Illiana Corridor progress

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noelbotevera

#300
October 24, 2015, 04:09:27 PM  
Quote from: dzlsabe on October 24, 2015, 03:12:26 PM
Wow, somebody still has bad case of Illiana fever. Take some hypotenuse and swear some more. Even pound your head against a wall.

Some of Cook County is dying and has been for FIFTY? years...this would be a plan to turn that around as well as solve at least five major X-way Fups. Will County should be banished from District 1. Nobody but southern Will County and Indiana ever thought Illiana was even a fair idea.
I can tell Chicago is not on my bucket list on where to go. They wanted the ruining Illiana expressway.
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Stratuscaster

#301
October 24, 2015, 04:15:51 PM  
Illiana was a start of a great idea, for those that bothered to actually put some thought into it. Extending it west to I-55 and back to I-80 to serve the Joliet area intermodal would have made it better. Extending it east to come back up to I-80 would complete the bypass and make it even more viable.

This "hypotenuse plan" as presented so far does absolutely nothing for truck traffic using I-80 through the area and into Indiana. It does seem like it would create quite the eyesore, though - as well as consume more than a few homes and businesses.

dzlsabe

#302
October 24, 2015, 04:37:40 PM   Last Edit: November 26, 2015, 03:24:11 PM by dzlsabe
The hypotenuse would take some interstate traffic off of I-80 and put it on I-90. And avoid downtown Chicago, the Ryan, the Ike and Kennedy x-ways. It would go over existing railyards, ROWs and adjacent to 59th from Damen to Halsted, and yes, some houses and business would be affected. Mostly, positively. Weve got loads of intermodal here too, and improving logistics around here would certainly attract more industry, hence jobs and so on. Get the 20% of under-performing Chicago up to snuff and maybe godawful Houston dosent become #3 in ten years. :clap:

Heres the MAP  http://imgur.com/u9L0fFx Hypotenuse (in Fictional) the cure for Illiana fever
ILs mantra..the beatings will continue until the morale improves but Expect Delays is good too. Seems some are happy that Chicago/land remains miserable. Status quo is often asinine...Always feel free to use a dictionary as I tend to offend younger or more sensitive viewers. Thanx Pythagoras. :rofl:

Stratuscaster

#303
October 24, 2015, 04:46:42 PM  
How is that interstate traffic getting from I-80 to I-90 in the first place? I-80 already avoids downtown Chicago.

Brandon

#304
October 24, 2015, 05:39:01 PM  
Quote from: Stratuscaster on October 24, 2015, 04:15:51 PM
Illiana was a start of a great idea, for those that bothered to actually put some thought into it. Extending it west to I-55 and back to I-80 to serve the Joliet area intermodal would have made it better. Extending it east to come back up to I-80 would complete the bypass and make it even more viable.

This "hypotenuse plan" as presented so far does absolutely nothing for truck traffic using I-80 through the area and into Indiana. It does seem like it would create quite the eyesore, though - as well as consume more than a few homes and businesses.

Exactly.  The Illiana's primary goal was to serve truck traffic from those intermodal yards, the two biggest in the Six County Area, I might add.  These yards are even being expanded as I type.  I-80 cannot and will never be able to handle all of the traffic from these yards, much less the routine, and growing, cross-country traffic that goes through here daily.  Damn near every day there's an issue with I-80 backing up due to an accident due to being very overloaded with traffic.
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Brandon

#305
October 24, 2015, 05:40:21 PM  
Quote from: dzlsabe on October 24, 2015, 03:12:26 PM
Wow, somebody still has bad case of Illiana fever. Take some hypotenuse and swear some more. Even pound your head against a wall.

Some of Cook County is dying and has been for FIFTY? years...this would be a plan to turn that around as well as solve at least five major X-way Fups. Will County should be banished from District 1. Nobody but southern Will County and Indiana ever thought Illiana was even a fair idea.

Actually, we wish we were a part of District 3.  We might actually get paid attention to from time to time instead of being continually ignored by District 1.

