Bypasses of bypasses

Started by ftballfan, March 23, 2011, 02:59:36 PM

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Gilpin Rd. and its bypasses are worth mentioning, if not because Gilpin is the old National Road, then because the view is pretty awesome.


The view from Gilpin Road by mobilene, on Flickr
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Jasper, AL:

The original US 78 ran through downtown Jasper.  In the 1950s a US 78 bypass to the north of town was built.  Corridor X would later bypass Jasper to the south (and take US 78 with it.)

mgk920

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You can see numerous such 'bypasses of bypasses' at all of those towns along I-55 between Joliet and Springfield, IL.

First, you had the original road through those towns in the early 20th century, often making intersection turns in those towns due to its rural parts following a major railroad that was built on a diagonal.

Then, along comes US 66 and some of those towns had minor bypasses built, even if they were still on local streets with smoothed curves at the corners (pre-WWII era).

Then, US 66 was upgraded to four lanes divided and all of those towns has new bypasses built that way (WWII though the late 1950s)

Then, I-55 comes along and it bypasses all of that (early 1960s into the late 1970s/early 1980s).

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roadman65

How about I-64 in the Hampton Roads area.  It bypassed US 13 that was a bypass to US 58 that went through Norfolk and Portsmouth!  What about I-64 bypassing old VA 168 across the Hampton Roads Harbor?  VA 168 (now VA 143) went all the way to VA 33 near West Point to bypass US 60 through the pennisula!  Then pre- I-64 alignment of VA 33 (VA 249) completed the way to Richmond!
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Quote from: roadman65 on March 24, 2011, 07:03:53 PM
How about I-64 in the Hampton Roads area.  It bypassed US 13 that was a bypass to US 58 that went through Norfolk and Portsmouth!  What about I-64 bypassing old VA 168 across the Hampton Roads Harbor?  VA 168 (now VA 143) went all the way to VA 33 near West Point to bypass US 60 through the pennisula!  Then pre- I-64 alignment of VA 33 (VA 249) completed the way to Richmond!
First VA 249 ends in Bottoms Bridge about 15 miles east of downtown Richmond.

Second VA 33 multiplexes with US 60 to Sandston before following Nine Mile Rd which I guess at some point could have been considered a bypass of US 60 from Sandston to Richmond??
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Sounds like a stretch to me... I know of an example in Williamsburg, though. Bypass Rd was built for US 60 to bypass Williamsburg, then recently VA 199 was built as a freeway/expressway loop of Williamsburg, connecting to US 60 near each end. I-64 could also arguably serve as the second bypass.
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froggie

Another thing related to the last three posts:  what is now I-64 from the HRBT to north of Williamsburg was originally built and signed as VA 168.

roadman65

Quote from: deathtopumpkins on March 25, 2011, 11:16:41 AM
Sounds like a stretch to me... I know of an example in Williamsburg, though. Bypass Rd was built for US 60 to bypass Williamsburg, then recently VA 199 was built as a freeway/expressway loop of Williamsburg, connecting to US 60 near each end. I-64 could also arguably serve as the second bypass.

Actually now that you mention it there were more bypasses!  US 60 either used Lafayette Street or Francis Street through the historic area before the current US 60 was built there!  VA 168 was built as the outer bypass before I-64 and VA 199.
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roadman65

Quote from: froggie on March 25, 2011, 02:08:28 PM
Another thing related to the last three posts:  what is now I-64 from the HRBT to north of Williamsburg was originally built and signed as VA 168.


Actually VA 143 (Jefferson Avenue, Merrimac Trail) was old 168.  Only I-64 west of Williamsburg to VA 30 was built as VA 168 then upgraded to freeway in the 80's.  VA 30 from its eastern end to VA 33 was part of it.  There was a VA 168Y that was near the current  US 60 and VA 30 intersection that was connector from 168 to 60.
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froggie

I'm aware that Jefferson Ave was old 168.  My point was that it was relocated onto what is now I-64 south of Williamsburg.

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Devil's Elbow, MO

US 66 was bypassed/rerouted by a 4-lane segment that was later bypassed by I-44


Also Pine Bluff, AR

The Martha Mitchell Expressway was a bypass of old US 65 which in turn was bypassed by I-530
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Rick Powell

Bloomington-Normal, IL:

"Old 66" - original route thru town
I-55 Business Loop (Vet's Parkway) - 1st east side bypass, late 1950's.
I-55/74 - 1st west side bypass, late 1960's.
Towanda-Barnes Road - 2nd east side bypass, upgraded to 5 lanes, late 1990's/early 2000's?
Proposed East Side Bypass - 3rd east side bypass, EIS in progress
It could also be argued that Mitsubishi Motorway (US 150) acts as a 2nd west side bypass, although it terminates at IL 9 and only serves the northern half of the metroplex.

TheStranger

In San Jose, US 101 originally ran along First Street and Santa Clara Street; this was bypassed by the Bayshore Highway in the 1940s, first as a separate Bypass route (both surface street and then freeway versions), then as the main route post-1964, with the old surface streets becoming Route 82.

The 1990s Route 85, which loops between south San Jose and Mountain View, is a bypass of the Bayshore route.  One could also argue that I-280 serves as a Peninsula bypass for US 101 travelers, so this may be a case of triple-bypassing (depending on how this case is defined).

