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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3225 on: September 19, 2019, 12:07:38 PM »

they arent done designing it.
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3226 on: September 21, 2019, 11:40:06 PM »

Which is what makes Exit 200 on the northeast side not make sense. It will not be 37 miles around the 465 beltway to connect the two I-69 interchanges. Yeah, making it 200 is easier on those who remember it as 0 and so on. INDOT as usual thinks people will care less about the technicality. It does make it harder if you want to see how long I-69 will be across the state. With most interstates that use mileage-based exits you can look at the last exit and make a guess as to how long. With I-69, it will not be close to 357 miles in length.

INDOT did that to lessen possible confusion when all of the MPs and interchange numbers were changed on the existing I-69 northeast of I-465 - just add 200 to each of them.

Mike
Exactly, Mike.

BTW, this is why I objected to the entire "southern extension" project being called I-69 in the first place. The Indy to Evansville to Memphis portion SHOULD HAVE been designated as I-63, with sections further south and west being assigned appropriate  numbers that fit into the original grid. And yes, the W-E Lansing to Port Huron/Sarnia stretch should not be I-69 either (I-98 would've fit). But that's all water under the (Blue Water) bridge at this point.
They wanted a single number running border to border. That's why it's all I-69.
I-69 makes sense up til Memphis imho. South of Memphis, I would've designated I-69 via I-40 and decommissioned I-30 (east of Texarkana) and I-369's entirety. The current I-69 via Mississippi and all can be I-63. But alas, that's all fictional territory.
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3227 on: September 28, 2019, 04:11:25 PM »

Nope. It won’t be under construction for another couple of years at least.
Someone likely confused recent construction along I-465 in that vicinity with work on the future I-69 interchange.
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3228 on: September 28, 2019, 09:08:56 PM »

Nope. It won’t be under construction for another couple of years at least.
Someone likely confused recent construction along I-465 in that vicinity with work on the future I-69 interchange.

INDOT has plans to reconstruct and widen the whole southern leg of I-465. That construction will be happening at the same time they'll be building the new interchange for I-69. Last I heard is the I-69 interchange with I-465 is scheduled to start construction in 2021 with completion scheduled for 2024.
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3229 on: October 03, 2019, 03:15:46 PM »

For those folks in central Indiana later this month (I'm not), INDOT is holding public meetings for section 6 information. https://t.co/EVUkQkWLKl. Three dates this month.
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3230 on: October 09, 2019, 02:11:36 PM »


Today, October 9th, was the date the bids were to be opened for the mainline Martinsville segment (Contract R -33493-A). Two week ago, however, INDOT withdrew the contract from the letting schedule. No reason was given, but given the size and complexity of the contract it shouldn't be a surprise the letting date has been pushed back. At this time, the letting of Contract R -33493-A has not been rescheduled.

If the contract is let before the end of the year, which will most likely happen, little or no delay in the Martinsville segment's completion date should be expected as construction will still commence, as before, in the spring of 2020. That is, barring any further delays. Additional details about the contract letting and updated construction schedule will likely be provided at the Morgan County I-69 Section 6 Project Update meeting, to be held Monday, October 21 at Martinsville High School.

Link: INDOT Notice of Contract# R -33493-A Letting Withdraw: https://www.in.gov/dot/div/contracts/letting/archive/2019/oct09/withdraw%20R-33493-A.PDF
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3231 on: October 09, 2019, 06:00:40 PM »


Today, October 9th, was the date the bids were to be opened for the mainline Martinsville segment (Contract R -33493-A). Two week ago, however, INDOT withdrew the contract from the letting schedule. No reason was given, but given the size and complexity of the contract it shouldn't be a surprise the letting date has been pushed back. At this time, the letting of Contract R -33493-A has not been rescheduled.

Update. The letting of Contract R-33493-A has been rescheduled for November 14th. Apparently, due to revisions of the contract, INDOT wanted to ensure bidders had enough time to review the changes and adjust their bids, if necessary. So the letting date was pushed out a month.

