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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3600 on: January 16, 2021, 10:29:43 PM »

How much work and ROW would be needed to get the I-67 designation from Westfield to I-465?

US 31 is already freeway from I-465 to just north of Westfield. That's not long enough to get an I-67 designation. It could qualify for an I-x65 designation, but I've not heard any suggesting that the state pursue that designation.

Not to mention that INDOT plans to make the corridor a freeway all the way to Kokomo for now. An interstate designation is probably still years away, but even a temporary 3di would be beneficial as it would allow the speed limit to go to 70 under Indiana law.

I don't think Indiana is going to apply for a 3di unless they are giving up on eventually making it I-67. I don't see them putting up one set of signs just to go back and re-sign everything again later.

You're right that INDOT likely wouldn't go for one, it was more of a wish on my part given the speed limit situation. Until I-69 is done there probably won't be a lot to hear about regarding more 31 upgrades.

Are the US 31 upgrades to interstate standards?
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3601 on: January 17, 2021, 03:34:44 PM »

How much work and ROW would be needed to get the I-67 designation from Westfield to I-465?

US 31 is already freeway from I-465 to just north of Westfield. That's not long enough to get an I-67 designation. It could qualify for an I-x65 designation, but I've not heard any suggesting that the state pursue that designation.
The entire US-31 corridor between Indianapolis and South Bend could be designated as Future I-67, with the portion closer to I-465 that meets interstate standards actually receiving the I-67 designation.
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3602 on: January 17, 2021, 04:06:36 PM »

How much work and ROW would be needed to get the I-67 designation from Westfield to I-465?

US 31 is already freeway from I-465 to just north of Westfield. That's not long enough to get an I-67 designation. It could qualify for an I-x65 designation, but I've not heard any suggesting that the state pursue that designation.
The entire US-31 corridor between Indianapolis and South Bend could be designated as Future I-67, with the portion closer to I-465 that meets interstate standards actually receiving the I-67 designation.
Or in INDOT fashion, have I-67 in 3 segments:

I-465 to Westfield
Kokomo Bypass
Plymouth to South Bend.
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3603 on: January 17, 2021, 08:03:09 PM »

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Kokomo would not work because it does not attach to any other interstate highway.

Plymouth to South Bend technically does but the interchange with US-20 is substandard and the freeway near South Bend may need to be upgraded further to reach I-80 / I-90.
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3604 on: January 17, 2021, 09:23:46 PM »

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Kokomo would not work because it does not attach to any other interstate highway.

Plymouth to South Bend technically does but the interchange with US-20 is substandard and the freeway near South Bend may need to be upgraded further to reach I-80 / I-90.

and the approach to the us 20 interchange is substandard too.
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3605 on: January 18, 2021, 01:18:43 PM »

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Kokomo would not work because it does not attach to any other interstate highway.

Plymouth to South Bend technically does but the interchange with US-20 is substandard and the freeway near South Bend may need to be upgraded further to reach I-80 / I-90.

and the approach to the us 20 interchange is substandard too.

The tight cloverleaf interchange between US-20 and US-31 would be difficult and costly to upgrade. They've allowed commercial development right up to the interchange ramps. There is also a large power substation adjacent to the southwest quadrant of the interchange that would have to be relocated before any upgrade of the interchange could take place, in addition to the condemnation/relocation of numerous residents and businesses.

The option I see that minimizes impacts to the surrounding homes and businesses would be to construct a flyover from US-31 NB to US-20 WB, and to straighten and add a second lane to the US-20 EB to US-31 SB ramp. There would still be some properties taken for the project, but far fewer than fully converting the interchange to something that would meet modern interstate standards.
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3606 on: January 19, 2021, 04:57:32 PM »

Drove up to Martinsville yesterday for another look-see. As it was MLK Day, a national holiday, I figured no work would be occurring. I was wrong. The area was buzzing with workers and machines. Apparently, not a day is to be wasted, even a national holiday.

Photos were taken Monday, January 18, 2021, unless otherwise identified.

Indiana I-69 Corridor Project; Section 6, Segment 1; Martinsville, Indiana


Northbound Interstate 69 traffic (left lanes) detoured onto Morton Ave./State Road 39 in Martinsville, Indiana; looking south. State Road 37, now sealed off, is located on the left. Currently, all traffic to and from I-69 south of Martinsville, utilizes the newly built mainline I-69 southbound bridge over Indian Creek (located in the deep background, but not visible). The bridge carries three lanes of traffic: two northbound, one southbound.

