__________ is/are overrated.

[bugo]

I don't care. You are one person. Your single story is not evidence - if it was, I could refute it by saying that I personally have noticed my attention span decreasing since I started getting sucked into YouTube Shorts.

Do you have any evidence that Tik Tok is causing latent cases of ADHD? I don't care about your personal experience either, I want cold, hard facts.

[thspfc]

I don't care. You are one person. Your single story is not evidence - if it was, I could refute it by saying that I personally have noticed my attention span decreasing since I started getting sucked into YouTube Shorts.

Do you have any evidence that Tik Tok is causing latent cases of ADHD? I don't care about your personal experience either, I want cold, hard facts.

To clarify, I don't believe that TikTok is causing a rise in legitimate ADHD cases. What it is doing is shortening peoples' attention spans, causing ADHD-like symptoms.

I'll start with this . . .

https://www.theoxfordblue.co.uk/tiktok-and-the-death-of-the-attention-span/?amp=1#

https://socialmediapsychology.eu/2022/08/18/tiktok-is-killing-your-brain-right-now/

https://www.sciencetimes.com/articles/34138/20211025/tiktok-bad-brain-constant-social-media-streaming-narrows-collective-attention.htm

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbesagencycouncil/2022/08/05/tick-tock-and-tiktok-shorter-attention-spans-and-the-consumer-market/?sh=439032a93ec8

https://medium.com/digital-reflections/tiktok-effect-on-attention-span-12211b0a06a1

https://www.medindia.net/amp/news/is-tiktok-affecting-kids-attention-span-206637-1.htm

https://www.pendulummag.com/business/2023/6/29/social-media-3-ways-tiktok-has-altered-your-day-to-day-behaviour-and-reduced-your-attention-span?format=amp

https://www.verywellhealth.com/tiktok-brain-5225664

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/04/190415081959.htm

https://amp.theguardian.com/society/2019/apr/16/got-a-minute-global-attention-span-is-narrowing-study-reveals

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/science-and-health/2019/5/3/18514330/distraction-collective-attention-research

[GaryV]

Sesame Street has been blamed for shortening kids' attention spans in school. The quick-bang, lesson taught in seconds mode of learning was something brand new.

Now whether Sesame Street actually caused that, or if it only reflected what kids learning style really is, that's another question.

[Scott5114]

I wonder why so many people are diagnosing themselves with ADHD nowadays . . .

I've been on this forum long enough to know that the response to this is going to be "well my attention span is just fine!"  Don't even bother. Studies, surveys, and clear resulting effects of decreased attention span since short-form video has taken over show that this absolutely is a real thing regardless of what your personal experience reflects.

You've got it backward–people have the attention span problems first, then gravitate toward TikTok because it complements the way their mind works.

I'm sure that's true for many people, but it's quite obvious that an overall decrease in attention spans has occurred since the explosion of short form video.

Correlation doesn't imply causation.

I don't care.

Why would you bother to post on a web forum if you don't care what the other users on it have to say? If that's the case, scroll past the post without reading it. Posting about how much you don't care just takes up screen space that ought to be used for something useful. It's a waste of your time and everyone else's.

[formulanone]

Sesame Street has been blamed for shortening kids' attention spans in school. The quick-bang, lesson taught in seconds mode of learning was something brand new.

Now whether Sesame Street actually caused that, or if it only reflected what kids learning style really is, that's another question.

Though the lens of an older child onwards, it seems like fluff. But there wasn't anything educational on television in much of a widespread basis 50+ years ago. Without a doubt, Sesame Street had a net positive effect on society; there were millions of parents with no access to daycare or pre-kindergarten educational facilities, the parents had limited educational backgrounds, or they had no time to educate kids from the ages of 1-6. This gave children a head start or a grounding in reading, phonics, and mathematics which they probably would not have received otherwise until entering elementary school.

From the beginning, selling the idea to TV networks took years because they didn't see the value of it, and required some seriously deep philanthropic pockets. For some teachers, it probably did mean they had to change some educational styles, but this is something school systems and teachers have to go through every couple of years and cannot always use the same methods which they may have been using for decades.

I have limited to zero interest in TikTok and other short-form video; I don't like to "view" what I could just read, don't need misleading titles, don't need to give kudos to overblown opinions disguised as "fact", and generally prefer still photography.

