Historic Thomas Brothers Maps (56k warning)

[Bigmikelakers]

[Roadmapfan66]

One more request for SimMoonXP, for the area of the Glendale Freeway in your map books to be scanned starting with 1960 or 1962 all the way to 1978 (1980) after construction was completed on CA state route 2, Glendale Freeway through Glendale, CA and Interstate 5 and 210 connections included.  There is a Mexican Food Restaurant located near the CA 2 (Glendale Freeway) and CA 134 (Ventura Freeway) where my parents used to take and my brother Steve Presnal out to dinner on Friday nights in the 1970s.    

Scott C. Presnal
Morro Bay, CA

BTW I am updating my 20centurymaps.com list to include 12 maps for the period of May and June 2011, three of them are for the San Fernando Valley, Union 76, etc.

--- SCP

[Bigmikelakers]

SimMoon, can you post CA 60 Pomona Fwy being proposed and under construction from LA to Pomona?

[Desert Man]

I have another request: Orange County state freeway project routes 22, 55 and 57 when they were in construction in the late half of the 1960's. About a total of 9 or 10 pages of the Orange County TBM guides, so it shouldn't load too long on the page. Watch the formation of the "Orange Crush" 5-way interchange inside Santa Ana city limits.

Also you may see Angel Field (Anaheim Stadium) appear circa 1965 and to the right of the Orange Freeway: the Honda Center (Arrowhead Pond) around 1993. The city of Orange extends across south of the sports venue sites and claims the City or Mainplace shopping malls.

[Bigmikelakers]

Wow thanks for that SimMoon!

[hm insulators]

It sure is interesting to see all these old maps. I love to see historic maps and how things have changed.

I have one request for SimMoonXP and others: Can you please limit the amount of pictures you put in a single post to say 10 or so? There's a lot of high quality images in this thread--including one post that had over 50 (!) images in it alone--and too many on one page may make it difficult to load. My browser got hung up for several minutes just now trying to load everything. Thanks!

Same here. My browser won't even show most of the maps you were kind enough to upload, and yesterday, I had to reboot the computer; it just would not download the images at all! Perhaps post them one or two at a time.
Post Merge: May 20, 2011, 12:40:29 AM
Thanks for all the maps! I just wish the ones of Glendora and La Canada Flintridge would download properly. Still, it's interesting to watch the greater Los Angeles area grow down through the decades.

[Roadmapfan66]

I would like to see scans of California State Route 57. the Orange Freeway from your old Thomas Guides from Interstate 5 (U.S. 101) to Interstate 10, and the Former Interstate 210 portion now signed as the Orange Freeway, CA 57 if you dont mind SimMoonXP from whenever the route first appeared on those atlases you have to the under construction and open to traffic stages, post 1975.   --- SCP   Morro Bay, CA

[Roadmapfan66]

SimMoonXP can you post before and after construction of the Interstate 5. U.S. 6 & 99 Golden State Freeway from old U.S. 6 Sierra Highway/CA 14 Antelope Valley Freeway to Interstate 10, Santa Monica Freeway.  As well as Interstate 10 from Interstate 5 to Santa Monica, before and after under construction segments.  (I-5, U.S. 6/99 1954, 1957 1960 etc., to 1966 when U.S. 99 wasn't co-signed to I-5) (I-10, 1960, 1962, 1964 - 1965).   --- SCP   Still waiting for those scans of CA 57 Orange Freeway before and after construction too.

[hm insulators]

I remember the rinky-dink little cloverleaf where the 55 tied into the 5 until about 15 years ago. What a joke that was!

Would it be possible to put only one or two pictures per post instead of a half dozen to a dozen? This computer does not like all your multiple pictures on just one post.

[agentsteel53]

I remember the rinky-dink little cloverleaf where the 55 tied into the 5 until about 15 years ago. What a joke that was!

we actually have this photo from 1986 of signage from that interchange

[Bigmikelakers]

I remember the rinky-dink little cloverleaf where the 55 tied into the 5 until about 15 years ago. What a joke that was!

I think that interchange was so bad because it was originally meant to be the Tustin Ave exit from I-5/US 101 according to the 1962 map. However, they probably built the cloverleaf with the future freeway in mind.

