I-376 to be Extended...Eventually

[PAHighways]

That's uncalled for, Jeff. If you know of any instances of plagiarism by Wikipedia editors, let me know and the offending text or images will be scrubbed and the user dealt with.

I'm not the first person to use that term on this message board.  It wasn't meant as a personal attack against any of the editors here but rather a general observation of plagiarism I have seen too often on that website.

When I have found things copied verbatim, which seemed to happen a lot when Wikipedia began, I have alerted people I know who are editors. Then there was an instance of someone using the handle "Pahighways" who was incorrectly editing Pennsylvania road articles, and I didn't even know about that until an editor I know informed me of the issues they were having with that person.

[J N Winkler]

Plus, the date information didn't actually come from Wikipedia.

[PAHighways]

I understand that information came from Scott's site.

[treichard]

Any news on PA 760?  Is it signed yet in Sharon or near I-80?

For a project I'm working on, I need to know if PA 760 will end at PA 418 & PA 718 or if it will extend (as PA 60 did) north along PA 718 up to US 62 Business. 

[J N Winkler]

PennDOT has just advertised a contract to rehabilitate a portion of former SR 60 Business (now I-376 Business) which runs from the southern I-376 interchange to Pittsburgh International Airport.  ECMS number is 78283 and there are about ten pages of sign design sheets.  This road is a full freeway, more or less, with the exception of a traffic signal at University Blvd., and part but not all of the length being worked on is on PennDOT's books as SR 3160.

[CanesFan27]

PennDOT has just advertised a contract to rehabilitate a portion of former SR 60 Business (now I-376 Business) which runs from the southern I-376 interchange to Pittsburgh International Airport.  ECMS number is 78283 and there are about ten pages of sign design sheets.  This road is a full freeway, more or less, with the exception of a traffic signal at University Blvd., and part but not all of the length being worked on is on PennDOT's books as SR 3160.

I think you mean the former terminal for the airport.  There is no direct access from Business 60/376 to the airport.  there is access to the Cargo terminals if that is what you are referring to.

[J N Winkler]

Yes, that is right; I wasn't talking about the terminal access.  The portion involved in this contract fringes the airport to the north and some of the signs being replaced are for the cargo terminals and other airport facilities which do not handle passengers.

[PAHighways]

This road is a full freeway, more or less, with the exception of a traffic signal at University Blvd., and part but not all of the length being worked on is on PennDOT's books as SR 3160.

As well as carrying the Orange Belt.

[PAHighways]

I-376 Re-designation Sign Installation Continues Tonight in Allegheny County

[rickmastfan67]

I-376 Re-designation Sign Installation Continues Tonight in Allegheny County

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!  This sounds like they are going to be replacing all the remaining Button Copy in Downtown!!!!

All of those signs Downtown are still in very good shape.

[rickmastfan67]

This topic has been moved to General Highway Talk.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=2619.0

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All of the Airport Guide Sign stuff has now been moved to it's own topic.

[Mr_Northside]

Re-post by request:

Looks like they're back at work replacing signs.

Noticed this from a PennDOT camera along I-79 (yes, I am bored enough to peep that shit, and then post about it)....


Of course, this new sign has a slight error, with that "West" next to the 376.  (The tab & destinations show the sign is obviously for both directions of the Parkway)

I'd like to think the reason PennDOT is/was pointing the camera close up to the sign was because they noticed the same thing.  Who knows.

[CanesFan27]

Jason Reighard sent along photos showing PA Business 60 has become Business Loop I-376 near Pittsburgh International Airport.

http://surewhynotnow.blogspot.com/2010/04/business-i-376-shields-now-up-near.html

[CanesFan27]

Ed Szuba sent some photos of the conversion along the Beaver Valley Expressway...wow a lot different than the all text, sequential numbered, button copy signs I saw when I drove this road regularly.

http://surewhynotnow.blogspot.com/2010/04/more-photos-from-pa-60-to-i-376.html

[rickmastfan67]

Jason Reighard sent along photos showing PA Business 60 has become Business Loop I-376 near Pittsburgh International Airport.

http://surewhynotnow.blogspot.com/2010/04/business-i-376-shields-now-up-near.html

Those are some ugly looking whiteouts behind the Business shields.....  Hey PENNDOT, other DOT's can post Business Interstate shields properly on BGS and don't have to add white boxes around them....

