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Started by YankeesFan, November 18, 2011, 10:28:30 PM

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cpzilliacus

Quote from: qguy on May 25, 2012, 10:21:53 AM
About a half hour after my last post, it occurred to me: "I don't think we're in Jersey anymore, Toto."

Very good!

Thank you for your very informative discussion of the I-95 <--->  Pennsylvania Turnpike East-West Mainline connection.
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qguy

Somewhere on this forum I think is an old thread kicking around specifically on the PA Turnpike/I-95 connection project. If anyone has any questions on the project that as a former CAC member I can possibly add my perspective to, go ahead and bump it and ask away. Can't guarantee I'll have any particular answer you're looking for, but perhaps I may.

Alps

Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 23, 2012, 04:14:50 PM
Quoteupon application of the State of New Jersey
may cause rashes. seek doctor's attention if the State of New Jersey does not rinse off cleanly.

Hot Rod Hootenanny

Quote from: Steve on May 25, 2012, 06:47:40 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 23, 2012, 04:14:50 PM
Quoteupon application of the State of New Jersey
may cause rashes. seek doctor's attention if the State of New Jersey does not rinse off cleanly.
I'll have to remember this if you come out to the Dayton meet in a couple of weeks.
Please, don't sue Alex & Andy over what I wrote above

qguy

Quote from: Steve on May 25, 2012, 06:47:40 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 23, 2012, 04:14:50 PM
Quoteupon application of the State of New Jersey
may cause rashes. seek doctor's attention if the State of New Jersey does not rinse off cleanly.

Reminds me of something from my college days. (Boy wasn't that a lifetime ago!)

At that time, I was from the Scranton area. My roomate, who was from north Jersey, once remarked that he always thought the name "Scranton" sounded like a skin ailment. (It sorta does, doesn't it?) He readily volunteered that it probably got that way from its close contact with his part of the state.

Alps

Quote from: qguy on May 26, 2012, 10:45:14 AM
Quote from: Steve on May 25, 2012, 06:47:40 PM
Quote from: agentsteel53 on May 23, 2012, 04:14:50 PM
Quoteupon application of the State of New Jersey
may cause rashes. seek doctor's attention if the State of New Jersey does not rinse off cleanly.

Reminds me of something from my college days. (Boy wasn't that a lifetime ago!)

At that time, I was from the Scranton area. My roomate, who was from north Jersey, once remarked that he always thought the name "Scranton" sounded like a skin ailment. (It sorta does, doesn't it?) He readily volunteered that it probably got that way from its close contact with his part of the state.
Scranton, I just call Scantron. Now what happens if you get Scranton on your Scotrun?

qguy

Quote from: Steve on May 26, 2012, 12:31:39 PMScranton, I just call Scantron. Now what happens if you get Scranton on your Scotrun?

My kids homeschool via a cyber charter school; many of their tests use an online system through Scantron. Every time I look at that word, I do a double-take.

That last one is always good for a mental chuckle when driving up or down I-81. The ol' brain's just wired that way.

YankeesFan

has there been any news on the NJ 55 extension? is it pretty much a pipe dream?

Alps

Quote from: YankeesFan on May 26, 2012, 01:08:02 PM
has there been any news on the NJ 55 extension? is it pretty much a pipe dream?
Absolutely, and unfortunately. Nothing's getting built in this state if there's a wetlands area.

Beltway

Quote from: qguy on May 26, 2012, 10:45:14 AM
At that time, I was from the Scranton area. My roomate, who was from north Jersey, once remarked that he always thought the name "Scranton" sounded like a skin ailment. (It sorta does, doesn't it?) He readily volunteered that it probably got that way from its close contact with his part of the state.

It's the surname of the founders.

"In 1840, brothers Selden T. and George W. Scranton founded what would become the Lackawanna Steel Company."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scranton,_Pennsylvania
http://www.roadstothefuture.com
http://www.capital-beltway.com

Baloney is a reserved word on the Internet
    (Robert  Coté, 2002)

qguy

Quote from: Beltway on May 26, 2012, 08:17:40 PMIt's the surname of the founders.

Really?!? I never knew that.  :rolleyes:

Beltway

Quote from: qguy on May 27, 2012, 12:23:51 AM
Quote from: Beltway on May 26, 2012, 08:17:40 PMIt's the surname of the founders.

