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GM Boss Doubles Down On Ejecting Apple CarPlay And Android Auto

Started by ZLoth, November 09, 2024, 04:56:03 PM

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vdeane

Quote from: formulanone on October 23, 2025, 08:26:32 AM
Quote from: Rothman on October 23, 2025, 06:55:12 AM
Quote from: formulanone on October 23, 2025, 06:15:28 AMSo far, I have not seen any CarPlay removal from any GM rental car that I've rented in the last two years. That's about 10-12 vehicles.

Why would you have, given the decision hasn't been implemented yet?

Because every one of these threads turns into threats of immediate doom, gloom, and enshittification, and I'm commenting on how it hasn't shaken up much of anything 12 months later.

So it's not "doubling down" if it hasn't happened.
The article is from yesterday, not 2024.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.


Max Rockatansky

Quote from: formulanone on October 23, 2025, 08:26:32 AM
Quote from: Rothman on October 23, 2025, 06:55:12 AM
Quote from: formulanone on October 23, 2025, 06:15:28 AMSo far, I have not seen any CarPlay removal from any GM rental car that I've rented in the last two years. That's about 10-12 vehicles.

Why would you have, given the decision hasn't been implemented yet?

Because every one of these threads turns into threats of immediate doom, gloom, and enshittification, and I'm commenting on how it hasn't shaken up much of anything 12 months later.

So it's not "doubling down" if it hasn't happened.

You do know this is GM right?  Enshittification driven by bean counters looking to save a buck is kind of what they are known for.

formulanone

Quote from: vdeane on October 23, 2025, 12:39:11 PM
Quote from: formulanone on October 23, 2025, 08:26:32 AM
Quote from: Rothman on October 23, 2025, 06:55:12 AM
Quote from: formulanone on October 23, 2025, 06:15:28 AMSo far, I have not seen any CarPlay removal from any GM rental car that I've rented in the last two years. That's about 10-12 vehicles.

Why would you have, given the decision hasn't been implemented yet?

Because every one of these threads turns into threats of immediate doom, gloom, and enshittification, and I'm commenting on how it hasn't shaken up much of anything 12 months later.

So it's not "doubling down" if it hasn't happened.
The article is from yesterday, not 2024.

Page 1?

Rothman

Quote from: formulanone on October 23, 2025, 01:24:33 PM
Quote from: vdeane on October 23, 2025, 12:39:11 PM
Quote from: formulanone on October 23, 2025, 08:26:32 AM
Quote from: Rothman on October 23, 2025, 06:55:12 AM
Quote from: formulanone on October 23, 2025, 06:15:28 AMSo far, I have not seen any CarPlay removal from any GM rental car that I've rented in the last two years. That's about 10-12 vehicles.

Why would you have, given the decision hasn't been implemented yet?

Because every one of these threads turns into threats of immediate doom, gloom, and enshittification, and I'm commenting on how it hasn't shaken up much of anything 12 months later.

So it's not "doubling down" if it hasn't happened.
The article is from yesterday, not 2024.

Page 1?

The effort's been around since 2023.  Just moving at a snail's pace...if at all beyond lip service...
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

kalvado

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 23, 2025, 12:44:22 PMYou do know this is GM right?  Enshittification driven by bean counters looking to save a buck is kind of what they are known for.
They somewhat rightly mentioned how they gave up on disk drives to get flash (and Bluetooth won after all)
I have my questions about Android Auto - but that may (or may not) be the thing for years to come.
I don't see a viable alternative right now, though - but in theory GM can make a bet on that alternative  - and win it. Would they win? well...

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: kalvado on October 23, 2025, 04:29:39 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 23, 2025, 12:44:22 PMYou do know this is GM right?  Enshittification driven by bean counters looking to save a buck is kind of what they are known for.
They somewhat rightly mentioned how they gave up on disk drives to get flash (and Bluetooth won after all)
I have my questions about Android Auto - but that may (or may not) be the thing for years to come.
I don't see a viable alternative right now, though - but in theory GM can make a bet on that alternative  - and win it. Would they win? well...

GM stopped being a viable option for me once they stopped making cars (aside from the Corvette).  GM is all about big margin trucks and CUVs.  Toyota and Subaru likely be where I'm sourcing my daily drivers from now on.

vdeane

Quote from: formulanone on October 23, 2025, 01:24:33 PM
Quote from: vdeane on October 23, 2025, 12:39:11 PM
Quote from: formulanone on October 23, 2025, 08:26:32 AM
Quote from: Rothman on October 23, 2025, 06:55:12 AM
Quote from: formulanone on October 23, 2025, 06:15:28 AMSo far, I have not seen any CarPlay removal from any GM rental car that I've rented in the last two years. That's about 10-12 vehicles.

