Control Cities

[SEWIGuy]

Should Saginaw be a control city on I-75? We had the discussion with Baltimore being the control city on I-70 eastbound I was wondering if Saginaw should be on I-75 considering I-75 doesn't enter the city of Saginaw.

It if wasn't, it'd be hard to find your way back after going to look for America.

What?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFAoWwUwknc

Paul Simon: "Kathy, I'm lost"

Highway Star:  That's because the US Highway System is a mess.

[Dirt Roads]

Should Saginaw be a control city on I-75?

It if wasn't, it'd be hard to find your way back after going to look for America.

I'm pretty sure that the same man in a Gabardine suit was still there when I finally got to Saginaw.  My project started in Savannah, worked it's way to Richmond.  Headed back to Rocky Mount to shut it down.  Took the stuff to Toledo.  Then worked from Detroit to Saginaw.  It started snowing in Holly in early October.  Over 100 miniature projects completed in about 2 months.

[HighwayStar]

Should Saginaw be a control city on I-75? We had the discussion with Baltimore being the control city on I-70 eastbound I was wondering if Saginaw should be on I-75 considering I-75 doesn't enter the city of Saginaw.

It if wasn't, it'd be hard to find your way back after going to look for America.

What?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFAoWwUwknc

Paul Simon: "Kathy, I'm lost"

Highway Star:  That's because the US Highway System is a mess.

Toss me a cigarette 

[Roadgeekteen]

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7808653,-70.7217934,3a,18.9y,292.24h,91.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suRsFnOtr7SOvDROBI97qzQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

These cities suck, I would sign Worcester/Boston for I-495. For I-195 I would add a supplemental sign telling people heading to NYC to take I-195.

[kkt]

Should Saginaw be a control city on I-75? We had the discussion with Baltimore being the control city on I-70 eastbound I was wondering if Saginaw should be on I-75 considering I-75 doesn't enter the city of Saginaw.

It if wasn't, it'd be hard to find your way back after going to look for America.

What?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFAoWwUwknc

Paul Simon: "Kathy, I'm lost"

Highway Star:  That's because the US Highway System is a mess.

🤣

[amroad17]

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7808653,-70.7217934,3a,18.9y,292.24h,91.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suRsFnOtr7SOvDROBI97qzQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

These cities suck, I would sign Worcester/Boston for I-495. For I-195 I would add a supplemental sign telling people heading to NYC to take I-195.

I agree with your opinion of the supplemental sign for NYC.  However, Marlboro is fine for I-495.  If a motorist was driving from the western side of Cape Cod and wanted to go to Boston, then they would more than likely take MA 3.  Also, Boston is the control city for MA 24 North so there is another accessible way to go.  Worcester is just a little off the path of I-495 but it can be accessed via I-290, which it is signed for.

The control points for I-495 should be Cape Cod, Marlboro, Lowell, and Portsmouth, NH.

[Roadgeekteen]

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7808653,-70.7217934,3a,18.9y,292.24h,91.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suRsFnOtr7SOvDROBI97qzQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

These cities suck, I would sign Worcester/Boston for I-495. For I-195 I would add a supplemental sign telling people heading to NYC to take I-195.

I agree with your opinion of the supplemental sign for NYC.  However, Marlboro is fine for I-495.  If a motorist was driving from the western side of Cape Cod and wanted to go to Boston, then they would more than likely take MA 3.  Also, Boston is the control city for MA 24 North so there is another accessible way to go.  Worcester is just a little off the path of I-495 but it can be accessed via I-290, which it is signed for.

The control points for I-495 should be Cape Cod, Marlboro, Lowell, and Portsmouth, NH.

