NY 17/"I-86"

[webny99]

similar to this: https://maps.app.goo.gl/yW5jUMDGeq36cyoi6

I really like this style of LGS, and I wish these would become standard at all freeway interchanges statewide, even (and perhaps especially) in urban and suburban areas.

[storm2k]

similar to this: https://maps.app.goo.gl/yW5jUMDGeq36cyoi6

I really like this style of LGS, and I wish these would become standard at all freeway interchanges statewide, even (and perhaps especially) in urban and suburban areas.

The MUTCD allows for either style, and most DOTs choose the cheaper options for obvious reasons.

[dzheng35]

It appears that the signage in the Waverly area finally got updated. They even took dowwn the 17 sheilds in that area too when they were updated literally leaving some 86 signs with an empty space next to it like this here: https://www.google.com/maps/@41.9998012,-76.5487244,3a,75y,34.81h,86.69t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1smhPopCc4M9tUnxd0XhdU4w!2e0!6shttps:%2F%2Fstreetviewpixels-pa.googleapis.com%2Fv1%2Fthumbnail%3Fcb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile%26w%3D900%26h%3D600%26pitch%3D3.3110862409720454%26panoid%3DmhPopCc4M9tUnxd0XhdU4w%26yaw%3D34.814999761380804!7i16384!8i8192?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI1MDgzMC4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D

[dzheng35]

BTW, does anyone know more about the missing exit numbers along the corridor? Why is there no exit 5, 88, 91, or 95? I know exits 22 and 55 were unbuilt, and exit 117 was removed at one point.

[The Ghostbuster]

I understand (though disagree) why the first exit in New York is numbered Exit 4, since 1, 2, and 3 were in Pennsylvania. Missing sequential exit numbers is exactly why the conversions to mileage-based exits should happen to remaining sequential exit numbers in New York and beyond.

[vdeane]

3: ???
5: ???
22: reserved for the US 219 freeway
55: reserved for Clemens Center Parkway
73: I-81 exit 12
74: I-81 exits 11 and 9
85: used for Hale Eddy at-grade
86: used for Silver Lake Road (Hale Eddy at-grade)
88: ??? (possibly Tyler Switch)
91: reserved for Peakville
95: ??? (possibly Hazel)
117: removed interchange (Tarbell Road)
118A: removed interchange (NY 17M)

I understand (though disagree) why the first exit in New York is numbered Exit 4, since 1, 2, and 3 were in Pennsylvania. Missing sequential exit numbers is exactly why the conversions to mileage-based exits should happen to remaining sequential exit numbers in New York and beyond.

Exit 3 is former exit 2, so that was originally a missing number as well.  No idea what it was for, unless NY wanted to prepare for PA going mile-based by NY remaining sequential (which is ultimately what happened).

[Roadgeek Adam]

117 is Tarbell Road (wb only; and will be on the meet I'm hosting next year).

I wrote down what 88 and 95 were for and I gotta find it again. (I believe I had 88 for Tyler Switch, because they built a section of the Quickway between TS and East Branch and 95 for Hazel.)

91: Peakville (eliminated in planning)
original planned 92: Chiloway (eliminated in planning)

[vdeane]

117 is Tarbell Road (wb only; and will be on the meet I'm hosting next year).

Oh yeah, I remember that now.  I had located it when I did the 1999 April Fool's Day prank for my site, but alas, I can't find the files from that.  I've edited it and the others into my post; maybe I'll have to add them to the I-86/NY 17 article, or the description at the top of the exit list.

I'll have to keep an eye out for that roadmeet.  I expect to be somewhat tight with time off next year (at least relative to this year and the past couple), so something in daytrip range will be welcome.

[dzheng35]

I've mentioned before, though, how some of the missing exit numbers that were cancelled could be filled through some simple renumbering to eliminate any duplicate exit numbers, like 55 to eliminate the two 59s, 88 to eliminate the two 87s, and 95 to eliminate the two 100s.

[vdeane]

55 to eliminate the two 59s

IIRC someone mentioned that such actually was looked at.  I'm not sure why they ultimately didn't.  At least they still used 57 to make sure we didn't get two 58s.

88 to eliminate the two 87s

Now that is the weird one.  What's the point of 87A if there's no 88?

[The Ghostbuster]

Exits 59 and 59A should be Exits 201 and 203. Exits 87 and 87A should be Exits 285 and 287. Exits 100A and 100 should be Exits 326A and 326B. Exits 4-131 should be numbered Exits 1-380. That would solve all problems.

[vdeane]

Exits 59 and 59A should be Exits 201 and 203. Exits 87 and 87A should be Exits 285 and 287. Exits 100A and 100 should be Exits 326A and 326B. Exits 4-131 should be numbered Exits 1-380. That would solve all problems.

Using posted mile markers:
4: 1
59: 200
59A: 202
87: 285
87A: 287
100A: 325
100: 326
131: 380B EB, 380 WB (381 if fudged)

Using actual mile markers (ignoring the step back at the Steuben/Chemung line and the step forward at the Sullivan/Orange line):
4: 1
59: 200
59A: 203
87: 285
87A: 288
100A: 326
100: 327
131: 380B EB, 380 WB (381 if fudged)

[Roadgeek Adam]

87A was an after construction request by local business owners wanting an exit east of Hancock.