[Bigmikelakers]

I-805 (1968)

[Desert Man]

Oh boy! this is gonna be fun. On Historic map works.com, one can read the entire 1956-57 Los Angeles County Thomas guides. http://www.historicmapworks.com/Atlas/US/11559/Los+Angeles+County+1957+Street+Atlas/
The US 99 and 101 freeways, now interstates 5 and 10 wasn't quite around and completion occurred in the late end of the 1950s.

[Bigmikelakers]

Oh boy! this is gonna be fun. On Historic map works.com, one can read the entire 1956-57 Los Angeles County Thomas guides. http://www.historicmapworks.com/Atlas/US/11559/Los+Angeles+County+1957+Street+Atlas/
The US 99 and 101 freeways, now interstates 5 and 10 wasn't quite around and completion occurred in the late end of the 1950s.

Nice! Thanks for the link!

[Roadmapfan66]

SimMoonXP do you have any scans of the Golden State Freeway from 1955 era to 1970 from U.S. 6/99 split now CA 14 to Interstate 10 west, Santa Monica Freeway, as another request for Interstate 5, U.S. 6 & 99. Sylmar, San Fernando, Burbank, Glendale, Los Angeles, (Boyle Heights, East Los Angeles)?  I would appreciate that to have that happen too, please.

Scott C. Presnal
Morro Bay, CA

[cahwyguy]

I just want to thank everyone for all the posts here. I'm doing updates to California Highways today, and they've been very interesting (most of the historic routings I knew). I do find it interesting that none of the maps posted have shown the extension of Route 14 S from the I-5/Route 14 interchange, continuing down Reseda and across to meet Route 1 near Temescal/Sunset.

[agentsteel53]

with regard to the last map you posted...

Harbor Drive at 8th St was really a full freeway at one point?  It's labeled "Montgomery Fwy".  Nowadays, though, it is a divided arterial. 

[TheStranger]

Harbor Drive at 8th St was really a full freeway at one point?  It's labeled "Montgomery Fwy".  Nowadays, though, it is a divided arterial. 

I've always assumed that that was the case before I-5 was built (when Harbor was US 101).  I recall that being the labeling on vintage maps...

What I wonder: with I-5 north of National City now in existence, does that mean that the Harbor/I-5 junction is the official start of the Montgomery Freeway today, or does the designation extend to Route 94?

[Roadmapfan66]

I wonder if you SimMoonXP have any Thomas Brothers street atlases covering Sacramento  for Interstate 5 and Interstate 8, as well as old Interstate 880 from the 1960s to 1970s, you may want to include any such routing for CA state route 65, 244 etc., too.

Scott C. Presnal
Morro Bay, CA

[Bigmikelakers]

SimMoon, can you post maps of old highway 101 from Oceanside to San Diego from 1961?

[CenVlyDave]

Enjoying looking over this thread.  Have a few requests of my own, any one have any San Bernardino County TG maps showing the routing of CA 138 pre-Silverwood Lake, when the town of Cedar Springs was still around?  Would also love to see some pages of the San Berdo. Mtns, Crestline-Lake Arrowhead mainly.  Also, any maps showing the overlap of Hwys 2 and 138 into Crestline?  Thnx.

[Bigmikelakers]

[Alps]

I guess Cedar Springs was still around... in a way

[SimMoonXP]

Good maps. Should be called Cedar Springs Highway for Route 138 Bypass, but never name for it. And interesting stuff about the reservior water were "site" status. Which should be called Cedar Springs Reservior, but never name for it. My two favorite pages on your recent posts is Page 73 and 76 for your 1968 San Bernardino County Thomas Bros Map Popular Atlas.

[ARMOURERERIC]

Several weeks ago a post was made on the Northeast regional AA forum, and one of thje replies had this link:

http://www.historicaerials.com/aerials.php?scale=8.20197429930843E-06&lat=40.6421517830262&lon=-74.6444428844269&year=1979

The link will take you to a New Jersey arial image, but you can search anywhere in the US and get results.  I have spent alot of time viewing old images from San Diego, Oside and Escondido, and had some facinating imagery.  Especially note the evolution of routing at the southern end of the Lake Hodges bridge, El Cajon Blvd east of La Mesa and the progress of I-8 eastward.  You will have hours of fun.