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Is Interstate 95 the only mainline Interstate that still isn't complete?

Started by Quillz, October 14, 2010, 05:15:01 PM

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Hot Rod Hootenanny

Quote from: agentsteel53 on November 02, 2010, 12:13:55 AM
Quote from: Adam Smith on November 02, 2010, 12:12:32 AM

Follow the money.


I don't have the time to dig into the intricacies of Pennsylvania state politics.  Since you've clearly done the research, want to tell me the answer?

Since you asked, no.
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agentsteel53

Quote from: Adam Smith on November 02, 2010, 12:15:49 AM

No.

do you specifically enjoy being an asshole, or does it come so instinctively that you no longer think about it?
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Hot Rod Hootenanny

Quote from: agentsteel53 on November 02, 2010, 12:16:18 AM
Quote from: Adam Smith on November 02, 2010, 12:15:49 AM

No.

do you specifically enjoy being an asshole, or does it come so instinctively that you no longer think about it?

Takes one to know one now, doesn't it.
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agentsteel53

Quote from: Adam Smith on November 02, 2010, 12:17:00 AM

Takes one to know one now, doesn't it.

good job being utterly reluctant to answer the question there.
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Hot Rod Hootenanny

Quote from: agentsteel53 on November 02, 2010, 12:17:58 AM
Quote from: Adam Smith on November 02, 2010, 12:17:00 AM

Takes one to know one now, doesn't it.

good job being utterly reluctant to answer the question there.

Oh, I'm enjoying this. You care enough to ask. You don't care enough to act.
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agentsteel53

Quote from: Adam Smith on November 02, 2010, 12:20:27 AM
Oh, I'm enjoying this. You care enough to ask. You don't care enough to act.

yeah, I noticed you're enjoying this - that makes you a demented sadist.  congratulations on becoming your most feral of instincts.  You'd rather tweeze and exploit people on an incidental lack of knowledge, rather than acting like a normal human being and providing a straightforward answer.  

have fun purposely being a contrarian douchebag.
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rickmastfan67

Please get back on topic people and stop the flame war.  If you want to continue it, take it to PM please.

Quillz

Yeah, we shouldn't veer off-topic. To reiterate, I was asking if I-95, being one of the original Interstates planned back in 1956, was the last remaining original Interstate to not yet be officially completed, due to that gap in New Jersey.

agentsteel53

Quote from: Quillz on November 02, 2010, 01:08:35 AM
Yeah, we shouldn't veer off-topic. To reiterate, I was asking if I-95, being one of the original Interstates planned back in 1956, was the last remaining original Interstate to not yet be officially completed, due to that gap in New Jersey.

well, to answer that, either that or 70 because of Breezewood.  Or 78 to the Holland Tunnel, but I am not sure if that final segment was part of the original plan.
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NE2

By 1955 (Yellow Book) the routes in cities (including I-78 into NYC) had been defined, but not by number. The first numbering plan was made in 1957 with 80N from Harrisburg to northeast New Jersey (AASHTO used a 1947 plan for this numbering, and so didn't deal with city alignments). By 1958 it had become I-78, but again it's not clear whether it was specifically defined into NYC.

It does seem to be correct that I-95 has the only intercity gap in signage of the original 1950s routes. I believe everything else on http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Interstate_Highway_plan_June_27,_1958.jpg has been built (though not all on the same alignments - look at I-12 - or all with the same numbers). Looking through later maps, it seems that the only intercity addition to not be completed (and to be later removed) was I-84 from Hartford to Providence.

But didn't the original plan allow for at-grade intersections in rural areas? Really, if I-70 is incomplete, so are I-10 and I-20 in Texas.
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agentsteel53

Quote from: NE2 on November 02, 2010, 01:58:46 AM
But didn't the original plan allow for at-grade intersections in rural areas? Really, if I-70 is incomplete, so are I-10 and I-20 in Texas.

at-grade intersections, yes.  traffic lights? hell no!
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TheStranger

Quote from: NE2 on November 02, 2010, 01:58:46 AM
But didn't the original plan allow for at-grade intersections in rural areas? Really, if I-70 is incomplete, so are I-10 and I-20 in Texas.

Where does the at-grade segment on I-78 between Route 139 and the Holland Tunnel fit into this, too?
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agentsteel53

there are lots of at-grade intersections on interstate highways.  the ones on I-10 and I-20 are the most well-known, as the majority of them receive absolutely no signage whatsoever, and are accessible only from one direction of travel.  I-40 has several around the North Carolina/Tennessee state line, with one even receiving a street blade: Hurricane Road.  They're intended for use by forest service and fire department vehicles. 

I know I-8 has several ranch gates in Arizona that are ostensibly accessed via the eastbound mainline.  (Didn't notice any westbound, but I'm sure they're there too.)  I-5 in the Grapevine has a few forest service access routes, and also even a loop of the old 1913 Ridge Route that is accessible directly from the freeway!

I'm sure if you look carefully, you can find forest service or ranch access roads on nearly every interstate out in the sticks.
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froggie

I-40 also has some at-grade intersections at ranches west of Amarillo.

One other route, which I'd hinted at previously, that could be considered under the OP's original question:  I-67.  It was in the 1957 numbering plan, running generally from Elkhart, IN to the Battle Creek, MI vicinity.  But it was removed in the 1958 numbering plan.

Hot Rod Hootenanny

Quote from: froggie on November 02, 2010, 11:51:53 AM
I-40 also has some at-grade intersections at ranches west of Amarillo.

Yep. Caught this one in New Mexico, in 2001
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agentsteel53

I believe those signs have been removed, but the ranch gates remain, completely unsigned.

the road was signed in 2006, but I haven't noticed the signs since 2007 or so.
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froggie

The I-40 intersections I was thinking of were moreso on the Texas side of the state line...mainly between Glenrio (Exit 0) and Adrian (Exit 22/TX 214).  I don't recall seeing any on I-40 in New Mexico between the state line and US 285....this was in 2005.


NE2

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I accept and respect your identity as long as it's not dumb shit like "identifying as a vaccinated attack helicopter".

Bickendan

You're correct, strictly because the ramp got striped. But it's straight asphalt across the gore, so it very technically qualifies.

florida

Quote from: AlpsROADS on October 17, 2010, 06:04:07 PM
Quote from: PAHighways on October 17, 2010, 01:57:51 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on October 14, 2010, 05:44:59 PM70 is a fairly stiff gap.  Is there any plan to build a bypass around Breezewood?

No
Weeeeeeeeeeell... there are plans, but every time it gets brought up, the businesses shoot it down, and for some reason no one is willing to anger them (there really aren't that many), so the plans have never made it to a firm design.

Doesn't Breezewood technically consist of just gas stations and fast food places? I didn't see any (or many) houses in the immediate area.
So many roads...so little time.

Mr_Northside

And also hotels (There is (was?) an old billboard along the Turnpike advertising it as the "Town of Motels"...

But as far as residences goes, Breezewood is actually very small.  (It's not even a municipal entity... Just a "village".)
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PAHighways

Quote from: florida on November 04, 2010, 05:02:15 PMDoesn't Breezewood technically consist of just gas stations and fast food places? I didn't see any (or many) houses in the immediate area.

There are homes east of Breezewood along US 30, some to the northwest, and a couple along the abandoned Turnpike.



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