WisDOT plans viewing

[SEWIGuy]

Quoting from a while back, I'd definitely like to see an I-x41 Spur on US45 between Oshkosh and Waupaca. US10 west of Appleton could *in theory* be signed as I-441,

Is US-45 / US-10 between Oshkosh and Waupaca full freeway?  I thought there were cross streets east of Waupaca.

[mgk920]

Quoting from a while back, I'd definitely like to see an I-x41 Spur on US45 between Oshkosh and Waupaca. US10 west of Appleton could *in theory* be signed as I-441,

Is US-45 / US-10 between Oshkosh and Waupaca full freeway?  I thought there were cross streets east of Waupaca.

The US 10 freeway currently ends at Railroad Grade Rd/Old 49 Rd west of Fremont.  IMHO, the only real technical hangup on designating US 45 from US(I)-41 (Algoma Interchange) to US 10 (Winchester Interchange) as a full interstate is at US(I)-41 - it is not a complete freeway-freeway interchange as the two SB to NB connections involve intersection turns.  Also, the spacing between the interchanges at US 10 and County 'II' at Winchester is very short.

OTOH, I can envision all of US 10 between US(I)-41 and I-39 someday becoming 'I-441' - the entire highway is designed to allow eventual upgrading to a full freeway (but I digress into the 'fantasy' highway realm).



Mike

[Scott5114]

Fictional highways content split off to https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=9930.msg232411

[on_wisconsin]

The September letting was released Friday (8/2), this months letting is pretty small which seems to par for course this time of year. Notable is the first (I have seen in plan form) I-41 BGS shields w/ green out instructions (on otherwise very forgettable signs).

Sept. 2013 Letting:  ftp://ftp.dot.wi.gov/dtsd/hcci/plansandproposals/2013/09September_10/
The two plan sets with I-41 shields: ftp://ftp.dot.wi.gov/dtsd/hcci/plansandproposals/2013/09September_10/20130910002plan.pdf, ftp://ftp.dot.wi.gov/dtsd/hcci/plansandproposals/2013/09September_10/20130910003plan.pdf

[Revive 755]

Second set does has I-41 cosigned with US 41, while the first set only has I-41 - interesting.

The second set also has a freeway entrance sign going in somewhere.

[on_wisconsin]

If anyone cares, the State won't be having any lettings this month as it is there annual "no let" month. Normal services should resume in October.

[on_wisconsin]

[thread revive]

The July (August) 2014 letting has a decent number of plans for midsummer, this month WisDOT also put up the plans for the first stage of the Zoo Interchange 'core' which has a separate bid date from the general lettings.

General letting: ftp://ftp.dot.wi.gov/dtsd/hcci/plansandproposals/2014/08August_12/

Zoo Interchange plan set: ftp://ftp.dot.wi.gov/dtsd/hcci/plansandproposals/2014/08August_26/

Here are a few signs capped from the Zoo IC plans:


Note: The I-41 shields will be greened out until the designation is in place. In addition, the Interstate shields are all kinds of wrong, because its a WisDOT SE region plan set, but the final product will most likely be fine.


Note: The fractions are messed up because it came out of the SE region, the final product will most likely be okay. Green out will cover the WIS 175 shield until I-41 is officially designated.

[Big John]

^^ So the 41 in the lower left sign on the first page won't be covered up?

[DaBigE]

^^ So the 41 in the lower left sign on the first page won't be covered up?

Why would they? It just uses the general term "hwy", not Interstate.

It's been a while since I looked at the Zoo Interchange plans...I thought they were removing all left side exits? Or is that just a temporary sign?

[Big John]

^^ The current US 41 does not go that way.  Being rerouted that way for interstate conversion.

[SSOWorld]

That's a temporary sign

It will be years before the interchange is done - they're rebuilding bridges and interchanges in order to build the approaches now.

[FightingIrish]

WisDOT has barely toched the Zoo Interchange itself, but they've been busy with various projects near it (i.e. This weekend's full I-94 closure to replace the railroad bridge near STH 100.

