Worst control city on an interstate in your state

[hbelkins]

Also, the NJTP doesn't go to Philadelphia either.

Neither does I-40 to LA, I-65 to Chicago, I-80 to NYC, or I-70 to Baltimore. 

[kirbykart]

Also, the NJTP doesn't go to Philadelphia either.

Neither does I-40 to LA, I-65 to Chicago, I-80 to NYC, or I-70 to Baltimore. 

Neither does I-76 to Lodi, I-495(MA) to Worcester, I-86 to Erie, I-86 to Twin Falls, etc. The examples are not countless, but are numerous.

[kphoger]

Also, the NJTP doesn't go to Philadelphia either.

Neither does I-40 to LA, I-65 to Chicago, I-80 to NYC, or I-70 to Baltimore. 

Neither does I-76 to Lodi, I-495(MA) to Worcester, I-86 to Erie, I-86 to Twin Falls, etc. The examples are not countless, but are numerous.

Nor does I-15 go to Lethbridge.   

[Flint1979]

Also, the NJTP doesn't go to Philadelphia either.

Neither does I-40 to LA, I-65 to Chicago, I-80 to NYC, or I-70 to Baltimore. 

Neither does I-76 to Lodi, I-495(MA) to Worcester, I-86 to Erie, I-86 to Twin Falls, etc. The examples are not countless, but are numerous.

Nor does I-15 go to Lethbridge.   

That seriously might be one of the dumbest control cities around, I did say one of them.

[Flint1979]

Also, the NJTP doesn't go to Philadelphia either.

Neither does I-40 to LA, I-65 to Chicago, I-80 to NYC, or I-70 to Baltimore. 

Neither does I-76 to Lodi, I-495(MA) to Worcester, I-86 to Erie, I-86 to Twin Falls, etc. The examples are not countless, but are numerous.

Nor does I-15 go to Lethbridge.   

Your first example might not be as valid as you'd think since US-224 is also on the sign and does go to Lodi.

[kphoger]

Nor does I-15 go to Lethbridge.   

That seriously might be one of the dumbest control cities around, I did say one of them.

*shrug*  It's got a population of 100k, so why not?

[Flint1979]

I quoted the wrong person above, I meant to quote kirbykart.

[Flint1979]

Nor does I-15 go to Lethbridge.   

That seriously might be one of the dumbest control cities around, I did say one of them.

*shrug*  It's got a population of 100k, so why not?

It's in Alberta on the other side of the International border. I think just using Sweet Grass would be fine since there is no limit on how small a place has to be. Sweet Grass is at the International border and the northern terminus of I-15 despite it being very small I'm sure it's somewhat known in that area.

[bulldog1979]

At that time, the I-196 segment through Grand Rapids made sense in that it was indeed a spur off from I-96 ...

The I-96 and I-196 designations were flipped west of Grand Rapids in 1963. At the time of the change, you had the situation where there was a continuous freeway from Muskegon through Grand Rapids and continuing toward Lansing along the US 16 corridor. At the point where the current I-96/I-196 interchange sits, that freeway changed from I-196/US 16 to I-96/US 16 without visible reason; the I-96 freeway segment into downtown Grand Rapids hadn't been built yet, so there was no interchange. John C. Mackie was the State Highway Commissioner and involved with AASHO's committee at the time. He thought that the abrupt change in Interstate designation at a then-arbitrary point made little sense and petitioned to have the US 16 corridor unified under a single Interstate designation in 1963. A segment of then I-96/US 31 from Benton Harbor to South Haven was already open to traffic and had to be renumbered I-196/US 31 while then I-196/US 16 became I-96/US 16 from Grand Rapids to Muskegon.

Had they waited a year, the I-196/M-21 freeway from Grandville to Grand Rapids opened in 1964, and the reasoning for the number change along US 16 would have made some sense. Yes, it took until 1974 to finish the freeway from Holland to Grandville, connecting freeway sections opened in 1963 and 1964, but that's not why the numbers were flipped.

[kphoger]

Nor does I-15 go to Lethbridge.   

That seriously might be one of the dumbest control cities around, I did say one of them.

*shrug*  It's got a population of 100k, so why not?

It's in Alberta on the other side of the International border. I think just using Sweet Grass would be fine since there is no limit on how small a place has to be. Sweet Grass is at the International border and the northern terminus of I-15 despite it being very small I'm sure it's somewhat known in that area.

Would you also replace Montreal with Champlain on I-87?

(also... nifty trailblazer in that GSV shot)

[webny99]

I quoted the wrong person above, I meant to quote kirbykart.

Kirbykart listed a bunch of cities - which one?

[JayhawkCO]

Nor does I-15 go to Lethbridge.   

That seriously might be one of the dumbest control cities around, I did say one of them.

*shrug*  It's got a population of 100k, so why not?

It's in Alberta on the other side of the International border. I think just using Sweet Grass would be fine since there is no limit on how small a place has to be. Sweet Grass is at the International border and the northern terminus of I-15 despite it being very small I'm sure it's somewhat known in that area.

Would you also replace Montreal with Champlain on I-87?

(also... nifty trailblazer in that GSV shot)

I'm sure Surrey is better than Vancouver too.

[kphoger]

The I-96 and I-196 designations were flipped west of Grand Rapids in 1963. At the time of the change, you had the situation where there was a continuous freeway from Muskegon through Grand Rapids and continuing toward Lansing along the US 16 corridor. At the point where the current I-96/I-196 interchange sits, that freeway changed from I-196/US 16 to I-96/US 16 without visible reason;  ...

FYI, US-16 was approved for deletion in Michigan on 29-SEP-1961, and it was decommissioned in 1962.

