AARoads Forum

Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length

Author Topic: Rural gas in Canada  (Read 2073 times)

Alps

  • y u m
  • *
  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 15585
  • Elimitante the truck trarffic,

  • Age: 40
  • Location: New Jersey
  • Last Login: September 24, 2023, 10:55:41 PM
    • Alps' Roads
Rural gas in Canada
« on: February 14, 2023, 10:19:22 PM »

I'm planning a loop relative to the Grand Forks meet and discovered that there is no gas on SK 18 west of Estevan. At all. For over 300 miles.


Except card lock.


Is it remotely plausible that people must have card lock to get gas? If I am clinching SK 18, will any of these stations have someone around during the day to help if I need gas? This seems an absurdly long distance through many towns without a hint of available gas. If someone more experienced in the matter could elaborate, much appreciated.

triplemultiplex

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 3873
  • "You read it; you can't unread it!"

  • Location: inside the beltline
  • Last Login: Today at 11:36:45 AM
Re: Rural gas in Canada
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2023, 11:30:41 AM »

Bust out the jerrycans!
Logged
"That's just like... your opinion, man."

oscar

  • *
  • Online Online

  • Posts: 10180
  • Age: 67
  • Location: Arlington, VA
  • Last Login: Today at 03:18:25 PM
    • my Hot Springs and Highways pages
Re: Rural gas in Canada
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2023, 12:06:36 PM »

^^ Some Canadian cardlocks accept credit cards, even U.S.-issued cards. For example, one in Lynn Lake MB (about 300 km on MB 391 from Thompson, though gas is also available in Leaf Rapids -- I couldn't use that Co-op cardlock machine by myself, but the Co-op store across the street was able to help me).

In Yukon, there was a cardlock that didn't take credit cards. Fortunately, the guy behind me in line for the pump had the necessary card. I gave him a C$50 bill, for him to pump that much gas into my truck. (Not the only situation in rural Canada where Canadian cash came in handy.)

Expect cardlock pumps to be unattended, but Co-op pumps sometimes have someone available to assist, like the one in Leaf Rapids MB. Co-op seems to have pumps and a C-store in Coronach, though that is a long hike west from Estevan. And yes, Co-op will cheerfully sell stuff to non-members.
Logged
my Hot Springs and Highways pages, with links to my roads sites:
http://www.alaskaroads.com/home.html

Mapmikey

  • *
  • Online Online

  • Posts: 4245
  • Co-curator with Froggie of www.vahighways.com

  • Age: 53
  • Last Login: Today at 03:08:17 PM
    • Co-curator Virginia Highways Project
Re: Rural gas in Canada
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2023, 12:48:03 PM »

I'm planning a loop relative to the Grand Forks meet and discovered that there is no gas on SK 18 west of Estevan. At all. For over 300 miles.


Except card lock.


Is it remotely plausible that people must have card lock to get gas? If I am clinching SK 18, will any of these stations have someone around during the day to help if I need gas? This seems an absurdly long distance through many towns without a hint of available gas. If someone more experienced in the matter could elaborate, much appreciated.

Google Willow Bunch Esso. On SK 36, 15 min north of SK 18. About 150 miles from Estevan. 
Logged

Max Rockatansky

  • *
  • Online Online

  • Posts: 23482
  • Age: 40
  • Location: Route 9, Sector 26
  • Last Login: Today at 03:12:29 PM
    • Gribblenation
Re: Rural gas in Canada
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2023, 01:12:20 PM »

Bust out the jerrycans!

Back when I had a truck and occasionally did some OHV runs a couple full jerrycans were an essential.  There was an adage about making sure to carry at least one or two if wherever you were going was 150 miles from a reliable gas station. 
Logged

oscar

  • *
  • Online Online

  • Posts: 10180
  • Age: 67
  • Location: Arlington, VA
  • Last Login: Today at 03:18:25 PM
    • my Hot Springs and Highways pages
Re: Rural gas in Canada
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2023, 01:43:47 PM »

Back when I had a truck and occasionally did some OHV runs a couple full jerrycans were an essential.  There was an adage about making sure to carry at least one or two if wherever you were going was 150 miles from a reliable gas station. 