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agentsteel53

880/580 can also be considered a 101 bypass, to avoid downtown San Francisco.  but that's getting a bit distant.

for a similar example, we can go with old two-lane US-99 in the central valley (let's say Front Street in Selma as a random example), which was bypassed by the four-lane Golden State Blvd in the 30s, which then was bypassed by the Golden State Freeway in the 60s... which was then bypassed between Wheeler Ridge and Sacramento by I-5???
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Rick Powell

Quote from: Rick Powell on March 28, 2011, 04:44:06 PM
Bloomington-Normal, IL:

It could also be argued that Mitsubishi Motorway (US 150) acts as a 2nd west side bypass, although it terminates at IL 9 and only serves the northern half of the metroplex.


I think the county is doing a study on extending Mitsubishi Motorway all the way down to Shirley Road.  If this is done, it truly will be the 2nd western bypass of B-N, a town with more N-S bypasses than you can shake a stick at.

TheStranger

Quote from: agentsteel53 on March 29, 2011, 03:25:17 PM
880/580 can also be considered a 101 bypass, to avoid downtown San Francisco.  but that's getting a bit distant.

It does follow much of the old US 101E so there COULD be an argument there, albeit a bit tenuous...

One could argue that US 50 in Sacramento has been double-bypassed or more:

original route: Folsom Boulevard, then into downtown/midtown via Capitol Avenue, then 15th/16th Street south to Broadway, Broadway east to Stockton, Stockton south

Bypass US 50: shortcut via 65th Street and 14th Avenue connecting Folsom and Stockton

later US 50 route: Folsom Boulevard west to what was then I-80, then I-80 west to Route 99 south

current US 50 route: El Dorado Freeway west to Business 80, and then concurrent with Business 80 to West Sacramento
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Truvelo

Quote from: NE2 on March 24, 2011, 12:52:02 AM
Quote from: KillerTux on March 24, 2011, 12:49:13 AM
Here is a Triple ByPass side by side. Flintstone, MD  :D
Old National Road/US 40 now Gilpin Road was bypassed in the early 50's with "new" US 40 now MD 144. In 1991 it was bypassed with I-68.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=MD-144+W%2FBaltimore+Pike%2FNational+Pike+NE&daddr=Flintstone,+MD+21530&hl=en&geocode=FfCvXQIdjYRR-w%3BFRDSXQIdiCVR-ykjcIFk1WDKiTGJlxpywpxPTg&gl=us&mra=mift&mrsp=0&sz=16&sll=39.694425,-78.540251&sspn=0.01273,0.027487&ie=UTF8&ll=39.694326,-78.543749&spn=0.012796,0.027487&t=h&z=16
That's only a double, unless Gilpin is a bypass of something else.
If you look at Gilpin below the green A marker you'll see the bend has been straightened. This makes it three :colorful:
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KillerTux

Quote from: Truvelo on March 30, 2011, 04:50:38 AM
Quote from: NE2 on March 24, 2011, 12:52:02 AM
Quote from: KillerTux on March 24, 2011, 12:49:13 AM
Here is a Triple ByPass side by side. Flintstone, MD  :D
Old National Road/US 40 now Gilpin Road was bypassed in the early 50's with "new" US 40 now MD 144. In 1991 it was bypassed with I-68.
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=MD-144+W%2FBaltimore+Pike%2FNational+Pike+NE&daddr=Flintstone,+MD+21530&hl=en&geocode=FfCvXQIdjYRR-w%3BFRDSXQIdiCVR-ykjcIFk1WDKiTGJlxpywpxPTg&gl=us&mra=mift&mrsp=0&sz=16&sll=39.694425,-78.540251&sspn=0.01273,0.027487&ie=UTF8&ll=39.694326,-78.543749&spn=0.012796,0.027487&t=h&z=16
That's only a double, unless Gilpin is a bypass of something else.
If you look at Gilpin below the green A marker you'll see the bend has been straightened. This makes it three :colorful:
Yep. Check out a historical photo of that bend being by-passed.

National Road on Polish Mountain by Christopher Busta-Peck, on Flickr

Truvelo

Is it me or is the new road in that photo just one lane wide? It doesn't look any wider than the old road.
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RoadWarrior56

An obvious bypass of a bypass that I don't think has been mentioned in this thread so far...............Lafayette-West Lafayette, IN.  US 52 presumably originally went through the heart of town.  The original bypass was constructed norht and east sometime in the 30's or 40's for US 52 to bypass Lafayette and West Lafayette.  Anybody familiar with this area (I was a Purdue student for 4+ years, not possible to forget), knows that the so-called US 52 bypass is a 4-lane urban throughfare full of driveways and signals.  Come the 1970's, I-65 bypasses that old bypass, also on the east.  Now you have US 231 gradually bypassing the area on the west side.

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ME88 is old US1; US1 in that corridor is bypassed by I-295.
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I-294 was built as a bypass of Chicago, and 39's main purpose was to be a "super" bypass of Chicago for St. Louis-Wisconsin traffic. In the middle of that, I-355 was built, and the Prairie Parkway and the Illiana Expressway are being studied. I'm not sure what surface streets were built as bypasses, but now they have a bypass of a bypass of a bypass all inside a bypass in the plans. Truly mind-boggling!
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There have long been plans to build a new US-29 bypass in Charlottesville to bypass the existing bypass, which itself is no longer much of a bypass because it dumps you into an area with heavy commercial development on both sides for several miles north of town (an area that was predominantly rural when the bypass was built).

I have my doubts as to whether the new bypass will ever be built. Aside from the fact that it's been discussed since the 1980s, the odds are seriously against it because its proposed path would have a negative effect on the reservoir unless they went so far out of the way as to increase the cost big-time.
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What about I-264 and 265 around Louisville?