__________ is/are overrated.

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Wait. Whoa. Hold on a second.

Dokken is satanic?

And I saw a "Sesame Street" reference upthread so I'm waiting for Tim's take on it.
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Big John

Quote from: hobsini2 on July 24, 2023, 11:57:01 AM
And now for something completely different...
Rush is overrated. That's right. I said it. What drags them down to not being a great rock back in my opinion is Geddy Lee's vocals. He sounds like someone is squeezing his nutsack. Nails on a chalkboard to me. Musically, they are a great band but the vocals just kill them in my eyes.


A certain poster here disagrees: https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=1201

mgk920

SAG-Aftra and the WGA are showing us all how definitely overrated they are in today's world.

Mike

Rothman

Quote from: mgk920 on July 25, 2023, 11:02:17 AM
SAG-Aftra and the WGA are showing us all how definitely overrated they are in today's world.

Mike
Although I have my doubts about the strike, it does raise the question as to what labor can do when AI comes a-knockin' for their jobs or appearances.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

mgk920

Quote from: Rothman on July 25, 2023, 11:19:36 AM
Quote from: mgk920 on July 25, 2023, 11:02:17 AM
SAG-Aftra and the WGA are showing us all how definitely overrated they are in today's world.

Mike
Although I have my doubts about the strike, it does raise the question as to what labor can do when AI comes a-knockin' for their jobs or appearances.

The entertainment industry has NEVER been welcoming to advances in technology.  The fall of the Big Bands and the rise of country music in the late 1940s and early 1950s was the direct result of a musicians union strike, the main issues being new technology (the introduction of coin-op jukeboxes and hi-fidelity records and players).  Heck, even the sheet music publishers took the makers of pneumatic 'layer' pianos to federal court around the turn of the 19th to the 20th centuries, too (the USSupremes sided with the piano makers).

Mike

thspfc

Quote from: Scott5114 on July 22, 2023, 06:56:14 AM
Quote from: thspfc on July 21, 2023, 08:57:48 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 21, 2023, 07:07:54 PM
Quote from: thspfc on July 21, 2023, 04:26:09 PM
I wonder why so many people are diagnosing themselves with ADHD nowadays . . .

I've been on this forum long enough to know that the response to this is going to be "well my attention span is just fine!"  Don't even bother. Studies, surveys, and clear resulting effects of decreased attention span since short-form video has taken over show that this absolutely is a real thing regardless of what your personal experience reflects.

You've got it backward–people have the attention span problems first, then gravitate toward TikTok because it complements the way their mind works.
I'm sure that's true for many people, but it's quite obvious that an overall decrease in attention spans has occurred since the explosion of short form video.

Correlation doesn't imply causation.

Quote from: thspfc on July 21, 2023, 08:57:48 PM
I don't care.

Why would you bother to post on a web forum if you don't care what the other users on it have to say? If that's the case, scroll past the post without reading it. Posting about how much you don't care just takes up screen space that ought to be used for something useful. It's a waste of your time and everyone else's.
It's not that I don't care what anyone else has to say; it's that a single personal anecdote is irrelevant as evidence for or against a larger point.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: thspfc on July 25, 2023, 03:48:15 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 22, 2023, 06:56:14 AM
Quote from: thspfc on July 21, 2023, 08:57:48 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 21, 2023, 07:07:54 PM
Quote from: thspfc on July 21, 2023, 04:26:09 PM
I wonder why so many people are diagnosing themselves with ADHD nowadays . . .

I've been on this forum long enough to know that the response to this is going to be "well my attention span is just fine!"  Don't even bother. Studies, surveys, and clear resulting effects of decreased attention span since short-form video has taken over show that this absolutely is a real thing regardless of what your personal experience reflects.

You've got it backward–people have the attention span problems first, then gravitate toward TikTok because it complements the way their mind works.
I'm sure that's true for many people, but it's quite obvious that an overall decrease in attention spans has occurred since the explosion of short form video.

Correlation doesn't imply causation.

Quote from: thspfc on July 21, 2023, 08:57:48 PM
I don't care.