In the foreground, the traffic light in the foreground denotes the Morton Ave./Rogers Road intersection. The light is a temporary installation and will be removed when the new I-69/SR 39 interchange with roundabouts completes.


The razing and complete removal of the old State Road 37 mainline bridges at the SR 37/SR 39 interchange; looking south. The bridges were where the excavator is positioned. In the foreground is the old ramp from SR 37 southbound to SR 39.


Closer look of the traffic diverted onto Morton Ave./SR 39 just south of Martinsville proper. In the background just below the cell phone tower (expand the photo) is a crane positioned near Indian Creek. The northbound mainline bridge over the creek has now be demolished.


Broad perspective of the construction zone near what used to be the SR 37/SR 39 interchange; looking south. The rubble in the foreground was the SR 37 southbound ramp to SR 39.


Another view of the work underway to completely remove the mainline bridges at what was the SR 37/SR 39 interchange; looking south.
 
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3607 on: January 19, 2021, 05:38:34 PM »


Another batch. Photos were taken Monday, January 18, 2021, unless otherwise noted.


Repositioning an asphalt milling machine near the Burton Lane/SR 37 crossing; looking east.


The milling machine, a Wirtgen W220i.


Large articulated dump trucks slowly back up toward the milling machine to receive additional material; looking east.


Grinding off a layer of asphalt; looking southwest. The road running across the frame is Burton Lane. In the background right, the slight elevation indicates the location of the SR 37/SR 39 interchange, now demolished.


Closer look of the milling operation.


Loaded up, with another truck moving into position. The milled material was being re-purposed as fill about a mile up the roadway just north of the Mahalasville Road/Ohio Street crossing.

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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3608 on: January 20, 2021, 08:16:34 AM »

I noticed in the earlier batch of photos that the Wirtgen scraper is brand new. Less than a year old. Probably purchased/leased for this I-69 contract.
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3609 on: January 20, 2021, 01:37:43 PM »

Drove up to Martinsville yesterday for another look-see. As it was MLK Day, a national holiday, I figured no work would be occurring. I was wrong. The area was buzzing with workers and machines. Apparently, not a day is to be wasted, even a national holiday.

Photos were taken Monday, January 18, 2021, unless otherwise identified.

Indiana I-69 Corridor Project; Section 6, Segment 1; Martinsville, Indiana


Northbound Interstate 69 traffic (left lanes) detoured onto Morton Ave./State Road 39 in Martinsville, Indiana; looking south. State Road 37, now sealed off, is located on the left. Currently, all traffic to and from I-69 south of Martinsville, utilizes the newly built mainline I-69 southbound bridge over Indian Creek (located in the deep background, but not visible). The bridge carries three lanes of traffic: two northbound, one southbound.

In the foreground, the traffic light in the foreground denotes the Morton Ave./Rogers Road intersection. The light is a temporary installation and will be removed when the new I-69/SR 39 interchange with roundabouts completes.


The razing and complete removal of the old State Road 37 mainline bridges at the SR 37/SR 39 interchange; looking south. The bridges were where the excavator is positioned. In the foreground is the old ramp from SR 37 southbound to SR 39.


Closer look of the traffic diverted onto Morton Ave./SR 39 just south of Martinsville proper. In the background just below the cell phone tower (expand the photo) is a crane positioned near Indian Creek. The northbound mainline bridge over the creek has now be demolished.


Broad perspective of the construction zone near what used to be the SR 37/SR 39 interchange; looking south. The rubble in the foreground was the SR 37 southbound ramp to SR 39.


Another view of the work underway to completely remove the mainline bridges at what was the SR 37/SR 39 interchange; looking south.

Git 'r done!

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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3610 on: January 20, 2021, 03:43:05 PM »


Before I post another set of photos, a comment about the recent weather here in south-central Indiana. It's been good, real good. Day and night temperatures have been about average, maybe even a tad above normal, with just a little snow. More significantly, however, there has yet to be an intense, bitter cold snap, with temps dropping in single digits or below. This has been a blessing for the contractors working on Section 6, as the ground has stayed generally unfrozen. To be sure, temps have been falling in the low 20s at night, but daytime warming is keeping the ground from becoming hard as a rock. In Bloomington, the high temp tomorrow, Thursday, January 21, 2020, is projected to be 48 degrees. That's well above average for this time of year. The 10 day forecast projects a continuation of seasonal temperatures, with little to no snow.