That really depends on having a well-ventilated place to put the cans. When I used them (not often), I put them in the bed of my pickup truck, then opened the vent windows of my camper shell.
Logged
my Hot Springs and Highways pages, with links to my roads sites:
http://www.alaskaroads.com/home.html

Max Rockatansky

  • *
  • Online Online

  • Posts: 23482
  • Age: 40
  • Location: Route 9, Sector 26
  • Last Login: Today at 03:12:29 PM
    • Gribblenation
Re: Rural gas in Canada
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2023, 02:00:19 PM »

Back when I had a truck and occasionally did some OHV runs a couple full jerrycans were an essential.  There was an adage about making sure to carry at least one or two if wherever you were going was 150 miles from a reliable gas station. 

That really depends on having a well-ventilated place to put the cans. When I used them (not often), I put them in the bed of my pickup truck, then opened the vent windows of my camper shell.

Which in my case I never had a camper shell.  Worked out for me since my truck (a 1997 CK Silverado) had an extended cab with a rear bench that I slept on in a sleeping bag.  Not having to unload often or set up a tent definitely was something that saved a bunch of time.
Logged

Alps

  • y u m
  • *
  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 15585
  • Elimitante the truck trarffic,

  • Age: 40
  • Location: New Jersey
  • Last Login: September 24, 2023, 10:55:41 PM
    • Alps' Roads
Re: Rural gas in Canada
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2023, 11:04:58 PM »

I'm planning a loop relative to the Grand Forks meet and discovered that there is no gas on SK 18 west of Estevan. At all. For over 300 miles.


Except card lock.


Is it remotely plausible that people must have card lock to get gas? If I am clinching SK 18, will any of these stations have someone around during the day to help if I need gas? This seems an absurdly long distance through many towns without a hint of available gas. If someone more experienced in the matter could elaborate, much appreciated.

Google Willow Bunch Esso. On SK 36, 15 min north of SK 18. About 150 miles from Estevan. 
I've noted a couple off my route but hoping to avoid detours like that. See what mileage my car gets. Thanks for the advice!

dmuzika

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 263
  • Location: Calgary, AB
  • Last Login: Today at 12:06:30 AM
Re: Rural gas in Canada
« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2023, 02:13:31 AM »

Just curious as to why SK 18? Most of it is thin membrane surface (especially west of SK 35) and I understand some sections are allowed to revert back to gravel. In other jurisdictions it would probably be a secondary highway.

The Official Saskatchewan Road Map shows thin membrane surface highways; https://www.tourismsaskatchewan.com/about-saskatchewan/travel-guides-and-maps.
Logged

Rothman

  • *
  • *
  • Online Online

  • Posts: 13343
  • Last Login: Today at 03:19:32 PM
Re: Rural gas in Canada
« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2023, 06:49:50 AM »

Just curious as to why SK 18? Most of it is thin membrane surface (especially west of SK 35) and I understand some sections are allowed to revert back to gravel. In other jurisdictions it would probably be a secondary highway.

The Official Saskatchewan Road Map shows thin membrane surface highways; https://www.tourismsaskatchewan.com/about-saskatchewan/travel-guides-and-maps.
Would you say that it would be insane to drive on the membrane?  Insane in the brain?
Logged
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

Alps

  • y u m
  • *
  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 15585
  • Elimitante the truck trarffic,

  • Age: 40
  • Location: New Jersey
  • Last Login: September 24, 2023, 10:55:41 PM
    • Alps' Roads
Re: Rural gas in Canada
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2023, 08:13:28 PM »

I see no issue with it.

froggie

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 12793
  • Location: Greensboro, VT
  • Last Login: Today at 12:11:53 PM
    • Froggie's Place
Re: Rural gas in Canada
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2023, 12:04:27 AM »

"Thin membrane" to me sounds almost like bituminous...
Logged

Alps

  • y u m
  • *
  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 15585
  • Elimitante the truck trarffic,

  • Age: 40
  • Location: New Jersey
  • Last Login: September 24, 2023, 10:55:41 PM
    • Alps' Roads
Re: Rural gas in Canada
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2023, 12:58:06 AM »

"Thin membrane" to me sounds almost like bituminous...
It looked like chipseal when I looked it up.

texaskdog

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 3616
  • Age: 54
  • Location: Kyle, TX
  • Last Login: Today at 12:40:34 AM
Re: Rural gas in Canada
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2023, 01:31:45 AM »

Any Corner Gas fans out there?
Logged

froggie

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 12793
  • Location: Greensboro, VT
  • Last Login: Today at 12:11:53 PM
    • Froggie's Place
Re: Rural gas in Canada
« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2023, 07:49:21 AM »

"Thin membrane" to me sounds almost like bituminous...
It looked like chipseal when I looked it up.