If I am going from Falmouth or anywhere on the Western Cape from Needham I always take MA 24 and I-495. Maybe a Boston supplemental sign.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Falmouth,+MA/Boston,+MA/@42.132066,-71.4535017,9z/data=!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89e4d0ca83e860f3:0xb581647734b66134!2m2!1d-70.6085886!2d41.5532208!1m5!1m1!1s0x89e3652d0d3d311b:0x787cbf240162e8a0!2m2!1d-71.0588801!2d42.3600825!3e0

From Falmouth to Boston it would likely depend on which bridge is less of a disaster

[amroad17]

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7808653,-70.7217934,3a,18.9y,292.24h,91.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suRsFnOtr7SOvDROBI97qzQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

These cities suck, I would sign Worcester/Boston for I-495. For I-195 I would add a supplemental sign telling people heading to NYC to take I-195.

I agree with your opinion of the supplemental sign for NYC.  However, Marlboro is fine for I-495.  If a motorist was driving from the western side of Cape Cod and wanted to go to Boston, then they would more than likely take MA 3.  Also, Boston is the control city for MA 24 North so there is another accessible way to go.  Worcester is just a little off the path of I-495 but it can be accessed via I-290, which it is signed for.

The control points for I-495 should be Cape Cod, Marlboro, Lowell, and Portsmouth, NH.

If I am going from Falmouth or anywhere on the Western Cape from Needham I always take MA 24 and I-495. Maybe a Boston supplemental sign.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Falmouth,+MA/Boston,+MA/@42.132066,-71.4535017,9z/data=!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89e4d0ca83e860f3:0xb581647734b66134!2m2!1d-70.6085886!2d41.5532208!1m5!1m1!1s0x89e3652d0d3d311b:0x787cbf240162e8a0!2m2!1d-71.0588801!2d42.3600825!3e0

From Falmouth to Boston it would likely depend on which bridge is less of a disaster

Maybe a sign on MA 25 NB just before the I-495/I-195 interchange reading...

           Boston
  FOLLOW I-495 NORTH
    TO MA 24 NORTH

[roadman65]

https://goo.gl/maps/7eYumpVdiPbHvdpx7

The Islands for the Bourne Bridge I take is for Martha's Vineyard and Nantucket I presume?

[Roadgeekteen]

https://goo.gl/maps/7eYumpVdiPbHvdpx7

The Islands for the Bourne Bridge I take is for Martha's Vineyard and Nantucket I presume?

yes

https://www.google.com/maps/@41.7808653,-70.7217934,3a,18.9y,292.24h,91.8t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1suRsFnOtr7SOvDROBI97qzQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

These cities suck, I would sign Worcester/Boston for I-495. For I-195 I would add a supplemental sign telling people heading to NYC to take I-195.

I agree with your opinion of the supplemental sign for NYC.  However, Marlboro is fine for I-495.  If a motorist was driving from the western side of Cape Cod and wanted to go to Boston, then they would more than likely take MA 3.  Also, Boston is the control city for MA 24 North so there is another accessible way to go.  Worcester is just a little off the path of I-495 but it can be accessed via I-290, which it is signed for.

The control points for I-495 should be Cape Cod, Marlboro, Lowell, and Portsmouth, NH.

If I am going from Falmouth or anywhere on the Western Cape from Needham I always take MA 24 and I-495. Maybe a Boston supplemental sign.

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Falmouth,+MA/Boston,+MA/@42.132066,-71.4535017,9z/data=!4m14!4m13!1m5!1m1!1s0x89e4d0ca83e860f3:0xb581647734b66134!2m2!1d-70.6085886!2d41.5532208!1m5!1m1!1s0x89e3652d0d3d311b:0x787cbf240162e8a0!2m2!1d-71.0588801!2d42.3600825!3e0

From Falmouth to Boston it would likely depend on which bridge is less of a disaster

Maybe a sign on MA 25 NB just before the I-495/I-195 interchange reading...

           Boston
  FOLLOW I-495 NORTH
    TO MA 24 NORTH

That would work well

[Flint1979]

Who's following I-75 to Saginaw?

[Roadgeekteen]

Who's following I-75 to Saginaw?