So, all in all, the weather has been cooperating big time, allowing the heavy construction in Martinsville and to the north to get off to a roaring start. Yes, it can suddenly change, but with the seasonal temps of January it bodes well that February will more of the same. Moreover, it's only 39 days till the warmer days of March.

To flashback on severe Indiana winter weather, seven years ago we had the Polar Vortex, which brought weeks of bitter cold to much of the country. And who can forget the infamous Blizzard of 1978, if you were around then. People had to be rescued by the National Guard from cars and trucks buried in snow drifts on interstates, and schools were closed for two full weeks. It was, to say the least, memorable. Here's a couple of videos:



Here's another batch of pictures. Photos were taken Monday, January 18, 2020, unless otherwise noted.

Indiana I-69 Corridor Project; Section 6, Segment 1; Martinsville, Indiana

Looking south from the Grand Valley Blvd. overpass in Martinsville, Indiana, toward old State Road 37. Crews have removed the shoulders of the roadway and have milled off most of the asphalt overlay.


Closer perspective looking south from the Grand Valley Blvd. overpass. Excavation work is underway in preparation to construct new mainline bridges over a rerouted Sartor Ditch. This project is a priority because the small creek must be realigned before heavy construction can begin on the I-69/Mahalasville Road/Ohio Street interchange.


Different perspective of the work ongoing to reroute Sartor Ditch; looking slightly east. In the foreground where the dozer is located, fill material is being put down to form the base for the southbound exit ramp of the Mahalasville Road/Ohio Street interchange.


Another view. The pile driving rigging on the ground in the background (the yellow piece) indicates that pile driving or drilling will soon commence for the new bridges over rerouted Sartor Ditch.


Looking south toward the Mahalasville Road/Ohio Street crossing. Articulated dump trucks are hauling milled material from the Burton Lane vicinity (see pictures in previous post) to use as fill material. The tube culvert pictured is one of two carrying Sartor Ditch underneath State Road 37; the adjacent one is hidden by the brush.

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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3611 on: January 20, 2021, 10:23:16 PM »

Hopefully they will replace those tube culverts for Sartor Ditch, with large box culverts.

I have a feeling that once they finish I-69 northeast of town that waterflow down the ditch will actually increase.

But that is just my opinion.
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3612 on: January 20, 2021, 11:14:51 PM »

Hopefully they will replace those tube culverts for Sartor Ditch, with large box culverts.

I have a feeling that once they finish I-69 northeast of town that waterflow down the ditch will actually increase.

But that is just my opinion.

Initially, I, too, thought they'd replace the tube culverts with a large box culvert. But that will not be the case. Instead, mainline bridges with precast concrete beams will built over Sartor Ditch. The creek will be realigned to flow underneath I-69 a little further north than it presently does under State Road 37. That's what the construction pictured in the above photos depict. Excavation is now underway to form the new channel for the creek, with construction of the new mainline bridges to soon follow.

The drawings for the new bridges over Sartor Ditch can be found by searching the INDOT document page here. Enter Contract #33493 where indicated, then under Plan/Drawing Sets select and download the drawing set for FT Plans 1800360 for Contract Services, found on the second page of the available plan/drawing sets (the pages are indicated by numbers at the bottom of the list).

Edit: Please note that FT plan/drawing number 1800360 referenced above is not correct. The correct file name/number is: FT Plans 1800348 1800350 for Contract Services.

Here, again, is a picture which shows both the present and new channel of Sartor Ditch:

The present Sartor Ditch channel is on the left and is indicated by the twin tube culverts; the new channel is on the right; looking north.

Edit: Added note to correct the FT plan/drawing for the bridges over Sartor Ditch.

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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3613 on: January 21, 2021, 12:20:07 AM »

One last set. Photos were taken Monday, January 18, 2020, unless otherwise noted.

Indiana I-69 Corridor Project; Section 6, Segment 1; Martinsville, Indiana

Looking north from the Grand Valley Blvd. overpass toward State Road 37 and the SR 252/Hospital Drive crossing. It had been dark and overcast, then suddenly the sun peeked out.


Closer look view just before the sun appeared; looking north.


Ah, the sun! Slightly closer perspective; looking north. It looks like a drainage culvert is being installed underneath the mainline roadways in the mid-background.


Another long range view. At the crest of the hill, the pile driving rigging has been shifted to east side of SR 37 for more pile driving for the I-69/SR 44 interchange.