Why would you bother to post on a web forum if you don't care what the other users on it have to say? If that's the case, scroll past the post without reading it. Posting about how much you don't care just takes up screen space that ought to be used for something useful. It's a waste of your time and everyone else's.
It's not that I don't care what anyone else has to say; it's that a single personal anecdote is irrelevant as evidence for or against a larger point.

In all those links you posted, how many of them actually contain credible medical research?  Sure, several of the website names sound "science-like,"  but that doesn't necessarily mean they are.  Why you're choosing TikTok borne ADHD as a hill to die I don't quite understand. 

bm7

Quote from: hobsini2 on July 24, 2023, 11:57:01 AM
And now for something completely different...
Rush is overrated. That's right. I said it. What drags them down to not being a great rock back in my opinion is Geddy Lee's vocals. He sounds like someone is squeezing his nutsack. Nails on a chalkboard to me. Musically, they are a great band but the vocals just kill them in my eyes.
I feel this way about most rock bands from the 70s/80s, they have the same annoying high-pitched singing style and I can't stand it most of the time. It's unfortunate because I agree they're great musically, but I'd need to listen to instrumental/cover versions. That said I did enjoy one of their last albums, Vapor Trails, I'd recommend giving it a listen.

kurumi

Maybe it's the time I grew up in, but I'll always remember Rush's winning streak fondly (2112, Farewell to Kings, Hemispheres, Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures, Signals... and maybe Grace Under Pressure). Before that, they were not yet in Their Final Form; and afterward, the same mid-1980s tide that washed out Genesis, Yes, Heart, etc. also got to them.

I think their being a power trio helped if you were a prog fan that was also in an (amateur) band: the bass, guitar, or keyboard parts stood out more clearly, and you could try your hand at playing them by ear. I don't remember any of us trying to hit Geddy's high notes, though.
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hobsini2

Quote from: kurumi on July 25, 2023, 09:13:32 PM
Maybe it's the time I grew up in, but I'll always remember Rush's winning streak fondly (2112, Farewell to Kings, Hemispheres, Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures, Signals... and maybe Grace Under Pressure). Before that, they were not yet in Their Final Form; and afterward, the same mid-1980s tide that washed out Genesis, Yes, Heart, etc. also got to them.

I think their being a power trio helped if you were a prog fan that was also in an (amateur) band: the bass, guitar, or keyboard parts stood out more clearly, and you could try your hand at playing them by ear. I don't remember any of us trying to hit Geddy's high notes, though.
The one song of theirs that I do like even the vocals on was one that came out on the Test for Echo album called "Half the World". If Rush sounded like that more often, then I would be good with them.
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thspfc

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on July 25, 2023, 03:57:06 PM
In all those links you posted, how many of them actually contain credible medical research?  Sure, several of the website names sound "science-like,"  but that doesn't necessarily mean they are.
Most of them at least reference scientific findings.

QuoteWhy you're choosing TikTok borne ADHD as a hill to die I don't quite understand.
I'm not. I misspoke earlier.

Quote from: thspfc on July 22, 2023, 06:28:57 AM
To clarify, I don't believe that TikTok is causing a rise in legitimate ADHD cases. What it is doing is shortening peoples' attention spans, causing ADHD-like symptoms.

Otto Yamamoto



The Bug[emoji769] of a few short years ago was DEFINITELY overrated, for what it really was.

Mike
[/quote]Which one?
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That one where the politicians shut us all down for no reason at all.

Mike
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Yeah, 40 residents in my nursing home died of that, as well as a number of people I know. More than a few co workers and friends had it, some more than once. My sister(also a nurse) has had it twice. Glad to know it was 'nothing'.

JKRhodes

Quote from: formulanone on July 24, 2023, 04:13:19 AM
Quote from: Rothman on July 23, 2023, 10:46:09 PM
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Quote from: Rothman on July 23, 2023, 07:22:28 PM
Stranger Things made more out of the panic than there was...so, the panic was overrated.

The Bug[emoji769] of a few short years ago was DEFINITELY overrated, for what it really was.

Mike
Which one?

The one caused by...

Quote from: JKRhodes on July 23, 2023, 07:51:46 PM
Not coming through 58 pages for duplicate. Apologies if the following has already been discussed:

White Castle sliders

Hate that I got dragged into the COVID spat over my comment that had nothing to do, but since I did, I'll just say...

