Limon should be a control city

Started by Roadgeekteen, April 01, 2023, 02:23:18 AM

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Henry

You also have New Orleans signed on I-55, although it only ends in LaPlace, LA, and you still need to get on I-10 east to actually get to the implied destination.

Neither I-76 nor I-79 go to Pittsburgh, and yet it still shows up on signs leading up to their associated 3di's that actually enter it.

I-40 isn't the only Los Angeles-signed 2di that never reaches it; I-15 has that too, and misses it by 60 miles, which can be made up by taking I-10 west.
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Scott5114

Quote from: kalvado on April 06, 2023, 09:50:37 PM
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Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 06, 2023, 11:58:44 AM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on April 06, 2023, 11:51:55 AM
Sorry but providing a picture of a mileage sign and claiming it shows a control city is lazy and/or dishonest.

You got me. I was trying to sneak one by you. And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for SEWIGuy and his pesky dog.

Yep. I guess I'm just smarter than you.

You know, if your end goal was pedantry–and I love a good pedantic post from time to time–it would have been much easier to go the route of observing I-15 is not a city and therefore cannot be a control city.

Thirty points from Wisconsin for not seeing the obvious answer.
According to AASHTO link posted above, I-15, IH-84, Canada, and Tappan Zee Bridge are cities.

Why can't I vote in their city council elections, then?

(I mean, I guess you could with Canada.)
You have to move to those cities before you could vote, obviously.

To vote in an I-15 municipal election, is it enough to live in the Las Vegas area, or must I have my residence in the median?
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Roadgeekteen

We've discussed "control cities not on route" about 100000 times on this forum already. I-95 doesn't go into Boston proper, yadda yadda.
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JayhawkCO

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Quote from: SEWIGuy on April 06, 2023, 05:56:11 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 06, 2023, 11:58:44 AM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on April 06, 2023, 11:51:55 AM
Sorry but providing a picture of a mileage sign and claiming it shows a control city is lazy and/or dishonest.

You got me. I was trying to sneak one by you. And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for SEWIGuy and his pesky dog.

Yep. I guess I'm just smarter than you.

And clearly more likeable too.

hotdogPi

Only the bottom line of a 3-line distance sign is a control city. I-15 wasn't on the bottom line.
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Flint1979

Quote from: Henry on April 06, 2023, 10:07:07 PM
You also have New Orleans signed on I-55, although it only ends in LaPlace, LA, and you still need to get on I-10 east to actually get to the implied destination.

Neither I-76 nor I-79 go to Pittsburgh, and yet it still shows up on signs leading up to their associated 3di's that actually enter it.

I-40 isn't the only Los Angeles-signed 2di that never reaches it; I-15 has that too, and misses it by 60 miles, which can be made up by taking I-10 west.
That's why they are the control city, you continue along another route to get there. Like with New Orleans being on I-55, it ends at I-10 and I-10 takes you to New Orleans so that one is fine.

Flint1979

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 06, 2023, 11:09:02 PM
We've discussed "control cities not on route" about 100000 times on this forum already. I-95 doesn't go into Boston proper, yadda yadda.
Nope but gets you close enough to it that you take one more route to get there. Just like with I-70 having Baltimore as a control city, it ends at the city limits and I think it's fine because what else would you use? The highway is heading toward Baltimore.

kalvado

Quote from: Scott5114 on April 06, 2023, 10:49:56 PM
Quote from: kalvado on April 06, 2023, 09:50:37 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 06, 2023, 08:48:47 PM
Quote from: kalvado on April 06, 2023, 07:55:34 PM
Quote from: Scott5114 on April 06, 2023, 07:25:07 PM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on April 06, 2023, 05:56:11 PM
Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 06, 2023, 11:58:44 AM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on April 06, 2023, 11:51:55 AM
Sorry but providing a picture of a mileage sign and claiming it shows a control city is lazy and/or dishonest.

You got me. I was trying to sneak one by you. And I would have gotten away with it too, if it weren't for SEWIGuy and his pesky dog.

Yep. I guess I'm just smarter than you.

You know, if your end goal was pedantry–and I love a good pedantic post from time to time–it would have been much easier to go the route of observing I-15 is not a city and therefore cannot be a control city.

Thirty points from Wisconsin for not seeing the obvious answer.
According to AASHTO link posted above, I-15, IH-84, Canada, and Tappan Zee Bridge are cities.

Why can't I vote in their city council elections, then?

(I mean, I guess you could with Canada.)
You have to move to those cities before you could vote, obviously.

To vote in an I-15 municipal election, is it enough to live in the Las Vegas area, or must I have my residence in the median?
I don't know personally, buy you may contact I-15 city hall with any questions or concerns.  AASHTO office should be able to provide you a phone number or e-mail for that.

kalvado

Quote from: Flint1979 on April 07, 2023, 08:05:55 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 06, 2023, 11:09:02 PM
We've discussed "control cities not on route" about 100000 times on this forum already. I-95 doesn't go into Boston proper, yadda yadda.
Nope but gets you close enough to it that you take one more route to get there. Just like with I-70 having Baltimore as a control city, it ends at the city limits and I think it's fine because what else would you use? The highway is heading toward Baltimore.
What is "close enough" for you may be "way to far" for me. That's the main idea of this thread, actually.

hobsini2

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 05, 2023, 02:12:34 AM
Can I-80 not use Chicago as a control city?
Chicagoland is a much bigger metro area and has several interstate junctions that lead to downtown so it makes a ton of sense to use Chicago for I-80 (as well as Joliet being a city of its own before being swallowed up by urban sprawl.) As for Rochester, you certaily can make a case for signing Rochester at the very least as a secondary if not a primary. Personally, I have been persuaded that it should be a primary control for I-90 despite being a few miles off the highway. Certainly more credible than Albert Lea.
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hobsini2

Quote from: skluth on April 05, 2023, 11:04:37 AM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on April 05, 2023, 08:48:13 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 05, 2023, 02:12:34 AM
Can I-80 not use Chicago as a control city?