This week, from the SR 37/Morgan Street crossing just north of Martinsville to the SR 37/SR 144 intersection in Johnson County, all State Road 37 traffic will be shifted to the northbound lanes of SR 37. Nearly 12 miles of concrete barrier wall will be placed to safely separate traffic from the construction work that will take place on the southbound lanes. This barrier work is ongoing now. Think about that for a second. Twelve miles ... of concrete Jersey barriers. Wow. Where might all those barriers be stored. And we're not looking at a few hundred, but several thousand. And the cost to transport and install! Undoubtedly, a very impressive figure.

Edit: Swapped out a photo for a better one.


 
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3614 on: January 21, 2021, 10:24:12 AM »

What a project! Thanks for sharing all these photographs. It really shows the scope of the improvements, and I love seeing the temporary configurations used during construction.
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3615 on: January 21, 2021, 10:26:23 AM »

Hopefully they will replace those tube culverts for Sartor Ditch, with large box culverts.

I have a feeling that once they finish I-69 northeast of town that waterflow down the ditch will actually increase.

But that is just my opinion.

Initially, I, too, thought they'd replace the tube culverts with a large box culvert. But that will not be the case. Instead, mainline bridges with precast concrete beams will built over Sartor Ditch. The creek will be realigned to flow underneath I-69 a little further north than it presently does under State Road 37. That's what the construction pictured in the above photos depict. Excavation is now underway to form the new channel for the creek, with construction of the new mainline bridges to soon follow.

The drawings for the new bridges over Sartor Ditch can be found by searching the INDOT document page here. Enter Contract #33493 where indicated, then under Plan/Drawing Sets select and download the drawing set for FT Plans 1800360 for Contract Services, found on the second page of the available plan/drawing sets (the pages are indicated by numbers at the bottom of the list).

Here, again, is a picture which shows both the present and new channel of Sartor Ditch:

The present Sartor Ditch channel is on the left and is indicated by the twin tube culverts; the new channel is on the right; looking north.

Thank you I will go back and look at those ground plans again.
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3616 on: January 21, 2021, 04:59:06 PM »

As always ITB, your photos are on point. Thanks for the photographic updates!
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3617 on: January 21, 2021, 06:12:19 PM »

One last set. Photos were taken Monday, January 18, 2020, unless otherwise noted.

Indiana I-69 Corridor Project; Section 6, Segment 1; Martinsville, Indiana

Looking north from the Grand Valley Blvd. overpass toward State Road 37 and the SR 252/Hospital Drive crossing. It had been dark and overcast, then suddenly the sun peeked out.

That demolished intersection right in the middle seems to be the former intersection for the Dodge dealership, which makes me wonder- where are they gonna put the new dealerships? They seem to have taken out at least two so far (Dodge and Ford) that were right up against 37, so they're gonna have to put new ones somewhere.
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3618 on: January 22, 2021, 03:26:03 AM »


^^^
There's a Ford dealership in Martinsville adjacent to State Road 37. Access is via Robert Curry Drive, which connects into Industrial Dr. and Commercial Blvd. Also, Flag Stone Dr. may have been extended to reach to the dealership.


Looking south from the Grand Valley Blvd. overpass. Photo was taken January 18, 2020.

Google maps has updated its satellite images for Martinsville and Morgan County. Although the images are from about a year ago, earth work is visible in the vicinity of the SR 37/Henderson Ford Road intersection, as well as other areas where new frontage roads were under construction.

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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3619 on: January 23, 2021, 10:57:15 AM »

While we're talking about Martinsville. I'd like to thank ITB for mentioning the contract number for the Martinsville section which allowed to research the signage plans for I-69. I know I mentioned it a year or so again but I thought I'd put up some of the images for the planned signage in Martinsville.



Starting off, there will be a special sign announcing the three exits for Martinsville, very similar to what previously existed along SR 37

Control cities are Indianapolis and Evansville and mileage signs mention them both north and south of Martinsville

Common for signage within Indiana cities the local street name is used with the state highway shield. This is curious since I had expected that the SR 252 exit would mention Morgantown and the SR 44 exit would sign Franklin. I'm not familiar with how well used the local street names are used in Martinsville, I had never heard of Reuben Drive until seeing this. SR 39 gets only Martinsville signed on its sign. Also there is no mention of SR 67 on the SR 39 sign as there is today.