Chipseal is often done on top of bituminous in the Upper Midwest.
Logged

webfil

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 372
  • Age: 35
  • Location: QC, Canada
  • Last Login: September 22, 2023, 07:34:19 PM
Re: Rural gas in Canada
« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2023, 08:15:04 AM »

Cardlock is ubiquitous in rural Canada, especially in the Prairies. I understand that for New Jersey fellows used to full service gas stations, it can be a non-sense 😜

Co-op cardlock stations ensure fuel availability to residents, farmers and businesses via a non-profit network of distributors. But getting a co-op account is quite the hassle for the non-resident, as it requires to fill an application and allow the co-op to inquire your credit status.

I'm not personnaly fond of the "members only" system. While co-op cardlocks can be found sparsely in Québec on the Sonic network, I've seen many off-brand cardlocks that work with the usual credit or debit card, especially in the eastern parts where tourism is abundant but workforce is not. Here's one in La Martre, off R-132 : https://imgur.com/6X27PVG
« Last Edit: February 17, 2023, 10:40:35 AM by webfil »
Logged

dmuzika

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 263
  • Location: Calgary, AB
  • Last Login: Today at 12:06:30 AM
Re: Rural gas in Canada
« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2023, 10:11:02 PM »

 
Any Corner Gas fans out there?

I've recently gotten into it.  :popcorn:
Logged

dmuzika

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 263
  • Location: Calgary, AB
  • Last Login: Today at 12:06:30 AM
Re: Rural gas in Canada
« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2023, 10:20:42 PM »

Just curious as to why SK 18? Most of it is thin membrane surface (especially west of SK 35) and I understand some sections are allowed to revert back to gravel. In other jurisdictions it would probably be a secondary highway.

The Official Saskatchewan Road Map shows thin membrane surface highways; https://www.tourismsaskatchewan.com/about-saskatchewan/travel-guides-and-maps.
Would you say that it would be insane to drive on the membrane?  Insane in the brain?

Some of the more out of the way Saskatchewan highways have an infamous reputation for not being in good shape; the "thin membrane" sections are more likely to live up to that reputation. Saying that, I haven't traveled on SK 18 so it might be fine.
Logged

kphoger

  • *
  • Online Online

  • Posts: 26962
  • My 2 Achilles' heels: sarcasm & snark

  • Location: Wichita, KS
  • Last Login: Today at 03:17:37 PM
Re: Rural gas in Canada
« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2023, 10:23:36 PM »

Just curious as to why SK 18? Most of it is thin membrane surface (especially west of SK 35) and I understand some sections are allowed to revert back to gravel. In other jurisdictions it would probably be a secondary highway.

The Official Saskatchewan Road Map shows thin membrane surface highways; https://www.tourismsaskatchewan.com/about-saskatchewan/travel-guides-and-maps.

I prefer to think of it as "New Mexico style" pavement.

https://goo.gl/maps/zaRXxp5R7tWq53dm9
https://goo.gl/maps/wL9AE2ZgB9JhRjiH6
https://goo.gl/maps/rSjeBG7HrBzHeSES8

Also reminds me of Missouri's lettered highways.
Logged
Keep right except to pass.  Yes.  You.
Visit scenic Orleans County, NY!
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: Philip K. Dick
If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

texaskdog

  • *
  • Offline Offline

  • Posts: 3616
  • Age: 54
  • Location: Kyle, TX
  • Last Login: Today at 12:40:34 AM
Re: Rural gas in Canada
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2023, 08:45:11 AM »

Any Corner Gas fans out there?

I've recently gotten into it.  :popcorn:

He's not "the" Taxman he's "A" Taxman!
Logged

Mapmikey

  • *
  • Online Online

  • Posts: 4245
  • Co-curator with Froggie of www.vahighways.com

  • Age: 53
  • Last Login: Today at 03:08:17 PM
    • Co-curator Virginia Highways Project
Re: Rural gas in Canada
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2023, 08:51:32 PM »

Any Corner Gas fans out there?



I've recently gotten into it.  :popcorn:

He's not "the" Taxman he's "A" Taxman!

I visited the Ruby/Corner Gas set in Rouleau right after they filmed the Corner Gas movie.  Now most of the locations have burned down or been torn down.

"What do you mean there's nothing to see...?  There's nothing to block your view..."
« Last Edit: February 19, 2023, 09:24:28 PM by Mapmikey »
Logged

 


Opinions expressed here on belong solely to the poster and do not represent or reflect the opinions or beliefs of AARoads, its creators and/or associates.