Right. The highway doesn't have to physically enter the city.  I-90 serves Rochester. I-80 serves Chicago.

It's interesting (at least to me) that I-90 serves both Rochester NY and MN without entering either city. 

Also, if Tomah can be a control city in Wisconsin, Albert Lea is large enough to be a control city.
Tomah is a secondary control city.
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HighwayStar

Quote from: kalvado on April 07, 2023, 11:06:42 AM
What is "close enough" for you may be "way to far" for me. That's the main idea of this thread, actually.

You nailed it.  :nod:
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hobsini2

Quote from: JayhawkCO on April 05, 2023, 11:14:17 AM
Quote from: skluth on April 05, 2023, 11:04:37 AM
Quote from: SEWIGuy on April 05, 2023, 08:48:13 AM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 05, 2023, 02:12:34 AM
Can I-80 not use Chicago as a control city?


Right. The highway doesn't have to physically enter the city.  I-90 serves Rochester. I-80 serves Chicago.

It's interesting (at least to me) that I-90 serves both Rochester NY and MN without entering either city. 

Also, if Tomah can be a control city in Wisconsin, Albert Lea is large enough to be a control city.

I don't like Tomah either. West of Wisconsin Dells it should be alternating Eau Claire/La Crosse. Tomah is 20 something miles away from a much more important town. The only thing that Tomah has is a junction. A junction and regional importance can be a justification for a control city, but Tomah is certainly not that.
Try 40 miles between La Crosse and Tomah but you are correct.
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Roadgeekteen

Quote from: HighwayStar on April 07, 2023, 12:00:09 PM
Quote from: kalvado on April 07, 2023, 11:06:42 AM
What is "close enough" for you may be "way to far" for me. That's the main idea of this thread, actually.

You nailed it.  :nod:
The main idea of this thread was to joke about Limon, not talk about whether control cities should be on the route or no.
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roadman65

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 07, 2023, 02:58:23 PM
Quote from: HighwayStar on April 07, 2023, 12:00:09 PM
Quote from: kalvado on April 07, 2023, 11:06:42 AM
What is "close enough" for you may be "way to far" for me. That's the main idea of this thread, actually.

You nailed it.  :nod:
The main idea of this thread was to joke about Limon, not talk about whether control cities should be on the route or no.

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kalvado

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 07, 2023, 02:58:23 PM
Quote from: HighwayStar on April 07, 2023, 12:00:09 PM
Quote from: kalvado on April 07, 2023, 11:06:42 AM
What is "close enough" for you may be "way to far" for me. That's the main idea of this thread, actually.

You nailed it.  :nod:
The main idea of this thread was to joke about Limon, not talk about whether control cities should be on the route or no.
Once you post something, you no longer own it. Discussion lives on its own.

formulanone

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Okay everyone, show us where Limon touched you so we can report it to the authorities.

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Like I've said:  Discussions about control cities make me reach for my revolver.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: kalvado on April 07, 2023, 03:32:51 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 07, 2023, 02:58:23 PM
Quote from: HighwayStar on April 07, 2023, 12:00:09 PM
Quote from: kalvado on April 07, 2023, 11:06:42 AM
What is "close enough" for you may be "way to far" for me. That's the main idea of this thread, actually.

You nailed it.  :nod:
The main idea of this thread was to joke about Limon, not talk about whether control cities should be on the route or no.
Once you post something, you no longer own it. Discussion lives on its own.
Though we have other threads for that. I can't believe that this thread is still alive, I made it as a silly April's fools day joke.
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JayhawkCO

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 07, 2023, 05:38:15 PM
Quote from: kalvado on April 07, 2023, 03:32:51 PM
Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 07, 2023, 02:58:23 PM
Quote from: HighwayStar on April 07, 2023, 12:00:09 PM
Quote from: kalvado on April 07, 2023, 11:06:42 AM
What is "close enough" for you may be "way to far" for me. That's the main idea of this thread, actually.

You nailed it.  :nod:
The main idea of this thread was to joke about Limon, not talk about whether control cities should be on the route or no.
Once you post something, you no longer own it. Discussion lives on its own.
Though we have other threads for that. I can't believe that this thread is still alive, I made it as a silly April's fools day joke.

Looks like joke's on you.

roadman65

I remember when Sprite came about in the seventies. They used the result of Lemon and Lime together as a Limon taste to sell the soft drink.
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Road Hog

Limon is fine as the middle line on a 3-line distance sign westbound. Probably eastbound too as kind of the last outpost.

Roadgeekteen

Quote from: Road Hog on April 09, 2023, 07:52:04 PM
Limon is fine as the middle line on a 3-line distance sign westbound. Probably eastbound too as kind of the last outpost.
The bottom line going east out of Denver should honestly be "Kansas border".
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sprjus4

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 09, 2023, 11:27:49 PM
Quote from: Road Hog on April 09, 2023, 07:52:04 PM
Limon is fine as the middle line on a 3-line distance sign westbound. Probably eastbound too as kind of the last outpost.
The bottom line going east out of Denver should honestly be "Kansas border".
Why?

HighwayStar

Quote from: Roadgeekteen on April 09, 2023, 11:27:49 PM
Quote from: Road Hog on April 09, 2023, 07:52:04 PM
Limon is fine as the middle line on a 3-line distance sign westbound. Probably eastbound too as kind of the last outpost.
The bottom line going east out of Denver should honestly be "Kansas border".

Or rather a town in Kansas.
Though actually I love the idea of state line being a 2nd tier on mileage signs, that seems very fitting.
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