photos Chris? That's crazy!  :-P Took a look the ones on your first page and they look good!
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« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2010, 09:58:32 PM »

In the perfect internet utopia, anyone would be able to do whatever they want.

I'm kinda hoping that in the perfect internet utopia, people are not able to do whatever they want!  I rather like my bank balance not zeroed out!  :-D

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« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2010, 10:44:49 PM »

Over 13k photos (hockey, roadtrips, small towns, ballgames, more hockey, hiking trips, just about anywhere I go).

http://www.flickr.com/photos/15530177@N05/sets/
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