Really?!? I never knew that.  :rolleyes:

Very common, that these "odd sounding" municipality names are merely the surname of some person.
http://www.roadstothefuture.com
http://www.capital-beltway.com

Baloney is a reserved word on the Internet
    (Robert  Coté, 2002)

english si

Quote from: Beltway on May 27, 2012, 08:21:09 AMVery common, that these "odd sounding" municipality names are merely the surname of some person.
Given surnames back in the day were based on jobs, what on earth did the guy who named here do for a job. ;)

Beltway

Quote from: english si on May 27, 2012, 08:41:31 AM
Quote from: Beltway on May 27, 2012, 08:21:09 AMVery common, that these "odd sounding" municipality names are merely the surname of some person.
Given surnames back in the day were based on jobs, what on earth did the guy who named here do for a job. ;)

It's not obvious in English, but if his native tongue was another language, it may have been job-related in that language.
http://www.roadstothefuture.com
http://www.capital-beltway.com

Baloney is a reserved word on the Internet
    (Robert  Coté, 2002)

qguy

Quote from: Beltway on May 27, 2012, 08:21:09 AM
Quote from: qguy on May 27, 2012, 12:23:51 AM
Quote from: Beltway on May 26, 2012, 08:17:40 PMIt's the surname of the founders.

Really?!? I never knew that.  :rolleyes:

Very common, that these "odd sounding" municipality names are merely the surname of some person.

Quick, call the networks!

I meant that in the Scranton area, nearly everyone knows that the place was named after the founder(s). Although most don't remember the first names. You may as well have said that you found on Wikipedia that the sky was blue and grass was green.  :biggrin:

Well OK, smarty-pants, before I get admonished by an admin for roaming too far from the thread topic, who was Wilkes-Barre named after? (And no googling.)  :poke:

Beltway

Quote from: qguy on May 27, 2012, 05:31:55 PM
Quote from: Beltway on May 27, 2012, 08:21:09 AM
Quote from: qguy on May 27, 2012, 12:23:51 AM
Quote from: Beltway on May 26, 2012, 08:17:40 PMIt's the surname of the founders.

Really?!? I never knew that.  :rolleyes:

Very common, that these "odd sounding" municipality names are merely the surname of some person.

Quick, call the networks!

I meant that in the Scranton area, nearly everyone knows that the place was named after the founder(s). Although most don't remember the first names. You may as well have said that you found on Wikipedia that the sky was blue and grass was green.  :biggrin:

Well OK, smarty-pants, before I get admonished by an admin for roaming too far from the thread topic, who was Wilkes-Barre named after? (And no googling.)  :poke:

I only entered the discussion (so called) because of the junior-high like making fun of names.
http://www.roadstothefuture.com
http://www.capital-beltway.com

Baloney is a reserved word on the Internet
    (Robert  Coté, 2002)

NE2

haha guys there's a Fucking Austria
pre-1945 Florida route log

I accept and respect your identity as long as it's not dumb shit like "identifying as a vaccinated attack helicopter".

Beltway

<<< Pooing: Not perfect, but miles cooler than the alternative. >>>

What is the alternative ... puking ?

http://www.roadstothefuture.com
http://www.capital-beltway.com

Baloney is a reserved word on the Internet
    (Robert  Coté, 2002)

HighwayMaster

Quote from: Beltway on May 27, 2012, 09:44:55 PM
<<< Pooing: Not perfect, but miles cooler than the alternative. >>>

What is the alternative ... puking ?
Probably. :sombrero:
Life is too short not to have Tim Hortons donuts.

qguy

Quote from: Beltway on May 27, 2012, 08:36:45 PM
Quote from: qguy on May 27, 2012, 05:31:55 PM
Quote from: Beltway on May 27, 2012, 08:21:09 AM
Quote from: qguy on May 27, 2012, 12:23:51 AM
Quote from: Beltway on May 26, 2012, 08:17:40 PMIt's the surname of the founders.

Really?!? I never knew that.  :rolleyes:

Very common, that these "odd sounding" municipality names are merely the surname of some person.

Quick, call the networks!

I meant that in the Scranton area, nearly everyone knows that the place was named after the founder(s). Although most don't remember the first names. You may as well have said that you found on Wikipedia that the sky was blue and grass was green.  :biggrin:

Well OK, smarty-pants, before I get admonished by an admin for roaming too far from the thread topic, who was Wilkes-Barre named after? (And no googling.)  :poke:

I only entered the discussion (so called) because of the junior-high like making fun of names.

That's what you say now.