[bugo]

I'm suddenly getting flashbacks to the 1980s when all the adults told me Nintendo and MTV was rotting my brain.  The more things change in the world the more they stay the same I suppose.

Speaking of rotten brains in the 1980s, does anybody remember the Satanic panic? I grew up in a hyper-Christian small town in the South, and heavy metal music was pure evil. Ozzy Osbourne was the devil himself, and Motley Crue were evil incarnate. If they had heard Mercyful Fate or Venom, it would have blown their minds. I was always fascinated with the occult, and I eventually started listening to metal, and I still listen to it to this day. I have never believed in Satan or the devil or religion of any kind, but I have always been subversive, and I drew pentagrams on my notebooks at school just to freak the other kids out. I think some of them were scared of me. I had a Motley Crue shirt with 7 pentagrams on the back. I had long dark hair and wore black metal shirts, and everybody hated me. I was profiled for years because of the way I looked. Every time I went into Walmart, a plainclothes security officer would follow me around the store the entire time I was in there. Most of those religious kooks are gone now and Ozzy is a lovable buffoonish grandfatherly figure, but some of the older generations still think Dokken is a Satanic band.

[Max Rockatansky]

I'm suddenly getting flashbacks to the 1980s when all the adults told me Nintendo and MTV was rotting my brain.  The more things change in the world the more they stay the same I suppose.

Speaking of rotten brains in the 1980s, does anybody remember the Satanic panic? I grew up in a hyper-Christian small town in the South, and heavy metal music was pure evil. Ozzy Osbourne was the devil himself, and Motley Crue were evil incarnate. If they had heard Mercyful Fate or Venom, it would have blown their minds. I was always fascinated with the occult, and I eventually started listening to metal, and I still listen to it to this day. I have never believed in Satan or the devil or religion of any kind, but I have always been subversive, and I drew pentagrams on my notebooks at school just to freak the other kids out. I think some of them were scared of me. I had a Motley Crue shirt with 7 pentagrams on the back. I had long dark hair and wore black metal shirts, and everybody hated me. I was profiled for years because of the way I looked. Every time I went into Walmart, a plainclothes security officer would follow me around the store the entire time I was in there. Most of those religious kooks are gone now and Ozzy is a lovable buffoonish grandfatherly figure, but some of the older generations still think Dokken is a Satanic band.

I do, specifically I remember Dungeons & Dragons somehow being lumped into somehow being Satanic. 

[Big John]

I'm suddenly getting flashbacks to the 1980s when all the adults told me Nintendo and MTV was rotting my brain.  The more things change in the world the more they stay the same I suppose.

Speaking of rotten brains in the 1980s, does anybody remember the Satanic panic? I grew up in a hyper-Christian small town in the South, and heavy metal music was pure evil. Ozzy Osbourne was the devil himself, and Motley Crue were evil incarnate. If they had heard Mercyful Fate or Venom, it would have blown their minds. I was always fascinated with the occult, and I eventually started listening to metal, and I still listen to it to this day. I have never believed in Satan or the devil or religion of any kind, but I have always been subversive, and I drew pentagrams on my notebooks at school just to freak the other kids out. I think some of them were scared of me. I had a Motley Crue shirt with 7 pentagrams on the back. I had long dark hair and wore black metal shirts, and everybody hated me. I was profiled for years because of the way I looked. Every time I went into Walmart, a plainclothes security officer would follow me around the store the entire time I was in there. Most of those religious kooks are gone now and Ozzy is a lovable buffoonish grandfatherly figure, but some of the older generations still think Dokken is a Satanic band.

I do, specifically I remember Dungeons & Dragons somehow being lumped into somehow being Satanic. 

I saw a report that rolling dice is prohibited in some extreme religions as they considered it demonic.

[Scott5114]

The Satanic Panic was just a mass movement of "People like something I don't understand, and I'm too lazy to try to figure it out, so I'm just going to call it immoral or evil so I don't have to." People still do the same shit today, it's just that instead of it being dice games or music genres, it's...well, you know.

[Rothman]

Stranger Things made more out of the panic than there was...so, the panic was overrated.

[mgk920]

Stranger Things made more out of the panic than there was...so, the panic was overrated.

The Bug™ of a few short years ago was DEFINITELY overrated, for what it really was.