Had several friends, relatives, acquaintances whom I might ask if the virus was overrated... except they're dead now... from the virus.

That as many people are still around, with some bitching about the way it was handled, is a testament to success off the worldwide effort to mitigate its effects.

Scott5114

Quote from: thspfc on July 25, 2023, 03:48:15 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 22, 2023, 06:56:14 AM
Quote from: thspfc on July 21, 2023, 08:57:48 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 21, 2023, 07:07:54 PM
Quote from: thspfc on July 21, 2023, 04:26:09 PM
I wonder why so many people are diagnosing themselves with ADHD nowadays . . .

I've been on this forum long enough to know that the response to this is going to be "well my attention span is just fine!"  Don't even bother. Studies, surveys, and clear resulting effects of decreased attention span since short-form video has taken over show that this absolutely is a real thing regardless of what your personal experience reflects.

You've got it backward–people have the attention span problems first, then gravitate toward TikTok because it complements the way their mind works.
I'm sure that's true for many people, but it's quite obvious that an overall decrease in attention spans has occurred since the explosion of short form video.

Correlation doesn't imply causation.

Quote from: thspfc on July 21, 2023, 08:57:48 PM
I don't care.

Why would you bother to post on a web forum if you don't care what the other users on it have to say? If that's the case, scroll past the post without reading it. Posting about how much you don't care just takes up screen space that ought to be used for something useful. It's a waste of your time and everyone else's.
It's not that I don't care what anyone else has to say; it's that a single personal anecdote is irrelevant as evidence for or against a larger point.

It's called socialization by sharing one's personal experiences.

Have you ever considered that web forums may not be for you?
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Max Rockatansky

Quote from: Scott5114 on August 07, 2023, 07:02:31 PM
Quote from: thspfc on July 25, 2023, 03:48:15 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 22, 2023, 06:56:14 AM
Quote from: thspfc on July 21, 2023, 08:57:48 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 21, 2023, 07:07:54 PM
Quote from: thspfc on July 21, 2023, 04:26:09 PM
I wonder why so many people are diagnosing themselves with ADHD nowadays . . .

I've been on this forum long enough to know that the response to this is going to be "well my attention span is just fine!"  Don't even bother. Studies, surveys, and clear resulting effects of decreased attention span since short-form video has taken over show that this absolutely is a real thing regardless of what your personal experience reflects.

You've got it backward–people have the attention span problems first, then gravitate toward TikTok because it complements the way their mind works.
I'm sure that's true for many people, but it's quite obvious that an overall decrease in attention spans has occurred since the explosion of short form video.

Correlation doesn't imply causation.

Quote from: thspfc on July 21, 2023, 08:57:48 PM
I don't care.

Why would you bother to post on a web forum if you don't care what the other users on it have to say? If that's the case, scroll past the post without reading it. Posting about how much you don't care just takes up screen space that ought to be used for something useful. It's a waste of your time and everyone else's.
It's not that I don't care what anyone else has to say; it's that a single personal anecdote is irrelevant as evidence for or against a larger point.

It's called socialization by sharing one's personal experiences.

Have you ever considered that web forums may not be for you?

This was more of an example of someone getting backed into a corner regarding their anecdotal/unqualified medical diagnosis.  Linking the top of the Google search history for cherry picked causality tends be the last gasp of a dying argument that met unexpected challenge.

Scott5114

In any event, given the other direction this thread is turning at the same time...

uncontrollable freak sardine salad chef

thspfc

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 07, 2023, 07:05:29 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on August 07, 2023, 07:02:31 PM
Quote from: thspfc on July 25, 2023, 03:48:15 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 22, 2023, 06:56:14 AM
Quote from: thspfc on July 21, 2023, 08:57:48 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on July 21, 2023, 07:07:54 PM
Quote from: thspfc on July 21, 2023, 04:26:09 PM
I wonder why so many people are diagnosing themselves with ADHD nowadays . . .

I've been on this forum long enough to know that the response to this is going to be "well my attention span is just fine!"  Don't even bother. Studies, surveys, and clear resulting effects of decreased attention span since short-form video has taken over show that this absolutely is a real thing regardless of what your personal experience reflects.