[colinstu]

Some more zoo-related side projects / preparations ftp://ftp.dot.wi.gov/dtsd/hcci/plansandproposals/2014/08August_12/20140812008plan.pdf nothing super interesting

ftp://ftp.dot.wi.gov/dtsd/hcci/plansandproposals/2014/08August_12/20140812012plan.pdf US-10 / US-41 / WI-441 interchange & bridge project

[mgk920]

So, will Miller Park Way become WI 175 all the way to National Ave (WI 59) after all?



BTW, in case anyone in here hasn't yet heard, I'm hosting a meet here in Appleton on Aug 16 (Saturday) to check out what's going on WRT US(I)-41, US 10, WI 29, WI 441, et al, both here and in the Green Bay area.  See the Road Enthusiasts Meetings subforvm for more details on this.



Mike

[colinstu]

I thought they were going to be keeping WI-341 (currently unsigned, to be signed with this study/project http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/projects/seregion/94stadiumint/index.htm ) between the stadium and National Ave.

[FightingIrish]

I thought they were going to be keeping WI-341 (currently unsigned, to be signed with this study/project http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/projects/seregion/94stadiumint/index.htm ) between the stadium and National Ave.

I don't think anyone really knows what's going on with STH 341. Some of the I-41 folks assume it will be STH 175, while others think 175 will merely replace US 41 to I-94. I'm guessing 175 will end at National Av. Makes sense.

[davenh]

It's been a while since I looked at the Zoo Interchange plans...I thought they were removing all left side exits? Or is that just a temporary sign?

I think the example sign here that shows the left exit will be on the new ramps. If you look at the plans, the exit will first go off to the right from I-94, then split in the respective north and south directions. Plus, that sign to go north on I-41/US-45 has too many lane arrows. The current ramp is only one lane and certainly won't change until the interchange is done.

[SEWIGuy]

I thought they were going to be keeping WI-341 (currently unsigned, to be signed with this study/project http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/projects/seregion/94stadiumint/index.htm ) between the stadium and National Ave.

When you look at all of the maps on their public involvement page, they all show the current numbering in place.  Even US-41.

http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/projects/seregion/94stadiumint/public.htm

[Big John]

I thought they were going to be keeping WI-341 (currently unsigned, to be signed with this study/project http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/projects/seregion/94stadiumint/index.htm ) between the stadium and National Ave.

When you look at all of the maps on their public involvement page, they all show the current numbering in place.  Even US-41.

http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/projects/seregion/94stadiumint/public.htm

As I discussed before, those plans are for public informational presentations only.  Current routes are shown to give the public a reference to where things are, while giving proposed route numbers may be too confusing to non-road geeks.

[colinstu]

I thought they were going to be keeping WI-341 (currently unsigned, to be signed with this study/project http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/projects/seregion/94stadiumint/index.htm ) between the stadium and National Ave.

When you look at all of the maps on their public involvement page, they all show the current numbering in place.  Even US-41.

http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/projects/seregion/94stadiumint/public.htm

huh? they show WI-341 being signed (which it currently isn't) http://www.dot.wisconsin.gov/projects/seregion/94stadiumint/docs/westlegdoubledeck.pdf

Of course that doesn't mean it necessarily would be when the project happens.

[GeekJedi]

And in this plan they sign 41 North rather than 175.  I wouldn't put too much credence into any signing on that PDF.

[Icewolf]

As a potential answer to the 341 vs 175 question for Miller Park Way (also one for the "I-41 project-get a picture before they cover it up" file), I drove southbound through the Stadium Interchange and saw a WI-341/END WI-175 sign just past the ramp to WB I-94.  I didn't get a picture though.

[on_wisconsin]

WisDOT published it's latest batch of plans for this month, last Friday (Aug 1). Only seven plan sets are in this month's upload and nothing significant to note.

August (September) 2014 plans: ftp://ftp.dot.wi.gov/dtsd/hcci/plansandproposals/2014/09September_09/

FYI: The state took down all plans from 2012.

[on_wisconsin]

September is this year's annual "no let" month, new plan sets should be posted during the first week of October.

[on_wisconsin]

October (November) 2014 letting: ftp://ftp.dot.wi.gov/dtsd/hcci/plansandproposals/2014/11November_11/

Nothing spectacular, but there is a healthy number of signing sheets spread amongst the plan sets.