Mike

[Scott5114]

Stranger Things made more out of the panic than there was...so, the panic was overrated.

Depends on where in the country you were. If you were comparing it to 1980s Oklahoma, they probably undersold it, actually. (Don't forget that Footloose
was based on the true story of Elmore City, Oklahoma in 1980.)

The Bug™ of a few short years ago was DEFINITELY overrated, for what it really was.

Mike

Yeah, Y2K was definitely overrated.

[JKRhodes]

Not coming through 58 pages for duplicate. Apologies if the following has already been discussed:

White Castle sliders

[Rothman]

Stranger Things made more out of the panic than there was...so, the panic was overrated.

The Bug[emoji769] of a few short years ago was DEFINITELY overrated, for what it really was.

Mike

Which one?

[Rothman]

Out of left field, but Schoodic Peninsula of Acadia National Park has become overrated.  Yes, it's less visited and a nice place with fascinating geology, but from some travel writers you'd think the place was Valhalla.  No, it is not on the same level as the top of the Fin in Zion, Lake MacDonald in Glacier or the Grand Prismatic Spring in Yellowstone...

[TheHighwayMan3561]

Out of left field, but Schoodic Peninsula of Acadia National Park has become overrated.  Yes, it's less visited and a nice place with fascinating geology, but from some travel writers you'd think the place was Valhalla.  No, it is not on the same level as the top of the Fin in Zion, Lake MacDonald in Glacier or the Grand Prismatic Spring in Yellowstone...

Perhaps, but it has one thing those other three don't: the ocean. That scores points with people.

[Bruce]

Out of left field, but Schoodic Peninsula of Acadia National Park has become overrated.  Yes, it's less visited and a nice place with fascinating geology, but from some travel writers you'd think the place was Valhalla.  No, it is not on the same level as the top of the Fin in Zion, Lake MacDonald in Glacier or the Grand Prismatic Spring in Yellowstone...

I found Lake MacDonald to be a bit boring compared to the other sights on Going-to-the-Sun Road. It doesn't have a unique quality that makes it stand out compared to similar lakes in other alpine areas around the Northwest.

[formulanone]

Stranger Things made more out of the panic than there was...so, the panic was overrated.

The Bug[emoji769] of a few short years ago was DEFINITELY overrated, for what it really was.

Mike

Which one?

The one caused by...

Not coming through 58 pages for duplicate. Apologies if the following has already been discussed:

White Castle sliders

[Rothman]

Out of left field, but Schoodic Peninsula of Acadia National Park has become overrated.  Yes, it's less visited and a nice place with fascinating geology, but from some travel writers you'd think the place was Valhalla.  No, it is not on the same level as the top of the Fin in Zion, Lake MacDonald in Glacier or the Grand Prismatic Spring in Yellowstone...

Perhaps, but it has one thing those other three don't: the ocean. That scores points with people.

So does Mount Desert Island, the main section of the park...

[mgk920]

Stranger Things made more out of the panic than there was...so, the panic was overrated.

The Bug[emoji769] of a few short years ago was DEFINITELY overrated, for what it really was.

Mike

Which one?

That one where the politicians shut us all down for no reason at all.

Mike

[hotdogPi]

You mean to save millions of lives? Keep in mind that the case fatality ratio was highest during the first two months before we knew what treatments worked (I'm referring to treatments after getting sick, not the vaccine which came later).

It was all convenient for an election to happen at that particular moment in time.

There were eight months between when everything shut down (March) and the general election (November). In addition, if COVID-19 had happened one year earlier, the 2020 election would still have been during COVID, as real-life 2021 was also during the pandemic.

[roadman65]

The Covid thing was definitely overrated.   Though not claiming to be a fan of Donald Trump, I think there was nothing to downplay.

It was all convenient for an election to happen at that particular moment in time.

[formulanone]

At the risk of a sudden ad hominem attack, this thread may contain traces of nuts.

[roadman65]

I think we're all nuts.

[hobsini2]

And now for something completely different...
Rush is overrated. That's right. I said it. What drags them down to not being a great rock back in my opinion is Geddy Lee's vocals. He sounds like someone is squeezing his nutsack. Nails on a chalkboard to me. Musically, they are a great band but the vocals just kill them in my eyes.