NFL (2025 Season)

[Roadgeekteen]

Did the ref give a K-ball to the Broncos for that game ending field goal on Sunday?  Everything was so rushed then that it was impossible to verify.

Refs Giants' coaches in that game were just straight trash.

FIFY.

Both is correct. The refs screwed up the last PI call, the Giants coaches were also laughingly incompetent as well.

[jgb191]

Seeing Aaron Glen going to the NY Jets makes me wonder why on Earth he would leave such a great thing going on in Detroit; I mean if he gets fired by the Jets what next?  He can't get his old job back with the Lions can he? 

Same thing with several other unsuccessful head coaches:  I am baffled as to why successful OCs or DCs would leave a good situation for a bad situation just to be a head coach?  Why risk your job security?  Maybe am I greatly underestimating the salary increase?  I mean is a couple of years of head coaching pay worth walking away from having secured career as a coordinator?

[Roadgeekteen]

Seeing Aaron Glen going to the NY Jets makes me wonder why on Earth he would leave such a great thing going on in Detroit; I mean if he gets fired by the Jets what next?  He can't get his old job back with the Lions can he? 

Same thing with several other unsuccessful head coaches:  I am baffled as to why successful OCs or DCs would leave a good situation for a bad situation just to be a head coach?  Why risk your job security?  Maybe am I greatly underestimating the salary increase?  I mean is a couple of years of head coaching pay worth walking away from having secured career as a coordinator?

Everyone wants to be the top guy. You don't get this far up the coaching tree without having the drive to want to be the best.

[Max Rockatansky]

Seeing Aaron Glen going to the NY Jets makes me wonder why on Earth he would leave such a great thing going on in Detroit; I mean if he gets fired by the Jets what next?  He can't get his old job back with the Lions can he? 

Same thing with several other unsuccessful head coaches:  I am baffled as to why successful OCs or DCs would leave a good situation for a bad situation just to be a head coach?  Why risk your job security?  Maybe am I greatly underestimating the salary increase?  I mean is a couple of years of head coaching pay worth walking away from having secured career as a coordinator?

Everyone wants to be the top guy. You don't get this far up the coaching tree without having the drive to want to be the best.

Seems to be working for Ben Johnson with the Bears so far.  I'd imagine most people would probably had the Jets and Bears being equally as bad at the start of the season.

[wanderer2575]

Seeing Aaron Glen going to the NY Jets makes me wonder why on Earth he would leave such a great thing going on in Detroit; I mean if he gets fired by the Jets what next?  He can't get his old job back with the Lions can he? 

Same thing with several other unsuccessful head coaches:  I am baffled as to why successful OCs or DCs would leave a good situation for a bad situation just to be a head coach?  Why risk your job security?  Maybe am I greatly underestimating the salary increase?  I mean is a couple of years of head coaching pay worth walking away from having secured career as a coordinator?

Everyone wants to be the top guy. You don't get this far up the coaching tree without having the drive to want to be the best.

A non-sports reference:

"As the First Officer of the Enterprise, you have a position of distinction, prestige, even glamor of a sort.  You are the second in command of Starfleet's flagship -- but still, second in command.  Your promotion will transfer you to a relatively insignificant ship in an obscure corner of the galaxy.  But it will be your ship and, being who you are, it will soon be vibrant with your authority, your style, your vision.  You know -- there really is no substitute for holding the reins."

-- Captain Jean-Luc Picard (Patrick Stewart), "The Icarus Factor," Star Trek: The Next Generation

[jgb191]

Seeing Aaron Glen going to the NY Jets makes me wonder why on Earth he would leave such a great thing going on in Detroit; I mean if he gets fired by the Jets what next?  He can't get his old job back with the Lions can he? 

Same thing with several other unsuccessful head coaches:  I am baffled as to why successful OCs or DCs would leave a good situation for a bad situation just to be a head coach?  Why risk your job security?  Maybe am I greatly underestimating the salary increase?  I mean is a couple of years of head coaching pay worth walking away from having secured career as a coordinator?

Everyone wants to be the top guy. You don't get this far up the coaching tree without having the drive to want to be the best.

A non-sports reference:

"As the First Officer of the Enterprise, you have a position of distinction, prestige, even glamor of a sort.  You are the second in command of Starfleet's flagship -- but still, second in command.  Your promotion will transfer you to a relatively insignificant ship in an obscure corner of the galaxy.  But it will be your ship and, being who you are, it will soon be vibrant with your authority, your style, your vision.  You know -- there really is no substitute for holding the reins."

-- Captain Jean-Luc Picard (Patrick Stewart), "The Icarus Factor," Star Trek: The Next Generation

Yeah I get it....you want the prestige to be the main man; but I suspect you probably know this all too well:  Although unfair or unwarranted, many people point at this 'top guy' when things go wrong -- the Head Coach.  The Head Coaching position is so unstable very few have ever approached (let alone surpassed) a decade continuously at that role.  Basically what I'm wondering:  Is it worth jeopardizing your job security and your livelihood just to be that 'top guy' let alone on another team?  And if you're fired, what are the odds of getting your previous job back?  I look at this more from a job security and livelihood viewpoint.

Oh and did I also point out CHOOSING to go from a probable Super Bowl contender the Lions to a winless (thus far) team the Jets?

