What do you Count/Not Count When Clinching?

[Rothman]

I count a scenic overlook as part of clinch as it is there for a reason.

What isn't there for a reason?

[kphoger]

I count a scenic overlook as part of clinch as it is there for a reason.

What isn't there for a reason?

Scenic views/overlooks that aren't particularly scenic^[1]?

I can't remember where exactly, but I also remember a "scenic view" sign somewhere in southwestern Kansas that's basically just a view of a wind farm on flatlands.

[Scott5114]

I mean, it's not a particularly ugly view either. You and I are used to western Kansas/Oklahoma views, but not everyone is–I'd imagine someone like webny99 would find that view stupendous.

[Rothman]

I count a scenic overlook as part of clinch as it is there for a reason.

What isn't there for a reason?

Scenic views/overlooks that aren't particularly scenic^[1]?

I can't remember where exactly, but I also remember a "scenic view" sign somewhere in southwestern Kansas that's basically just a view of a wind farm on flatlands.

I wasn't asking you.

[Roadgeekteen]

For international borders, I would count turning around at the last exit.

[webny99]

What isn't there for a reason?

Scenic views/overlooks that aren't particularly scenic^[1]?

I can't remember where exactly, but I also remember a "scenic view" sign somewhere in southwestern Kansas that's basically just a view of a wind farm on flatlands.

I mean, it's not a particularly ugly view either. You and I are used to western Kansas/Oklahoma views, but not everyone is–I'd imagine someone like webny99 would find that view stupendous.

(Is this bait? I'm not sure. But anyways, here goes...)

Stupendous is a stretch, but it is very different than what I'm used to (hilly compared to North Dakota! ), and I certainly wouldn't rule out pulling in there should I ever find myself in Dodge City.

When I read kphoger's post and clicked on the link, what immediately came to mind was this "scenic overlook" on I-90 in South Dakota. But not in a bad way, though - in fact, in a great way: When visiting the Badlands a few years ago, we happened to be passing right by that spot just as the sun was coming up, before 5 AM on a July morning. It couldn't have been a more perfect spot to pull in and watch the sunrise. It was one of the most unique and beautiful sunrises I've ever witnessed, in a part of the country I'd never been before, and an atmosphere I'll never forget, with miles and miles of endless prairie and hay bales and grazing bison spread out before us. I decided right then and there never to snub a "scenic overlook" again, and I hope many more first-time visitors to South Dakota get to experience exactly what we did.

[tq-07fan]

Once in the gate area, I need to buy something like a drink or food in the terminal.

Better have receipts!

Receipts or it didn't happen!

The only way I know I have been in Benton Harbor Michigan was the receipt from the meal stop from when I rode the overnight Greyhound from Detroit to Chicago. I was asleep before, after and during the meal stop.

I count a scenic overlook as part of clinch as it is there for a reason.

What isn't there for a reason?

Scenic views/overlooks that aren't particularly scenic^[1]?

I can't remember where exactly, but I also remember a "scenic view" sign somewhere in southwestern Kansas that's basically just a view of a wind farm on flatlands.

Cool! Now I have something else to add to my trip to Kansas!

Jim

[Avalanchez71]

I almost feel like not visiting a scenic overlook almost kills the clinch.

[kphoger]

I count a scenic overlook as part of clinch as it is there for a reason.

What isn't there for a reason?

Scenic views/overlooks that aren't particularly scenic^[1]?

I can't remember where exactly, but I also remember a "scenic view" sign somewhere in southwestern Kansas that's basically just a view of a wind farm on flatlands.

I wasn't asking you.

I was answering you.  Next time, whisper so other people can't hear.

I almost feel like not visiting a scenic overlook almost kills the clinch.

Now, that actually makes just as much sense as the opposing viewpoint.

[Rothman]

I count a scenic overlook as part of clinch as it is there for a reason.

What isn't there for a reason?

Scenic views/overlooks that aren't particularly scenic^[1]?

I can't remember where exactly, but I also remember a "scenic view" sign somewhere in southwestern Kansas that's basically just a view of a wind farm on flatlands.

I wasn't asking you.

I was answering you.  Next time, whisper so other people can't hear.

Next time don't interrupt a conversation.

[Rothman]

I almost feel like not visiting a scenic overlook almost kills the clinch.

But what doesn't serve a purpose?

[formulanone]

I wasn't asking you.

Seriously, I didn't get the full meaning of the response, either.

I've pulled over at a few scenic overlooks that were so overgrown with weeds and brush which obscured anything interesting, but usually there's something to them.

[kphoger]

What isn't there for a reason?

Male nipples?

[Avalanchez71]

So what is the consensus on the scenic overlook question?  Does pulling off for the overlook kill a route clinch?

[NWI_Irish96]

So what is the consensus on the scenic overlook question?  Does pulling off for the overlook kill a route clinch?

For me, if I can see the point where I get back on from where I get off due to an exit ramp, gas station, restaurant, scenic overlook, or anything else, I do not consider it to be killing a clinch.

[kphoger]

So what is the consensus on the scenic overlook question?  Does pulling off for the overlook kill a route clinch?

The thread is about what you count or not count.  I don't think the goal is to have a consensus on anything.

[US 89]

So what is the consensus on the scenic overlook question?  Does pulling off for the overlook kill a route clinch?

For me, if I can see the point where I get back on from where I get off due to an exit ramp, gas station, restaurant, scenic overlook, or anything else, I do not consider it to be killing a clinch.

This. If I got anal about missing a few hundred feet of highway because I pulled off for a great view I'd be missing the point of clinching in the first place. I don't clinch roads just to fill in lines on a map - I do it to see new places.

[hbelkins]

So what is the consensus on the scenic overlook question?  Does pulling off for the overlook kill a route clinch?

Not in my book. Neither does exiting for gas, food, or restrooms if you get back on at the same interchange. But at least one poster upthread says it does for him.

[Rothman]

So what is the consensus on the scenic overlook question?  Does pulling off for the overlook kill a route clinch?

Yes.

[Roadgeekteen]

So what is the consensus on the scenic overlook question?  Does pulling off for the overlook kill a route clinch?

no

[1995hoo]

So what is the consensus on the scenic overlook question?  Does pulling off for the overlook kill a route clinch?

If you think it does, then it does for you.

[Rothman]

So what is the consensus on the scenic overlook question?  Does pulling off for the overlook kill a route clinch?

If you think it does, then it does for you.

If I think it kills the clinch, it kills it for everyone.

[kphoger]

So what is the consensus on the scenic overlook question?  Does pulling off for the overlook kill a route clinch?

If you think it does, then it does for you.

If I think it kills the clinch, it kills it for everyone.

If |1995hoo| thinks it doesn't kill the clinch, it completes it for everyone.

[Rothman]

So what is the consensus on the scenic overlook question?  Does pulling off for the overlook kill a route clinch?

If you think it does, then it does for you.

If I think it kills the clinch, it kills it for everyone.

If |1995hoo| thinks it doesn't kill the clinch, it completes it for everyone.

Delusions of grandeur.

[kphoger]

If I think it kills the clinch, it kills it for everyone.

Delusions of grandeur.

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