Link: Indiana Department of Transportation Notice to Highway Contractors (Contract R-33493-A): https://www.in.gov/dot/div/contracts/letting/archive/2019/nov14/20191114-R33493A-NTC.PDF

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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3232 on: October 15, 2019, 12:31:04 PM »

Since it looks like I69 will be called exit 163 once it reaches 465 and it will be Exit 5 on 465 and 37 on 465 when 69 goes north. it will be 5 miles that disappear once it reaches Exit 200. It may not be a big deal but I wish they would correct this because the mileage will be incorrect on north 69
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3233 on: October 15, 2019, 05:59:09 PM »

Since it looks like I69 will be called exit 163 once it reaches 465 and it will be Exit 5 on 465 and 37 on 465 when 69 goes north. it will be 5 miles that disappear once it reaches Exit 200. It may not be a big deal but I wish they would correct this because the mileage will be incorrect on north 69
Not worth adding just 5 miles onto the exit numbers with all the confusion that would occur IMO. Seems solely a road-geek thing that doesn't affect the motoring public much.
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3234 on: October 15, 2019, 07:52:11 PM »

It's actually more like 16 miles. If you follow the proposed I-69 routing along I-465 on the south and east sides of Indy, as is currently proposed, the mile markers go from 163 on the south side to 184 on the north side. Ergo, current Exit 200 at I-69 and I-465 on the northeast side would really need to be Exit 184.
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3235 on: October 16, 2019, 09:31:51 AM »

It's actually more like 16 miles. If you follow the proposed I-69 routing along I-465 on the south and east sides of Indy, as is currently proposed, the mile markers go from 163 on the south side to 184 on the north side. Ergo, current Exit 200 at I-69 and I-465 on the northeast side would really need to be Exit 184.

While this adjustment would cost INDOT thousands of dollars, the billboard company’s would make money over this!
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3236 on: October 16, 2019, 12:25:35 PM »

It's actually more like 16 miles. If you follow the proposed I-69 routing along I-465 on the south and east sides of Indy, as is currently proposed, the mile markers go from 163 on the south side to 184 on the north side. Ergo, current Exit 200 at I-69 and I-465 on the northeast side would really need to be Exit 184.
If I-69's concurrency runs around the northwest side of I-465 instead, that number increases to 195. I also tried to have it follow and replace I-865, but even with a new full interchange at I-65/I-865, it's too long, increasing to 202.
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3237 on: October 16, 2019, 04:51:10 PM »

It's actually more like 16 miles. If you follow the proposed I-69 routing along I-465 on the south and east sides of Indy, as is currently proposed, the mile markers go from 163 on the south side to 184 on the north side. Ergo, current Exit 200 at I-69 and I-465 on the northeast side would really need to be Exit 184.
If I-69's concurrency runs around the northwest side of I-465 instead, that number increases to 195. I also tried to have it follow and replace I-865, but even with a new full interchange at I-65/I-865, it's too long, increasing to 202.
Seems like a completely out-of-way routing as opposed to the existing direct connection.
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3238 on: October 16, 2019, 06:02:02 PM »

It's actually more like 16 miles. If you follow the proposed I-69 routing along I-465 on the south and east sides of Indy, as is currently proposed, the mile markers go from 163 on the south side to 184 on the north side. Ergo, current Exit 200 at I-69 and I-465 on the northeast side would really need to be Exit 184.
If I-69's concurrency runs around the northwest side of I-465 instead, that number increases to 195. I also tried to have it follow and replace I-865, but even with a new full interchange at I-65/I-865, it's too long, increasing to 202.
Seems like a completely out-of-way routing as opposed to the existing direct connection.
I'm going for less concurrencies here. On I-465,
Between SR 37 and US 31: 4 routes, not counting 37 (since it will be decommissioned), 465 (main route number), or 69 (indeterminate location)
Between US 31 and I-65: 5 routes
Between I-65 and I-74: 5 routes
Between I-74 and US 52: 4 routes
Between US 52 and US 40: 6 routes
Between US 40 and I-70: 5 routes
Between I-70 and US 36: 5 routes
Between US 36 and I-69: 3 routes
Between I-69 and US 31: 3 routes
Between US 31 and US 421: 2 routes
Between US 421 and I-865: 1 route
Between I-865 and I-65: No concurrencies
Between I-65 and I-74/US 136: No concurrencies
Between I-74/US 136 and US 36: 1 route
Between US 36 and US 40: 2 routes
Between US 40 and I-70: 3 routes
Between I-70 and SR 67: 3 routes
Between SR 67 and SR 37: 4 routes

There's sign spaghetti or unsigned routes on the southeast side and almost nothing to sign on the northwest side.
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