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Re: Trans-Canada Highway Numbering
« Reply #25 on: September 04, 2011, 08:46:20 AM »

The Queen Elizabeth Way was named for Queen Elizabeth (later known as the "Queen Mother"), the Queen Consort of King George VI.
It was always "the Queen Mother", rather than "Queen Mother" (being a description, rather than a name), though she had other titles (look on wikipedia at what they called her at her funeral - it's a good long paragraph). While I know of no other time it's done (though QEQM redirects on wikipedia), certainly not when she was alive, but the Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother Hospital in Margate abbreviates it to Q E Q M Hospital.
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Re: Trans-Canada Highway Numbering
« Reply #26 on: September 07, 2011, 03:14:02 PM »

If visitors to Canada can follow a route maker displaying only a “QEW” (whatever that is! :confused:)
Queen Elizabeth Way.
Thanks……but didn’t you catch my sarcasm? I grew up next to the QEW in Niagara Falls and we just called it the “Queen E”
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Re: Trans-Canada Highway Numbering
« Reply #27 on: September 08, 2011, 07:36:00 AM »

Thanks……but didn’t you catch my sarcasm? I grew up next to the QEW in Niagara Falls and we just called it the “Queen E”
Probably should have used a different smiley.  The one you posted means "confused".
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Re: Trans-Canada Highway Numbering
« Reply #28 on: September 08, 2011, 10:45:42 AM »

Thanks……but didn’t you catch my sarcasm? I grew up next to the QEW in Niagara Falls and we just called it the “Queen E”
Probably should have used a different smiley.  The one you posted means "confused".
Yes a visitor may be confused when they see "QEW" on a maker when they are used to seeing a number.   
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Re: Trans-Canada Highway Numbering
« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2011, 12:03:27 PM »

The confused smiley doesn't imply sarcasm... it implies that you seriously were confused.
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Re: Trans-Canada Highway Numbering
« Reply #30 on: September 09, 2011, 12:51:16 PM »

The confused smiley doesn't imply sarcasm... it implies that you seriously were confused.
:colorful:
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Re: Trans-Canada Highway Numbering
« Reply #31 on: September 11, 2011, 11:24:44 PM »

And today I did see the assembly in Ontario on the 417. Four shields in all, reposted after every exit in Ottawa (WB):
[417]
[TO 7][TO 17]
[TCH]

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Re: Trans-Canada Highway Numbering
« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2011, 06:09:52 PM »

And today I did see the assembly in Ontario on the 417. Four shields in all, reposted after every exit in Ottawa (WB):
[417]
[TO 7][TO 17]
[TCH]

Something like this??
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Re: Trans-Canada Highway Numbering
« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2012, 09:27:39 PM »

Do Ontario and Quebec even post TCH shields?

The majority of Ontario's population is probably south of the TCH anyways.

Yes the shield is posted along with the provincial route number in both Ont and Quebec.

The 401 corridor is south of the TCH and the closest the TCH gets to Toronto is about 80kms.  
Doesn't seem to be shown on the photos I've seen of ON 17 and ON 417 just now.  I'm pretty sure I didn't see any when I was in Ottawa in 2009 which is why I wanted to check.

In Ontario the TCH splits at Ottawa, and follows ON-417/17 west to North Bay and on to Manitoba, and ON-7 west of Lindsay at JCT ON-12 north to Orillia to JCT ON-400, to meet up with ON-17 at Sudbury. This is know and signed as the Central Ontario Route.  AT this JCT of 7 and 12, is the closest west in Central Ontario that the TCH gets to Toronto. At North Bay, the TCH splits again to follow ON-11 (Northern Ontario Route), and ON-17 then meets up at Nipigon (Lake Superior Route). The thinking at the time was to provide as much coverage of Ontario as possible.  Also interestingly enough Ontario does not have a HWY 1 as the government at the time (1920's) didn't want towns and cities fighting over the possible routing of a road.
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Re: Trans-Canada Highway Numbering
« Reply #34 on: January 22, 2012, 11:24:24 AM »

Do Ontario and Quebec even post TCH shields?

The majority of Ontario's population is probably south of the TCH anyways.

Yes the shield is posted along with the provincial route number in both Ont and Quebec.

The 401 corridor is south of the TCH and the closest the TCH gets to Toronto is about 80kms. 
Doesn't seem to be shown on the photos I've seen of ON 17 and ON 417 just now.  I'm pretty sure I didn't see any when I was in Ottawa in 2009 which is why I wanted to check.

In Ontario the TCH splits at Ottawa, and follows ON-417/17 west to North Bay and on to Manitoba, and ON-7 to west to Lindsay to ON-12 then north to Orillia and then north on ON-400 to meet up with ON-17 at Sudbury.