Otherwise the signage planned for I-69 in Martinsville is pretty good and typical for Indiana. Now if only Sections 1-4 can get going with the mileage signs/northbound control city...cough...cough.
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3620 on: January 23, 2021, 02:45:39 PM »

While we're talking about Martinsville. I'd like to thank ITB for mentioning the contract number for the Martinsville section which allowed to research the signage plans for I-69. I know I mentioned it a year or so again but I thought I'd put up some of the images for the planned signage in Martinsville.



Starting off, there will be a special sign announcing the three exits for Martinsville, very similar to what previously existed along SR 37

Control cities are Indianapolis and Evansville and mileage signs mention them both north and south of Martinsville

Common for signage within Indiana cities the local street name is used with the state highway shield. This is curious since I had expected that the SR 252 exit would mention Morgantown and the SR 44 exit would sign Franklin. I'm not familiar with how well used the local street names are used in Martinsville, I had never heard of Reuben Drive until seeing this. SR 39 gets only Martinsville signed on its sign. Also there is no mention of SR 67 on the SR 39 sign as there is today.

Otherwise the signage planned for I-69 in Martinsville is pretty good and typical for Indiana. Now if only Sections 1-4 can get going with the mileage signs/northbound control city...cough...cough.

These sign drawings also seem to confirm that SR-37 will be de-signed along I-69 between Bloomington and Indianapolis once Section 6 to I-465 is completed.
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3621 on: January 23, 2021, 08:44:38 PM »

While we're talking about Martinsville. I'd like to thank ITB for mentioning the contract number for the Martinsville section which allowed to research the signage plans for I-69. I know I mentioned it a year or so again but I thought I'd put up some of the images for the planned signage in Martinsville.



Starting off, there will be a special sign announcing the three exits for Martinsville, very similar to what previously existed along SR 37

Control cities are Indianapolis and Evansville and mileage signs mention them both north and south of Martinsville

Common for signage within Indiana cities the local street name is used with the state highway shield. This is curious since I had expected that the SR 252 exit would mention Morgantown and the SR 44 exit would sign Franklin. I'm not familiar with how well used the local street names are used in Martinsville, I had never heard of Reuben Drive until seeing this. SR 39 gets only Martinsville signed on its sign. Also there is no mention of SR 67 on the SR 39 sign as there is today.

Otherwise the signage planned for I-69 in Martinsville is pretty good and typical for Indiana. Now if only Sections 1-4 can get going with the mileage signs/northbound control city...cough...cough.

These sign drawings also seem to confirm that SR-37 will be de-signed along I-69 between Bloomington and Indianapolis once Section 6 to I-465 is completed.

This is true.

For those wanting to check out the rest of the plans, the five contract numbers are R-40848, R-33493, R-33541, R-41542, and R-41536. The fifth (Fairview Road to I-465) doesn't seem to have plans available, though, and seems to be a design-build contract, unlike the other four.
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3622 on: January 24, 2021, 01:42:51 AM »



I'm having trouble visualizing the new route of the ditch. Is it going to be something like this?

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« Reply #3623 on: January 24, 2021, 05:27:21 PM »



I'm having trouble visualizing the new route of the ditch. Is it going to be something like this?




Pretty much so. Here's a map that depicts the course of rerouted Sartor Ditch:

I-69/Mahalasville Road/Ohio Street interchange; Martinsville, Indiana
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Re: Update on I-69 Extension in Indiana
« Reply #3624 on: January 24, 2021, 06:32:58 PM »

Very nice to see the signage that will going up in Martinsville. My thanks to tdindy88 for searching the documents and putting up the post.

So we have the following exits in Martinsville:

• Exit 137 — State Road 39
• Exit 138 — Ohio Street/Mahalasville Road
• Exit 139 — State Road 252/Hospital Dr.
• Exit 140 — State Road 44/Reuben Dr.

Although I'm not well versed in signage formalities, it seems the northbound I-69 signage for State Road 252/Hospital Dr. & SR 44/Reuben Dr. will be designated Exit 139, while, vice versa, the southbound signage will be Exit 140. Also, for northbound I-69, I'm wondering whether it would be prudent to mention Mooresville and Indianapolis International Airport on Exit 137 signage for State Road 39. Lots of traffic from south-central Indiana utilizes SR 39 and SR 67 to reach Mooreville and, further on, the airport. That's the routing the Bloomington airport shuttles have been following for many years. Of course, this may change will the completion of I-69 to I-465; then again it may not, as the SR 39/67 route will remain somewhat shorter in distance. And, count me, as well, as being surprised there is no mention of either Franklin or Morgantown on the signage.

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