You've got it backward–people have the attention span problems first, then gravitate toward TikTok because it complements the way their mind works.
I'm sure that's true for many people, but it's quite obvious that an overall decrease in attention spans has occurred since the explosion of short form video.

Correlation doesn't imply causation.

Quote from: thspfc on July 21, 2023, 08:57:48 PM
I don't care.

Why would you bother to post on a web forum if you don't care what the other users on it have to say? If that's the case, scroll past the post without reading it. Posting about how much you don't care just takes up screen space that ought to be used for something useful. It's a waste of your time and everyone else's.
It's not that I don't care what anyone else has to say; it's that a single personal anecdote is irrelevant as evidence for or against a larger point.

It's called socialization by sharing one's personal experiences.

Have you ever considered that web forums may not be for you?

This was more of an example of someone getting backed into a corner regarding their anecdotal/unqualified medical diagnosis.  Linking the top of the Google search history for cherry picked causality tends be the last gasp of a dying argument that met unexpected challenge.

For the third time, there was no medical diagnosis made ever.

Quote from: thspfc on July 22, 2023, 06:28:57 AM
To clarify, I don't believe that TikTok is causing a rise in legitimate ADHD cases. What it is doing is shortening peoples' attention spans, causing ADHD-like symptoms.

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 07, 2023, 07:05:29 PM
This was more of an example of someone getting backed into a corner regarding their anecdotal/unqualified medical diagnosis.  Linking the top of the Google search history for cherry picked causality tends be the last gasp of a dying argument that met unexpected challenge.
Are you gonna, like, explain why the links are incorrect or not to be trusted?

Quote from: Scott5114 on August 07, 2023, 07:02:31 PM
It's called socialization by sharing one's personal experiences.

Have you ever considered that web forums may not be for you?
I'm totally cool with socialization; I'm not totally cool with people using only their own personal expierence to shape an entire argument or world view.

Quote from: thspfc on July 25, 2023, 03:48:15 PM
It's not that I don't care what anyone else has to say; it's that a single personal anecdote is irrelevant as evidence for or against a larger point.

Quote from: Scott5114 on August 07, 2023, 07:02:31 PM
Have you ever considered that web forums may not be for you?
If my comments are so egregiously out of line for a web forum then it is completely within your power to ban me. Personally I don't think saying "a personal anecdote is not infallible evidence" constitutes such a response.

Max Rockatansky

For someone who supposedly "doesn't care," you sure seem to be caring a lot about what the rest of us think.

thspfc

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 07, 2023, 10:02:53 PM
For someone who supposedly "doesn't care," you sure seem to be caring a lot about what the rest of us think.
I know (or at least I hope) this is tongue in cheek, but in case it isn't; I don't care about a single personal example relating to an overarching point.

Do I actually care about what anyone has to say on here? I mean, not really, and I wouldn't expect anyone to care about what I have to say here either. Aren't we all just here to kill time and discuss/fight over meaningless nonsense? It's not that deep.

Max Rockatansky

Sure showing a lot of care with all these replies.

thspfc

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on August 07, 2023, 10:27:55 PM
Sure showing a lot of care with all these replies.
" Care"  is subjective. Clearly I care enough to waste more time typing these posts.

(is discussing how much the other person cares something that "tends to be the last gasp of a dying argument that met unexpected opposition" ?)

jakeroot

Whether short-form video causes shorter attention spans or not, it certainly makes no attempt to challenge our 8-9 second attention spans.

roadman65

Is the Troll from Long Island back? I'm wondering. Sounds like a new persona for him.
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thspfc

Quote from: roadman65 on August 08, 2023, 04:50:28 AM
Is the Troll from Long Island back? I'm wondering. Sounds like a new persona for him.
Referring to me?

1995hoo

Quote from: thspfc on August 08, 2023, 08:38:48 AM
Quote from: roadman65 on August 08, 2023, 04:50:28 AM
Is the Troll from Long Island back? I'm wondering. Sounds like a new persona for him.
Referring to me?

Pretty certain he means Mike2357 and his various sockpuppets.
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