Don't forget ON-66/ON-11 Northern Route, which is the shortest all-canadian route between the Prairies and the Maritimes.
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Re: Trans-Canada Highway Numbering
« Reply #35 on: January 26, 2012, 11:24:57 AM »

Don't forget ON-66/ON-11 Northern Route, which is the shortest all-canadian route between the Prairies and the Maritimes.

Does anyone know how much Prairie-Maritime traffic uses the Aut 15/QC 117 & ON 66/11 route of the Trans Canada Hwy?  The distance savings is 85 km by taking the Northern Route over Aut 40 & ON 417/17, yet the southern route offers more major centres like Ottawa, North Bay, Sudbury, and Sault Ste Marie for tourist services.  When did that route get assigned the TCH designation?
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Re: Trans-Canada Highway Numbering
« Reply #36 on: January 26, 2012, 01:10:11 PM »

Why? Here in Nova Scotia TCH104, as well as TCH105 & TCH106 works fine for me as it probably does for most others that drive it every day......if it ain`t broke, why fix it!  104, 105 & 106 all carry the green TCH shield.

Because it's one route. At least give it one number in NS, even if it's not 1.  No, it's not necessary, but far more sensible.

There's precedent for this in Canada, by the way.  The current TCH 16 originally consisted of different numbered routes (AB/BC 16, SK 5, SK 14, MB 4), but the latter two provinces changed their portions to 16 by 1977 to give the Yellowhead Highway a consistent route number.  All were signed with the Yellowhead shield before this, so by your criteria it wasn't necessary to do this, but I don't think anyone would disagree it's better to have the entire highway united under a single route number.

The other precident is in Alberta - prior to 1941 the east-west route out of Calgary (current TCH 1) was AB 2 while the current AB 2 was designated as AB 1.
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Re: Trans-Canada Highway Numbering
« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2012, 04:18:25 PM »

Do Ontario and Quebec even post TCH shields?

The majority of Ontario's population is probably south of the TCH anyways.

Yes the shield is posted along with the provincial route number in both Ont and Quebec.

The 401 corridor is south of the TCH and the closest the TCH gets to Toronto is about 80kms. 
Doesn't seem to be shown on the photos I've seen of ON 17 and ON 417 just now.  I'm pretty sure I didn't see any when I was in Ottawa in 2009 which is why I wanted to check.

In Ontario the TCH splits at Ottawa, and follows ON-417/17 west to North Bay and on to Manitoba, and ON-7 to west to Lindsay to ON-12 then north to Orillia and then north on ON-400 to meet up with ON-17 at Sudbury.

Don't forget ON-66/ON-11 Northern Route, which is the shortest all-canadian route between the Prairies and the Maritimes.
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i have mentioned the ON-11, but if we are to mention ON-66 then I have to mention The Lake-of-the-Woods/Rainy River Route from Thunder Bay to Kenora via ON-11 to ON-71.
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Re: Trans-Canada Highway Numbering
« Reply #38 on: April 04, 2018, 10:25:48 AM »

How did this thread get back to the top? The last post was from 2012.

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Re: Re: Trans-Canada Highway Numbering
« Reply #39 on: April 04, 2018, 04:40:13 PM »

A post likely got edited for whatever reason.
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Re: Re: Trans-Canada Highway Numbering
« Reply #40 on: April 04, 2018, 07:40:27 PM »

thought this was a fritzowl post
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Re: Re: Trans-Canada Highway Numbering
« Reply #41 on: April 04, 2018, 07:53:40 PM »

thought this was a fritzowl post

Can't be. This isn't in the Fictional Highways forum.
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Re: Re: Trans-Canada Highway Numbering
« Reply #42 on: April 04, 2018, 08:32:46 PM »

thought this was a fritzowl post

Can't be. This isn't in the Fictional Highways forum.

I'm sure he'd have 100 TransCanada freeways
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Re: Re: Trans-Canada Highway Numbering
« Reply #43 on: April 04, 2018, 08:43:26 PM »

thought this was a fritzowl post
Can't be. This isn't in the Fictional Highways forum.
I'm sure he'd have 100 TransCanada freeways

With a Interstate-grade freeway to Tuktoyaktuk, a loop through northern Nunavut that includes bridges at each end of Baffin Island, and a spur route that connects to Nuuk in Greenland.
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Re: Re: Trans-Canada Highway Numbering
« Reply #44 on: April 04, 2018, 08:51:12 PM »

But would he include an interstate to Alert?
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Re: Re: Trans-Canada Highway Numbering
« Reply #45 on: April 04, 2018, 10:00:55 PM »

thought this was a fritzowl post

Can't be. This isn't in the Fictional Highways forum.

I'm sure he'd have 100 TransCanada freeways

No, he'd have freeways but they'd be called Interstates.  Because the US highway system has a manifest destiny to cover the continent globe.
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