[Mr_Northside]

Over on the other side of the state, PennDOT proved they CAN properly post a Bus-I shield on a BGS...
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=York,+PA&sll=39.962598,-76.727745&sspn=0.04684,0.077162&g=York,+PA&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=York,+Pennsylvania&ll=39.915135,-76.704397&spn=0.046872,0.109863&z=14&layer=c&cbll=39.915251,-76.704458&panoid=kDrBRz3Zo4TeqdaXyccWZA&cbp=12,356.63,,0,-7.52

It seems that PA-Tpk 576 set the pretty ugly precedent of a whiteout behind a green-and-white shield. 

(Technically, at the US-22/66 SPUI in Delmont, the TPK-66 shields also do that, and those signs have been there for almost a decade now.)

[Alex]

Jason Reighard sent along photos showing PA Business 60 has become Business Loop I-376 near Pittsburgh International Airport.

http://surewhynotnow.blogspot.com/2010/04/business-i-376-shields-now-up-near.html

Those are some ugly looking whiteouts behind the Business shields.....  Hey PENNDOT, other DOT's can post Business Interstate shields properly on BGS and don't have to add white boxes around them....

The white box background is an option for posting Business Loop Interstate signage on guide signs. There was a proposal to upgrade it to recommended versus allowed; see page 41 (item 167) of http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2009/pdf/E9-28322.pdf

[treichard]

One would think it would suffice just to outwardly (and not inwardly) thicken the white shield border for use on green guide signs, where there's always some extra green space around the shield.  But keep it in a shield shape instead of expanding it to a distracting rectangle.

[agentsteel53]

I think Nevada has had white squares for business loops as far back as the late 1990s. 

[rickmastfan67]

Jason Reighard sent along photos showing PA Business 60 has become Business Loop I-376 near Pittsburgh International Airport.

http://surewhynotnow.blogspot.com/2010/04/business-i-376-shields-now-up-near.html

Those are some ugly looking whiteouts behind the Business shields.....  Hey PENNDOT, other DOT's can post Business Interstate shields properly on BGS and don't have to add white boxes around them....

The white box background is an option for posting Business Loop Interstate signage on guide signs. There was a proposal to upgrade it to recommended versus allowed; see page 41 (item 167) of http://edocket.access.gpo.gov/2009/pdf/E9-28322.pdf

Still, it looks ugly as heck.

[mightyace]

Was the white box background done to be sure the sign covered up the old BUS PA 60 signs?

[rickmastfan67]

Was the white box background done to be sure the sign covered up the old BUS PA 60 signs?

Highly unlikely.  If you look hard enough at the Exit #51 BL I-376 signs, you can clearly see a Greenout that covers the entire width of the sign.  Because nothing else changed on it:
http://maps.google.com/maps?client=firefox-a&hl=en&ie=UTF8&layer=c&cbll=40.506435,-80.281312&panoid=csoZqmOlZoQRLkMZIsnLZA&cbp=12,21.16,,0,0.08&ll=40.506613,-80.281252&spn=0,359.986063&z=17

However, I'm just hoping this is a temporary band-aid like on some of the signs on the Parkway West.  Because a few signs got greenovers when I-376 was placed on it, but then later got brand new signs.  I'm just hoping if they are temporary band-aids, that the new signs have no white box around the BL I-376 shields.

[mightyace]

Highly unlikely.  If you look hard enough at the Exit #51 BL I-376 signs, you can clearly see a Greenout that covers the entire width of the sign.

I looked at those images and I still can't see it.  But, I'm glad you can.  Thanks for the information.

[rickmastfan67]

Highly unlikely.  If you look hard enough at the Exit #51 BL I-376 signs, you can clearly see a Greenout that covers the entire width of the sign.

I looked at those images and I still can't see it.  But, I'm glad you can.  Thanks for the information.

Guess it kinda helps that I have a LCD monitor and can see the color difference.

[mightyace]

Highly unlikely.  If you look hard enough at the Exit #51 BL I-376 signs, you can clearly see a Greenout that covers the entire width of the sign.

I looked at those images and I still can't see it.  But, I'm glad you can.  Thanks for the information.

Guess it kinda helps that I have a LCD monitor and can see the color difference.

I have an LCD monitor but it's using VGA (analog) input as I couldn't get it to work with DVI!