People who live in Saginaw

[Flint1979]

Who's following I-75 to Saginaw?

People who live in Saginaw

Well I live in Saginaw but people going up north are following I-75 in the same location.

[Flint1979]

Cities that make one appearance as a control city such as Bay City at the Zilwaukee exit.
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4917411,-83.9230597,3a,15y,310.06h,91.22t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjJOPnNXVDGCSt4bbktyraA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Any other sign at this point on I-75 would have Mackinac Bridge as the control city.

I-675 uses Mackinac Bridge
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.49524,-83.9345182,3a,15y,51.28h,93.65t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sjnsUIvUP2dTBuY-Rxc1WjQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

So does M-13
https://www.google.com/maps/@43.4795049,-83.9063426,3a,24.9y,143.72h,91.36t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sX4EVxpaTu17Gjy1ZXqQSIw!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fpanoid%3DX4EVxpaTu17Gjy1ZXqQSIw%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D107.64344%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192

[Roadgeekteen]

Who's following I-75 to Saginaw?

People who live in Saginaw

Well I live in Saginaw but people going up north are following I-75 in the same location.

Yes? And? Metro Saginaw has about 2/3 of the population of the entire UP.

[Flint1979]

Who's following I-75 to Saginaw?

People who live in Saginaw

Well I live in Saginaw but people going up north are following I-75 in the same location.

Yes? And? Metro Saginaw has about 2/3 of the population of the entire UP.

The population of the U.P. is irrelevant. Up North Michigan attracts many people from the Detroit area and other areas. Plus there are still 185 miles to go before you even get to the bridge from Saginaw. Our lakes > all others.

[JayhawkCO]

The population of the U.P. is irrelevant. Up North Michigan attracts many people from the Detroit area and other areas. Plus there are still 185 miles to go before you even get to the bridge from Saginaw. Our lakes > all others.

Minnesota says "them's fightin' words".

Chris

[hobsini2]

Who's following I-75 to Saginaw?

People who live in Saginaw

Well I live in Saginaw but people going up north are following I-75 in the same location.

Yes? And? Metro Saginaw has about 2/3 of the population of the entire UP.

The population of the U.P. is irrelevant. Up North Michigan attracts many people from the Detroit area and other areas. Plus there are still 185 miles to go before you even get to the bridge from Saginaw. Our lakes > all others.

Just be glad that you have the UP as part of Michigan from the Toledo War. 3/4 of it should be Wisconsin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledo_War#/media/File:Upper_peninsula_Toledo_War.png

[SEWIGuy]

Who's following I-75 to Saginaw?

People who live in Saginaw

Well I live in Saginaw but people going up north are following I-75 in the same location.

Yes? And? Metro Saginaw has about 2/3 of the population of the entire UP.

The population of the U.P. is irrelevant. Up North Michigan attracts many people from the Detroit area and other areas. Plus there are still 185 miles to go before you even get to the bridge from Saginaw. Our lakes > all others.

Just be glad that you have the UP as part of Michigan from the Toledo War. 3/4 of it should be Wisconsin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledo_War#/media/File:Upper_peninsula_Toledo_War.png

No thanks.

[Flint1979]

Who's following I-75 to Saginaw?

People who live in Saginaw

Well I live in Saginaw but people going up north are following I-75 in the same location.

Yes? And? Metro Saginaw has about 2/3 of the population of the entire UP.

The population of the U.P. is irrelevant. Up North Michigan attracts many people from the Detroit area and other areas. Plus there are still 185 miles to go before you even get to the bridge from Saginaw. Our lakes > all others.

Just be glad that you have the UP as part of Michigan from the Toledo War. 3/4 of it should be Wisconsin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledo_War#/media/File:Upper_peninsula_Toledo_War.png

We already had about a third of it but I'd rather have Toledo haha.

[Roadgeekteen]

Who's following I-75 to Saginaw?

People who live in Saginaw

Well I live in Saginaw but people going up north are following I-75 in the same location.

