The Attempt to Fix Virginia Signage Featuring WillWeaverRVA

[WillWeaverRVA]

If it were up to me I'd truncate US 33 to US 250 since there is effectively now a gap in the designation (there's a GRTC Pulse station separating what is officially two segments of US 33), and even with the new mayoral administration, Richmond still seems averse to posting US 33 anywhere...except for roads that aren't US 33.

I would still have US 33 end along US 250 along US 1/US 301 and VA 33's west end be on Leigh St at US 1/US 301.  Even signage along US 250 EB supports that idea even with the US 33 error.

As Takumi posted, that US 33 shield is now a VA 33 shield.

[WillWeaverRVA]

@Mapmikey: The now-erroneous signage for VA 414 at Salem Road and Lynnhaven Parkway in Virginia Beach appears to be gone now, based on March 2025 GSV.

[WillWeaverRVA]

Not looking like 315 or 399 will be signed. Unlike 353, Richmond DPW does not maintain those roads and so they're deferring to VMFA and the Science Museum (neither one of whom I think would be interested in signing those routes).

[Takumi]

Seems like we've gotten about as far as we'll get then. Although I wonder if I could commission Jake to make a VA 315 cutout shield, pass it off as an art piece, and donate it to the VMFA on the condition that they post it on the road somewhere.

[Scott5114]

something something Richard Ankrom

[WillWeaverRVA]

VDOT sent me notifications that my requests regarding VA 393 (NOVA Manassas campus off VA 234) and VA 394 (NOVA Woodbridge campus off SR 638) in Prince William County have been completed/resolved.

Interestingly, two requests I put in regarding posting VA 213 are also showing as completed, even though the engineer I spoke to told me it was up to Manassas Park to decide whether to post VA 213 or not (and Manassas Park had previously told me no).

Unfortunately I'm not really in a position to go check and see if signs have been posted.

[74/171FAN]

Unfortunately I'm not really in a position to go check and see if signs have been posted.

I am sure I will get to it eventually if no one beats me to it.

[WillWeaverRVA]

I created a Google Doc to keep track of all my requests, and damn. I haven't added the Richmond ones yet and this is a lot. Clearly I have waaaaaaay too much time on my hands.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/121YA6uNruVHSTiGu0cqceUpV23pncZoH3LfZbHxir64/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[WillWeaverRVA]

VDOT claims to have completed my VA 327 request. I'll have to try to check it out if I have time.

[Takumi]

VDOT claims to have completed my VA 327 request. I'll have to try to check it out if I have time.

If they did, it happened today, because I drove by VSU yesterday and there were no signs for it other than the blades on MPC way. I'll check it out again later.

[Takumi]

I just drove the perimeter of the campus and looked down every road that goes past a gate, and saw no new 327 signs anywhere. I'll check again another day.

[WillWeaverRVA]

I just drove the perimeter of the campus and looked down every road that goes past a gate, and saw no new 327 signs anywhere. I'll check again another day.

Argh. Well, thanks for checking.

[WillWeaverRVA]

Richmond put up a few missing VA 33 movements and replaced a couple of faded trailblazers. I was also told they put up trailblazers for US 1 and US 301 at the Idlewood Ave roundabout just off VA 195 (the exit is signed for US 1 and US 301, but the exit deposits you in the middle of Oregon Hill with no indication on how to get there).

VDOT has marked a few of my Chesterfield requests as completed, but they're not completed. Not sure what the deal is with that.

[Takumi]

VDOT has marked a few of my Chesterfield requests as completed, but they're not completed. Not sure what the deal is with that.

What did they say was completed? I can go check 327 and 366 again later today.

[WillWeaverRVA]

VDOT has marked a few of my Chesterfield requests as completed, but they're not completed. Not sure what the deal is with that.

What did they say was completed? I can go check 327 and 366 again later today.

That's the weird thing, unlike Richmond's 311 service, there's no notes or anything, just a note saying "your request has been resolved" for both the VA 327 request and the VA 366 request. The same is true for some SR rectangles along VA 147 that are pointing the wrong way (into the City of Richmond) and a SR 2480 sign on SR 604 that's missing an arrow panel - they're listed as resolved but haven't been fixed.

I also don't like how you can report something as a sign needing to be installed or replaced and their system changes it to "traffic study request". I may need to resubmit the requests.

[Takumi]

VDOT has marked a few of my Chesterfield requests as completed, but they're not completed. Not sure what the deal is with that.

What did they say was completed? I can go check 327 and 366 again later today.

That's the weird thing, unlike Richmond's 311 service, there's no notes or anything, just a note saying "your request has been resolved" for both the VA 327 request and the VA 366 request. The same is true for some SR rectangles along VA 147 that are pointing the wrong way (into the City of Richmond) and a SR 2480 sign on SR 604 that's missing an arrow panel - they're listed as resolved but haven't been fixed.

