Francis Scott Key Bridge (I-695) complete collapse after large ship hits it

[Rothman]

Whether or not there is a change in MDTA's mind -- I'm documenting the consequences of their choices. That's not fiction. That's archival clarity.

O.o

You're exaggerating the importance of posting public on here or anywhere else you (or I) do on the Internet...and I'm struggling to put that mildly.  No one cares or will care that you posted somewhere on the Internet that you were against the bridge replacement, even if the new bridge somehow gets hit.

At best, the few quality posts on AARoads are helpful within our own little community for whatever niche personal interests exist and that's pretty much it.

Fantasizing about people in some future saying, "If only we listened to Beltway" might be comforting ego-stroking (hey, we all do it), but in fantasy it will remain.

Fictional Highways is open only to members who are logged on. IOW not to non-members like in this group and I want them to be able to see my posts -- some of which will read them weeks to years in the future.

That is not a negotiable solution.

Sounds like the correct solution is to get a personal blog, since that's how you seem to want to use the forum.

^This actually might be the seriously best idea for Beltway, given his stated intentions.  Then again, that runs the risk of not having the captive audience he has here and revealing the true level of interest in opinions regarding transportation infrastructure.

[Scott5114]

You're exaggerating the importance of posting public on here or anywhere else you (or I) do on the Internet...and I'm struggling to put that mildly.  No one cares or will care that you posted somewhere on the Internet that you were against the bridge replacement, even if the new bridge somehow gets hit.

At best, the few quality posts on AARoads are helpful within our own little community for whatever niche personal interests exist and that's pretty much it.

Even on the AARoads Wiki, which is closest thing the road community has to an actual archival project, it's hard to see how archival of this subject would need any more than a sentence reading "MDTA considered and rejected a no-build option."

[Max Rockatansky]

Personal blogs take a lot of work.  Even then, you aren't likely going to garner much interest. Even less so if you stick to name brand topics like Interstate anything. 

[kphoger]

Sounds like the correct solution is to get a personal blog, since that's how you seem to want to use the forum.

If only Scott had some such site where he could express himself freely and nobody were to argue with him.  If only...

I am not going to create a thread in Fictional Highways

Then don't.  Fine.  Just don't keep posting your fantasy in this non-fictional thread.

Besides an outer harbor tunnel is not "fictional" if you know the history of the crossing.

Even if you do know the history of the crossing, it is still fictional.

Phrases used in the sticky at the top of the Fictional Highways board:

"not seriously considered by the pertinent road agency
"what would be nice if anything were possible
"unless you're talking about solid plans
"keep threads in the other boards on-topic by removing fictional highway ideas to this board

Whether or not there is a change in MDTA's mind -- I'm documenting the consequences of their choices. That's not fiction. That's archival clarity.

You're documenting your thoughts and opinions about the potential consequences of their choices, and your personally preferred hypothetical alternative solutions.  That's not the same thing as archiving history.

Besides which, this forum is not a historical archive.  It's a public discussion board.  You have your own sites for archiving whatever you feel like archiving.

[Max Rockatansky]

Beltway has espoused similar views on private road groups off forum as well.  Those aren't visible to those who aren't group members.  How is that tangibly different than the Fictional board here?

[Henry]

Let's get back on track with the following story...

This man owns what's probably the last vehicle to ever cross the bridge before it collapsed; since then, he's left his former bakery job:

https://wtop.com/baltimore/2025/03/hfr-thu-am-he-was-driving-one-of-the-final-cars-to-cross-baltimores-key-bridge-before-it-collapsed/

[Rothman]

Sounds like the correct solution is to get a personal blog, since that's how you seem to want to use the forum.

If only Scott had some such site where he could express himself freely and nobody were to argue with him.  If only...

Dear heavens.  Instead of using AI to post on here, he could update that site of his.

[kphoger]

Aww, now I'm disappointed to realize that Dan didn't compose that brilliant poetry himself.

https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/1aojxmr/i_want_to_fuck_a_woman_as_a_horse/

[Rothman]

Aww, now I'm disappointed to realize that Dan didn't compose that brilliant poetry himself.

https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/1aojxmr/i_want_to_fuck_a_woman_as_a_horse/

Of course it's copypasta...

[Max Rockatansky]

Sounds like the correct solution is to get a personal blog, since that's how you seem to want to use the forum.

If only Scott had some such site where he could express himself freely and nobody were to argue with him.  If only...

Dear heavens.  Instead of using AI to post on here, he could update that site of his.

ALso kind of proves the point I was trying to make a couple posts back about blogs and gathering interest.

[Strider]

Yes, but my solution would be worth considering, and I don't consider it redundant -- actually it makes sense to have a separate thread for construction.
A Key Bridge Rebuild thread that would track any and all news and updates therein. The rules would restrict it to current MDTA plans and designs only. Posters who love the project and MDTA and think that it is the Cat's Meow would enjoy it.
This thread would be for general info pertinent to the thread title and aftermath.

Take it to MdTA if you want to, however you're not going to convince them as the decision was already made. Move your arguments to Fictional Highways part and go from there. I want to see updates regarding the Francis Scott Key (I-695) bridge rebuild, not your arguments.
The admin already informed you that you are welcome to create a thread in the Fictional Highways, so don't be a stubborn person.

I am not going to create a thread in Fictional Highways -- as I said unlike nearly every other thread it is not visible to non-members. Besides an outer harbor tunnel is not "fictional" if you know the history of the crossing.

Whether or not there is a change in MDTA's mind -- I'm documenting the consequences of their choices. That's not fiction. That's archival clarity.

Do you know the history of the I-266 Three Sisters Bridge?

Sounds like a YOU problem. Good luck and don't tell me I didn't warn you.