[NWI_Irish96]

Forks (if we're doing that this year): NYG, NO, CAR, SEA, NYJ, MIA, CLE, TEN

I know this isn't a thing this year, but I'm going to play it out anyway. SEA fork is gonna cost me. At this point I'd add LV and ARI. Glad I didn't include IND before the season.

[SEWIGuy]

Seeing Aaron Glen going to the NY Jets makes me wonder why on Earth he would leave such a great thing going on in Detroit; I mean if he gets fired by the Jets what next?  He can't get his old job back with the Lions can he? 

Same thing with several other unsuccessful head coaches:  I am baffled as to why successful OCs or DCs would leave a good situation for a bad situation just to be a head coach?  Why risk your job security?  Maybe am I greatly underestimating the salary increase?  I mean is a couple of years of head coaching pay worth walking away from having secured career as a coordinator?

Everyone wants to be the top guy. You don't get this far up the coaching tree without having the drive to want to be the best.

Seems to be working for Ben Johnson with the Bears so far.  I'd imagine most people would probably had the Jets and Bears being equally as bad at the start of the season.

While the Bears aren't a great NFL organization, they are still light years ahead of the Jets. I can understand an offensive guru wanting to work with Caleb Williams in that organization. But if I were a promising coordinator, I would never work for the Jets. They are just an awful organization.

[Max Rockatansky]

Seeing Aaron Glen going to the NY Jets makes me wonder why on Earth he would leave such a great thing going on in Detroit; I mean if he gets fired by the Jets what next?  He can't get his old job back with the Lions can he? 

Same thing with several other unsuccessful head coaches:  I am baffled as to why successful OCs or DCs would leave a good situation for a bad situation just to be a head coach?  Why risk your job security?  Maybe am I greatly underestimating the salary increase?  I mean is a couple of years of head coaching pay worth walking away from having secured career as a coordinator?

Everyone wants to be the top guy. You don't get this far up the coaching tree without having the drive to want to be the best.

Seems to be working for Ben Johnson with the Bears so far.  I'd imagine most people would probably had the Jets and Bears being equally as bad at the start of the season.

While the Bears aren't a great NFL organization, they are still light years ahead of the Jets. I can understand an offensive guru wanting to work with Caleb Williams in that organization. But if I were a promising coordinator, I would never work for the Jets. They are just an awful organization.

I never thought at any point last year that Caleb Williams was awful or wasn't the right 1st draft pick.  20 touchdowns and 6 interceptions was pretty solid for a rookie QB all things considered.

[mgk920]

Bad reffing calls are part of the game.  Bad coaching . . .

Mike

[epzik8]

I never thought at any point last year that Caleb Williams was awful or wasn't the right 1st draft pick.  20 touchdowns and 6 interceptions was pretty solid for a rookie QB all things considered.

I definitely think coaching was the problem for the Bears last year and not Caleb, and I say this as a Washington fan where we drafted a QB one pick after him and made a respectable playoff run.

[NWI_Irish96]

I never thought at any point last year that Caleb Williams was awful or wasn't the right 1st draft pick.  20 touchdowns and 6 interceptions was pretty solid for a rookie QB all things considered.

I definitely think coaching was the problem for the Bears last year and not Caleb, and I say this as a Washington fan where we drafted a QB one pick after him and made a respectable playoff run.

Caleb is never going to be an elite QB, but he can be as good as Jalen Hurts, which is plenty good enough to win a Super Bowl if you have the right team around him. They absolutely have to address the OL in a big way this upcoming offseason. I worry that a lot of this year's offensive success comes from playing weak defenses like LV, DAL and NO.

[epzik8]

Congrats to the Chargers but I felt so horrible seeing Carson Wentz in tears on the sideline.

[SEWIGuy]

The Vikings letting Darnold walk was a really bad idea.

[epzik8]

Wonder if Tyler Huntley will throw a clutch TD pass on Sunday like he did the last time the Ravens played the Bears in 2021, when Lamar was also sidelined.

[TheHighwayMan3561]

The Vikings letting Darnold walk was a really bad idea.

Meh. I don't know if McCarthy is the answer but I still have lost no sleep over Darnold. They can have him. I really don't think he's played all that exceptionally anyway. Better than the Vikings QB room? Absolutely. But overall? It's not like they let Mahomes walk away.

[JayhawkCO]

The Vikings letting Darnold walk was a really bad idea.

Meh. I don't know if McCarthy is the answer but I still have lost no sleep over Darnold. They can have him. I really don't think he's played all that exceptionally anyway. Better than the Vikings QB room? Absolutely. But overall? It's not like they let Mahomes walk away.

Agreed. (Also a Vikings fan.)

[SEWIGuy]

Welp, you are clearly worse now without him. And I know that's not all because of his absense.

[Great Lakes Roads]

The Jets FINALLY got their first win this season against the Bengals! 

[JayhawkCO]

Welp, you are clearly worse now without him. And I know that's not all because of his absense.

Chalking a lot of it up to a really bad offensive line despite the free agency signings.

[74/171FAN]

The Jets FINALLY got their first win this season against the Bengals! 

I thought they might go 0-17.  The Titans definitely may end up 1-16.  Their saving grace was the Cardinals playing stupid.

[Roadgeekteen]

Patriots continue to roll, Drake Maye for MVP season coming?