Why would you have, given the decision hasn't been implemented yet?

Because every one of these threads turns into threats of immediate doom, gloom, and enshittification, and I'm commenting on how it hasn't shaken up much of anything 12 months later.

So it's not "doubling down" if it hasn't happened.
The article is from yesterday, not 2024.

Page 1?
I was looking at the article that bumped the thread since that's what appeared when I clicked "new" - not the OP.  That article mentioned that this change had previously been for the EV lineup and is now coming to the gas cars.  So unless you were renting EVs, you wouldn't have seen anything from their previous efforts on this.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position of NYSDOT or its affiliates.

Scott5114

Quote from: formulanone on October 23, 2025, 08:26:32 AMSo it's not "doubling down" if it hasn't happened.

One can only double down when nothing has happened—if you hit or stand, you can no longer double down. (Casinos differ on whether you can double down after a split.)
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Henry

Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 23, 2025, 04:39:23 PM
Quote from: kalvado on October 23, 2025, 04:29:39 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 23, 2025, 12:44:22 PMYou do know this is GM right?  Enshittification driven by bean counters looking to save a buck is kind of what they are known for.
They somewhat rightly mentioned how they gave up on disk drives to get flash (and Bluetooth won after all)
I have my questions about Android Auto - but that may (or may not) be the thing for years to come.
I don't see a viable alternative right now, though - but in theory GM can make a bet on that alternative  - and win it. Would they win? well...

GM stopped being a viable option for me once they stopped making cars (aside from the Corvette).  GM is all about big margin trucks and CUVs.
So is Ford; their only car is the Mustang, and let's not forget they have the best-selling pickup truck for almost a half-century. At least Stellantis has a new Charger (and bringing back the Hemi was a step in the right direction), but aside from that, they're all about minivans and Jeeps. Oh, and sorry to interrupt, but the Corvette is not the only traditional car GM has right now, because Cadillac has them too, in the form of the CT-series sedans.
Go Cubs Go! Go Cubs Go! Hey Chicago, what do you say? The Cubs are gonna win today!

Rothman

Quote from: Henry on Today at 10:28:53 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 23, 2025, 04:39:23 PM
Quote from: kalvado on October 23, 2025, 04:29:39 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 23, 2025, 12:44:22 PMYou do know this is GM right?  Enshittification driven by bean counters looking to save a buck is kind of what they are known for.
They somewhat rightly mentioned how they gave up on disk drives to get flash (and Bluetooth won after all)
I have my questions about Android Auto - but that may (or may not) be the thing for years to come.
I don't see a viable alternative right now, though - but in theory GM can make a bet on that alternative  - and win it. Would they win? well...

GM stopped being a viable option for me once they stopped making cars (aside from the Corvette).  GM is all about big margin trucks and CUVs.
So is Ford; their only car is the Mustang, and let's not forget they have the best-selling pickup truck for almost a half-century. At least Stellantis has a new Charger (and bringing back the Hemi was a step in the right direction), but aside from that, they're all about minivans and Jeeps. Oh, and sorry to interrupt, but the Corvette is not the only traditional car GM has right now, because Cadillac has them too, in the form of the CT-series sedans.

I've heard more than one mechanic mutter that people should stay away from everything Stellantis.
Please note: All comments here represent my own personal opinion and do not reflect the official position(s) of NYSDOT.

Max Rockatansky

Quote from: Henry on Today at 10:28:53 AM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 23, 2025, 04:39:23 PM
Quote from: kalvado on October 23, 2025, 04:29:39 PM
Quote from: Max Rockatansky on October 23, 2025, 12:44:22 PMYou do know this is GM right?  Enshittification driven by bean counters looking to save a buck is kind of what they are known for.
They somewhat rightly mentioned how they gave up on disk drives to get flash (and Bluetooth won after all)
I have my questions about Android Auto - but that may (or may not) be the thing for years to come.
I don't see a viable alternative right now, though - but in theory GM can make a bet on that alternative  - and win it. Would they win? well...

GM stopped being a viable option for me once they stopped making cars (aside from the Corvette).  GM is all about big margin trucks and CUVs.
So is Ford; their only car is the Mustang, and let's not forget they have the best-selling pickup truck for almost a half-century. At least Stellantis has a new Charger (and bringing back the Hemi was a step in the right direction), but aside from that, they're all about minivans and Jeeps. Oh, and sorry to interrupt, but the Corvette is not the only traditional car GM has right now, because Cadillac has them too, in the form of the CT-series sedans.

Sometimes I forget about Cadillac.  I guess that is a good thing since it probably means I'm not old enough to be a target customer.  I do like me some CTS-V wagons though if I happen to see one at a car show.