Beltway

Quote from: qguy on May 28, 2012, 08:45:38 PM
Quote from: Beltway on May 27, 2012, 08:36:45 PM
Quote from: qguy on May 27, 2012, 05:31:55 PM
Quote from: Beltway on May 27, 2012, 08:21:09 AM
Quote from: qguy on May 27, 2012, 12:23:51 AM
Quote from: Beltway on May 26, 2012, 08:17:40 PMIt's the surname of the founders.

Really?!? I never knew that.  :rolleyes:

Very common, that these "odd sounding" municipality names are merely the surname of some person.

Quick, call the networks!

I meant that in the Scranton area, nearly everyone knows that the place was named after the founder(s). Although most don't remember the first names. You may as well have said that you found on Wikipedia that the sky was blue and grass was green.  :biggrin:

Well OK, smarty-pants, before I get admonished by an admin for roaming too far from the thread topic, who was Wilkes-Barre named after? (And no googling.)  :poke:

I only entered the discussion (so called) because of the junior-high like making fun of names.

That's what you say now.

That was my reason THEN.
http://www.roadstothefuture.com
http://www.capital-beltway.com

Baloney is a reserved word on the Internet
    (Robert  Coté, 2002)

qguy

Quote from: Beltway on May 28, 2012, 08:50:09 PM
Quote from: qguy on May 28, 2012, 08:45:38 PM
Quote from: Beltway on May 27, 2012, 08:36:45 PM
Quote from: qguy on May 27, 2012, 05:31:55 PM
Quote from: Beltway on May 27, 2012, 08:21:09 AM
Quote from: qguy on May 27, 2012, 12:23:51 AM
Quote from: Beltway on May 26, 2012, 08:17:40 PMIt's the surname of the founders.

Really?!? I never knew that.  :rolleyes:

Very common, that these "odd sounding" municipality names are merely the surname of some person.

Quick, call the networks!

I meant that in the Scranton area, nearly everyone knows that the place was named after the founder(s). Although most don't remember the first names. You may as well have said that you found on Wikipedia that the sky was blue and grass was green.  :biggrin:

Well OK, smarty-pants, before I get admonished by an admin for roaming too far from the thread topic, who was Wilkes-Barre named after? (And no googling.)  :poke:

I only entered the discussion (so called) because of the junior-high like making fun of names.

That's what you say now.

That was my reason THEN.

Just kidding.

It's hard to do good deadpan humor in print. Quite a few of my replies have been deadpan. I should probably just stick to being a straight man. But I can't, I can't...

Alps

Quote from: qguy on May 29, 2012, 07:09:01 AM
I should probably just stick to being a straight man. But I can't, I can't...

This forum is a welcoming and open environment for people of all sexualities and genders.

Compulov

Quote from: qguy on May 23, 2012, 04:12:11 PM
Note quite true. Two bridges have been lengthened and a third is under construction. The PTC claims the mainline toll plaza is still planned to go to construction this year. (We'll see. My attitude with the Turnpike is that they never start anything when they say they will. One of the bridges that is currently being lengthened, for example, was supposed to be started last year but was pushed back to this year.) These are necessary before the actual interchange ramps can be constructed. But you're correct about the actual interchange ramps–none have been begun yet.
It's funny... I read this and thought of my girlfriend. We've had the conversation in the past when she compares the pace at which the 95 interchange/widening/everything else going on east of Route 1 is occurring to how fast it seems the NJTA is getting the 6-9 widening done (and I do find it pretty amazing how much changes every time I ride the NJTP). I pointed out that the PTC has 3x the length of highway to maintain (on the mainline), and currently has several major (and lots more minor) project underway simultaneously. I also speculated that the costs incurred by ACT 44 probably aren't helping matters any, either.

Anyhow... that's off-topic. Umm... NJ freeways. Any chance we could get a I-295/Turnpike Extension (Future I-95) interchange? Pretty please with sugar on top?

Compulov

Quote from: qguy on May 25, 2012, 08:52:24 AM
Another problem with the alignments along Exit 40 was the proximity of ramps from I-95 and ramps at PA 413. No matter what configuration was examined for a PA 413 interchange, geometry problems were too great to be overcome. Weaving and sight distance became unworkable. And the local access at  PA 413 needs to be maintained.

As someone who takes that exit every day, I appreciate keeping that local access, too! :)
My understanding was that one of the reasons for Exit 40 being as massive as it is, was that it was supposed to be the endpoint of I-895, which would have crossed the Delaware River and connected to I-295 at the other end. From what I read about it, it seemed the reason why that never happened was mostly political bs between Bristol and Burlington (and perhaps some NIMBYism as well). I'm guessing that back when I-895 was planned, there would have been less properties to take than there would be for some sort of extension today?



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