[Flint1979]

Nor does I-15 go to Lethbridge.   

That seriously might be one of the dumbest control cities around, I did say one of them.

*shrug*  It's got a population of 100k, so why not?

It's in Alberta on the other side of the International border. I think just using Sweet Grass would be fine since there is no limit on how small a place has to be. Sweet Grass is at the International border and the northern terminus of I-15 despite it being very small I'm sure it's somewhat known in that area.

Would you also replace Montreal with Champlain on I-87?

(also... nifty trailblazer in that GSV shot)

Yep

[Flint1979]

I quoted the wrong person above, I meant to quote kirbykart.

Kirbykart listed a bunch of cities - which one?

My post #430 was supposed to be a reply to his post #427.

[US 89]

Nor does I-15 go to Lethbridge.   

That seriously might be one of the dumbest control cities around, I did say one of them.

*shrug*  It's got a population of 100k, so why not?

It's in Alberta on the other side of the International border. I think just using Sweet Grass would be fine since there is no limit on how small a place has to be. Sweet Grass is at the International border and the northern terminus of I-15 despite it being very small I'm sure it's somewhat known in that area.

Sweet Grass has 65 people and is not a major junction of any sort. You might as well just put Canada.

When I was going through that area last summer with friends, we actually didn't know where Lethbridge was, but knew enough to know it wasn't in Montana. That's a connection most people would probably make. Sweet Grass would be anyone's guess.

[Flint1979]

Nor does I-15 go to Lethbridge.   

That seriously might be one of the dumbest control cities around, I did say one of them.

*shrug*  It's got a population of 100k, so why not?

It's in Alberta on the other side of the International border. I think just using Sweet Grass would be fine since there is no limit on how small a place has to be. Sweet Grass is at the International border and the northern terminus of I-15 despite it being very small I'm sure it's somewhat known in that area.

Sweet Grass has 65 people and is not a major junction of any sort. You might as well just put Canada.

When I was going through that area last summer with friends, we actually didn't know where Lethbridge was, but knew enough to know it wasn't in Montana. That's a connection most people would probably make. Sweet Grass would be anyone's guess.

It's better than Lethbridge. The way they sign it you would think that Lethbridge was in Montana.

[kphoger]

we actually didn't know where Lethbridge was, but knew enough to know it wasn't in Montana

The way they sign it you would think that Lethbridge was in Montana.

Apparently that's not true.

[kirbykart]

I quoted the wrong person above, I meant to quote kirbykart.

Kirbykart listed a bunch of cities - which one?

My post #430 was supposed to be a reply to his post #427.

Yes, but I listed multiple cities in that post. If I had to guess, I'd say you're talking about Lodi, but I can't know for sure.

[Flint1979]

I quoted the wrong person above, I meant to quote kirbykart.

Kirbykart listed a bunch of cities - which one?

My post #430 was supposed to be a reply to his post #427.

Yes, but I listed multiple cities in that post. If I had to guess, I'd say you're talking about Lodi, but I can't know for sure.

Yes Lodi. I said in my reply, your first example.

[hbelkins]

Nor does I-15 go to Lethbridge.   

That seriously might be one of the dumbest control cities around, I did say one of them.

*shrug*  It's got a population of 100k, so why not?

It's in Alberta on the other side of the International border. I think just using Sweet Grass would be fine since there is no limit on how small a place has to be. Sweet Grass is at the International border and the northern terminus of I-15 despite it being very small I'm sure it's somewhat known in that area.

Sweet Grass has 65 people and is not a major junction of any sort. You might as well just put Canada.

When I was going through that area last summer with friends, we actually didn't know where Lethbridge was, but knew enough to know it wasn't in Montana. That's a connection most people would probably make. Sweet Grass would be anyone's guess.

It's better than Lethbridge. The way they sign it you would think that Lethbridge was in Montana.

South of US 2, isn't Shelby the control city? It's hardly a major city; I was very surprised at how small it is given it's at one of the major entrances to Glacier NP.

Few states sign other states on control city signage along the interstates. West Virginia is a noted exception. Isn't the control city on I-70 west in Kansas just "Limon" and not "Limon, Colo.?"

[Scott5114]

If that's really a problem, you can just put "Lethbridge AB" or "Lethbridge, Can." or "Lethbridge 🇨🇦" or something like that.

Honestly, little flag icons next to control cities would be pretty cool. "Tucumcari ", perhaps?

("But what about all those state flags that look the same because they're just a state seal on a blue background?" you ask. Well, those flags should be replaced on the grounds that they suck, irrespective of any highway sign usage. Kansas, I love you, but your flag is lame as hell.)

[hotdogPi]

If that's really a problem, you can just put "Lethbridge AB" or "Lethbridge, Can." or "Lethbridge 🇨🇦" or something like that.

Honestly, little flag icons next to control cities would be pretty cool. "Tucumcari ", perhaps?

New Mexico's symbol is pretty recognizable, but most people wouldn't recognize most states. I wouldn't even recognize New Hampshire's despite living less than 5 miles from it.

[Scott5114]

New Mexico's symbol is pretty recognizable, but most people wouldn't recognize most states.

Edited my post above to address this, but also...which are people more likely to know, the flag of a state (which most people have at least seen before even if they didn't retain that information) or the existence of Sharon, PA?

[kirbykart]

New Mexico's symbol is pretty recognizable, but most people wouldn't recognize most states.

Edited my post above to address this, but also...which are people more likely to know, the flag of a state (which most people have at least seen before even if they didn't retain that information) or the existence of Sharon, PA?

Well you could just not be stupid like PennDOT and instead sign Youngstown, OH.