Interstate 15 north of Barstow to the State Line

[Scott5114]

One thing I haven't seen mentioned on here is that this stretch of I-15 has some of the most hideous Interstate reassurance shields I've ever seen. Some of them are bad enough I think even Oklahoma would have sent them back.

Also, going southbound, Yates Well Road seems to have grown at least one additional well, at the price of yates—it's signed for "Yate Wells Road".

[cl94]

The other thing here is that California isn't going to pay to widen a road whose volume is people going to spend money in Nevada. I-15 north of Barstow holds minimal importance to California and the state has much higher widening priorities (SR 99 in the Central Valley, the remaining 2-lane section of SR 14, etc.).

[Max Rockatansky]

The other thing here is that California isn't going to pay to widen a road whose volume is people going to spend money in Nevada. I-15 north of Barstow holds minimal importance to California and the state has much higher widening priorities (SR 99 in the Central Valley, the remaining 2-lane section of SR 14, etc.).

The irony is that I don't think that California will be able to stave off the potential bad will that making all of this a "safety thing" can create.  I'm honestly surprised that interests in Nevada haven't been pushing that narrative with more force. 

[Scott5114]

The other thing here is that California isn't going to pay to widen a road whose volume is people going to spend money in Nevada. I-15 north of Barstow holds minimal importance to California and the state has much higher widening priorities (SR 99 in the Central Valley, the remaining 2-lane section of SR 14, etc.).

I wonder where California thinks Las Vegans go on vacation.

[DenverBrian]

The other thing here is that California isn't going to pay to widen a road whose volume is people going to spend money in Nevada. I-15 north of Barstow holds minimal importance to California and the state has much higher widening priorities (SR 99 in the Central Valley, the remaining 2-lane section of SR 14, etc.).

I wonder where California thinks Las Vegans go on vacation.

It's a reverse commute in that situation, and traffic flow is usually just fine with two lanes. 

[cl94]

The other thing here is that California isn't going to pay to widen a road whose volume is people going to spend money in Nevada. I-15 north of Barstow holds minimal importance to California and the state has much higher widening priorities (SR 99 in the Central Valley, the remaining 2-lane section of SR 14, etc.).

The irony is that I don't think that California will be able to stave off the potential bad will that making all of this a "safety thing" can create.  I'm honestly surprised that interests in Nevada haven't been pushing that narrative with more force. 

And California would probably push right back with US 50 at Lake Tahoe in that case (deadlier than I-15), which those same interests have blocked safety improvements on.

(Personal opinion strongly emphasized)

[Max Rockatansky]

The other thing here is that California isn't going to pay to widen a road whose volume is people going to spend money in Nevada. I-15 north of Barstow holds minimal importance to California and the state has much higher widening priorities (SR 99 in the Central Valley, the remaining 2-lane section of SR 14, etc.).

The irony is that I don't think that California will be able to stave off the potential bad will that making all of this a "safety thing" can create.  I'm honestly surprised that interests in Nevada haven't been pushing that narrative with more force. 

And California would probably push right back with US 50 at Lake Tahoe in that case (deadlier than I-15), which those same interests have blocked safety improvements on.

(Personal opinion strongly emphasized)

Possibly, but one corridor has a way more visible profile (I-15) in the public consciousness versus the other. 

[ClassicHasClass]

The other thing here is that California isn't going to pay to widen a road whose volume is people going to spend money in Nevada. I-15 north of Barstow holds minimal importance to California and the state has much higher widening priorities (SR 99 in the Central Valley, the remaining 2-lane section of SR 14, etc.).

I wonder where California thinks Las Vegans go on vacation.

Henderson?

[Max Rockatansky]

The other thing here is that California isn't going to pay to widen a road whose volume is people going to spend money in Nevada. I-15 north of Barstow holds minimal importance to California and the state has much higher widening priorities (SR 99 in the Central Valley, the remaining 2-lane section of SR 14, etc.).

I wonder where California thinks Las Vegans go on vacation.

Henderson?

Where do they actually go?  Most tourists I encounter in northern Arizona and southern Utah seemingly come from California.

[Bobby5280]

One thing I haven't seen mentioned on here is that this stretch of I-15 has some of the most hideous Interstate reassurance shields I've ever seen. Some of them are bad enough I think even Oklahoma would have sent them back.

I have lots of complaints for design goof-ups ODOT and OTA do with their signs, but their Interstate reassurance signs haven't been too awful bad.

But, yeah, some of the I-15 route markers in places like Baker are just awful. They're copying the TX DOT habit of using a wider 3-digit Interstate shield for a 2-digit route. But then the "15" numerals are made so damned big they don't fit in the shield correctly -especially when they include "California" above the numerals. The "1" is damned near in the center of the shield and the "5" is too far to the right. Both numerals are kerned tight because there isn't enough room to loosen the spacing. The end result looks stupid as hell.

This is the kind of bullshit that happens when non-designer bean-counters are dictating design specs without any regard to geometric limits. If the "managers" think they're getting a more effective sign with this crap they're not. The sign would actually be more legible if the numerals were smaller and allowed to have more negative space surrounding them. Of course, they should be using a 2-digit shield for starters.

Some of those dopey I-15 markers (as seen in Google Street View) are in bad shape. There's one Northbound just past the on-ramp at Exit 246 where the "5" has partially peeled off the sign.