I also don't like how you can report something as a sign needing to be installed or replaced and their system changes it to "traffic study request". I may need to resubmit the requests.

Yeah, nothing has changed. I wonder if that means they declined the request without reason.

Given Chesterfield added the 366 number to its street blade, do you know if they corrected the one for VA 324?

[WillWeaverRVA]

VDOT has marked a few of my Chesterfield requests as completed, but they're not completed. Not sure what the deal is with that.

What did they say was completed? I can go check 327 and 366 again later today.

That's the weird thing, unlike Richmond's 311 service, there's no notes or anything, just a note saying "your request has been resolved" for both the VA 327 request and the VA 366 request. The same is true for some SR rectangles along VA 147 that are pointing the wrong way (into the City of Richmond) and a SR 2480 sign on SR 604 that's missing an arrow panel - they're listed as resolved but haven't been fixed.

I also don't like how you can report something as a sign needing to be installed or replaced and their system changes it to "traffic study request". I may need to resubmit the requests.

Yeah, nothing has changed. I wonder if that means they declined the request without reason.

Given Chesterfield added the 366 number to its street blade, do you know if they corrected the one for VA 324?

The 324 one hasn't been corrected, though they did correct some 711/675 mixups on Robious Rd. They may not want to sign 324 either.

[74/171FAN]

The 324 one hasn't been corrected, though they did correct some 711/675 mixups on Robious Rd.

It would be better if it all became SR 711 or even re-entered the primary system, but that is fictional territory.

[Takumi]

The 324 one hasn't been corrected, though they did correct some 711/675 mixups on Robious Rd.

It would be better if it all became SR 711 or even re-entered the primary system, but that is fictional territory.

I think you mean that's our next challenge after getting signage corrected. I believe the corridor between 60 and 288 meets most if not all of the CTB's requirements for upgrading secondary routing to primary.

[WillWeaverRVA]

The 324 one hasn't been corrected, though they did correct some 711/675 mixups on Robious Rd.

It would be better if it all became SR 711 or even re-entered the primary system, but that is fictional territory.

I have actually asked about having 711 and 675 just be one continuous route since the staggered intersection between then-VA 44, VA 147, and SR 675 hasn't been around for like 70 years but never got a response.

[Takumi]

The 324 one hasn't been corrected, though they did correct some 711/675 mixups on Robious Rd.

It would be better if it all became SR 711 or even re-entered the primary system, but that is fictional territory.

I have actually asked about having 711 and 675 just be one continuous route since the staggered intersection between then-VA 44, VA 147, and SR 675 hasn't been around for like 70 years but never got a response.

I think it's just like that because Powhatan already had a 675 when VA 44 was downgraded and they never had a reason to change the number.

[WillWeaverRVA]

I got in touch with VDOT about some of the requests being marked as resolved and was told that VDOT has no plans to sign VA 327 or 366, but they will reach out to me later.

Apparently even though the VDOT engineer I spoke to about VA 324 said they weren't interested in posting that route, VDOT has contacted Chesterfield County about signage, so it's possible 324 may be posted in some way soon.

Oddly, the two SR rectangles that were installed by VDOT on the wrong side of VA 147 can't be fixed by VDOT because they are technically in the City of Richmond.

[Takumi]

Anything on 410?

Also I'm not terribly surprised if VDOT doesn't pursue more signing on 327 and 366. 327 is now mostly behind gates (the MPC Way segment is by far the longest section that isn't, and it's only a few blocks long) and 366 is a minor enough route that the lone street blade posting covers acknowledgement of it being a state route.

Given how Richmond has handled the requests for 315 and 399, it wouldn't surprise me if they wouldn't do anything with the white rectangles if you asked them to.

[WillWeaverRVA]

Anything on 410?

Also I'm not terribly surprised if VDOT doesn't pursue more signing on 327 and 366. 327 is now mostly behind gates (the MPC Way segment is by far the longest section that isn't, and it's only a few blocks long) and 366 is a minor enough route that the lone street blade posting covers acknowledgement of it being a state route.

Given how Richmond has handled the requests for 315 and 399, it wouldn't surprise me if they wouldn't do anything with the white rectangles if you asked them to.

Nothing on 410 yet.

I'm gonna see if the city will at least just rotate the rectangles so they point the right way. I'm sure I can word the request in a way where they'd be fine with doing that.

315 may yet be signed, that request seems to still be open and I misread the response to the 399 one. And I'm tempted to contact the science museum and see if they can get 399 posted somehow anyway.

[Takumi]

Posting 315 trailblazers on 161 seems plausible, if nothing else. It's not like it's a gated route like 327 and even 410 are. My thought is that the museums may just not want to encourage through traffic on it by having the route posted, and may have told the city such.

US 522 is posted from the south end of VA 410, so there likely was a conscious decision not to post it when it was opened.