Yes? And? Metro Saginaw has about 2/3 of the population of the entire UP.

The population of the U.P. is irrelevant. Up North Michigan attracts many people from the Detroit area and other areas. Plus there are still 185 miles to go before you even get to the bridge from Saginaw. Our lakes > all others.

Just be glad that you have the UP as part of Michigan from the Toledo War. 3/4 of it should be Wisconsin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledo_War#/media/File:Upper_peninsula_Toledo_War.png

We already had about a third of it but I'd rather have Toledo haha.

I would take a vast beautiful peninsula over a random small Ohio city.

[Flint1979]

Who's following I-75 to Saginaw?

People who live in Saginaw

Well I live in Saginaw but people going up north are following I-75 in the same location.

Yes? And? Metro Saginaw has about 2/3 of the population of the entire UP.

The population of the U.P. is irrelevant. Up North Michigan attracts many people from the Detroit area and other areas. Plus there are still 185 miles to go before you even get to the bridge from Saginaw. Our lakes > all others.

Just be glad that you have the UP as part of Michigan from the Toledo War. 3/4 of it should be Wisconsin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledo_War#/media/File:Upper_peninsula_Toledo_War.png

We already had about a third of it but I'd rather have Toledo haha.

I would take a vast beautiful peninsula over a random small Ohio city.

Toledo isn't a small city.

[Flint1979]

I don't think the U.P. is really beautiful entirely. It has it's nice features and scenery but you can find spots like that south of the bridge too so it's not like the U.P. really does anything for ya. It's nice to go visit or something like that but I wouldn't want to live up there and I think it's rather dirty in some areas. A city like Ontonagon that city is a typical Great Lakes industrial city that has lost over half it's peak population what a depressing place for real. Marquette and Houghton are ok, Sault Ste Marie is rather isolated from the rest of the state and it's so cold there most of the time. I like Escanaba though somewhat and like the Wisconsin side of the border much better. I noticed that when I dipped into Wisconsin while following US-2 then went back into Michigan and it was like night and day difference.

[thspfc]

Who's following I-75 to Saginaw?

People who live in Saginaw

Well I live in Saginaw but people going up north are following I-75 in the same location.

Yes? And? Metro Saginaw has about 2/3 of the population of the entire UP.

The population of the U.P. is irrelevant. Up North Michigan attracts many people from the Detroit area and other areas. Plus there are still 185 miles to go before you even get to the bridge from Saginaw. Our lakes > all others.

Just be glad that you have the UP as part of Michigan from the Toledo War. 3/4 of it should be Wisconsin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledo_War#/media/File:Upper_peninsula_Toledo_War.png

We already had about a third of it but I'd rather have Toledo haha.

I would take a vast beautiful peninsula over a random small Ohio city.

There are beautiful areas in the UP, but as a whole I'd say it compares to a state like Georgia or South Carolina, where there's also a lot of dullness.

[Flint1979]

Who's following I-75 to Saginaw?

People who live in Saginaw

Well I live in Saginaw but people going up north are following I-75 in the same location.

Yes? And? Metro Saginaw has about 2/3 of the population of the entire UP.

The population of the U.P. is irrelevant. Up North Michigan attracts many people from the Detroit area and other areas. Plus there are still 185 miles to go before you even get to the bridge from Saginaw. Our lakes > all others.

Just be glad that you have the UP as part of Michigan from the Toledo War. 3/4 of it should be Wisconsin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledo_War#/media/File:Upper_peninsula_Toledo_War.png

We already had about a third of it but I'd rather have Toledo haha.

I would take a vast beautiful peninsula over a random small Ohio city.

There are beautiful areas in the UP, but as a whole I'd say it compares to a state like Georgia or South Carolina, where there's also a lot of dullness.

Dullness might be an understatement. Once I get to the U.P. I sometimes get dumbfounded on what to do. Some of it is so boring it's not even funny.