Your plan is on par with FritzOwl.
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dzlsabe

#306
October 24, 2015, 06:24:39 PM   Last Edit: November 26, 2015, 03:36:52 PM by dzlsabe
Finish the missing link in I-90. Heres the MAP  http://imgur.com/u9L0fFx Hypotenuse (now in Fictional and IDOT files somewhere) the cure for Illiana fever  :banghead:
ILs mantra..the beatings will continue until the morale improves but Expect Delays is good too. Seems some are happy that Chicago/land remains miserable. Status quo is often asinine...Always feel free to use a dictionary as I tend to offend younger or more sensitive viewers. Thanx Pythagoras. :rofl:

pianocello

#307
October 24, 2015, 07:41:58 PM  
Um... Pretty sure there's no "missing link". https://www.google.com/maps/dir/41.6877653,-87.5217865/42.0608828,-88.0542571/@41.807807,-87.7109969,11.04z/data=!4m2!4m1!5i1

Seriously, any progress your hypotenuse idea could possibly make in bypassing downtown was done then the Tri-State was opened, and even more when it was widened.
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dzlsabe

#308
October 24, 2015, 11:52:37 PM  
Um..REALLY? Well just put this on the list of dumass ideas. Lets make Chicago great again...in our lifetime.
ILs mantra..the beatings will continue until the morale improves but Expect Delays is good too. Seems some are happy that Chicago/land remains miserable. Status quo is often asinine...Always feel free to use a dictionary as I tend to offend younger or more sensitive viewers. Thanx Pythagoras. :rofl:

dzlsabe

#309
October 25, 2015, 12:08:14 AM   Last Edit: November 26, 2015, 03:40:37 PM by dzlsabe
Piano..I just pulled up your spot and it told me to go up to 31st St, get on 55 and go to the Tristate and go north. A reverse Nway to go. Even at midnight. Brilliant. Im just trying to get the Sways resolved. Thanx for your help. Thats a great app.  Heres the MAP  http://imgur.com/u9L0fFx
ILs mantra..the beatings will continue until the morale improves but Expect Delays is good too. Seems some are happy that Chicago/land remains miserable. Status quo is often asinine...Always feel free to use a dictionary as I tend to offend younger or more sensitive viewers. Thanx Pythagoras. :rofl:

dzlsabe

#310
October 25, 2015, 12:20:31 AM  
See..thats the point. More flexibility. Its 12am Sunday morning. Its not going to be that way THIS morning. And sure as hell not Monday morning. ANY weather, construction, accidents or ALL three? Good luck!
ILs mantra..the beatings will continue until the morale improves but Expect Delays is good too. Seems some are happy that Chicago/land remains miserable. Status quo is often asinine...Always feel free to use a dictionary as I tend to offend younger or more sensitive viewers. Thanx Pythagoras. :rofl:

ET21

#311
October 25, 2015, 06:00:57 PM  
Quote from: dzlsabe on October 25, 2015, 12:20:31 AM
See..thats the point. More flexibility. Its 12am Sunday morning. Its not going to be that way THIS morning. And sure as hell not Monday morning. ANY weather, construction, accidents or ALL three? Good luck!

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

what?
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Clinched:
IL: I-88, I-180, I-190, I-290, I-294, I-355, IL-390
IN: I-80, I-94
SD: I-190
WI: I-90
MI: I-94, I-196
MN: I-90

US 41

#312
October 26, 2015, 11:36:43 AM  
Quote from: ET21 on October 25, 2015, 06:00:57 PM
Quote from: dzlsabe on October 25, 2015, 12:20:31 AM
See..thats the point. More flexibility. Its 12am Sunday morning. Its not going to be that way THIS morning. And sure as hell not Monday morning. ANY weather, construction, accidents or ALL three? Good luck!

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

what?

Dzlsabe is probably still either in middle school still or he failed all of his English classes. That's why nothing he has posted on here has made any sense.  :)
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Henry

#313
October 26, 2015, 12:53:53 PM  
Cancelled road projects get revived all the time. Take the ICC, for example. Years back, a MD governor (Glendening, IIRC) pulled a Rauner and cancelled the whole thing, but then the next governor (Ehrlich) reversed that decision and by the end of the O'Malley administration, the ICC was finished. So the Illiana and Fox Valley can still get built, just not until after Rauner leaves office.
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I-39

#314
October 26, 2015, 02:40:26 PM  
Quote from: Henry on October 26, 2015, 12:53:53 PM
Cancelled road projects get revived all the time. Take the ICC, for example. Years back, a MD governor (Glendening, IIRC) pulled a Rauner and cancelled the whole thing, but then the next governor (Ehrlich) reversed that decision and by the end of the O'Malley administration, the ICC was finished. So the Illiana and Fox Valley can still get built, just not until after Rauner leaves office.

The Fox Valley Freeway will never be revived. The area has filled in with development. If you meant the Prairie Parkway, that's unlikely to get revived either. I think the general consensus on that is people want IL-47 improved.

noelbotevera

#315
October 26, 2015, 04:47:23 PM  
Quote from: US 41 on October 26, 2015, 11:36:43 AM
Quote from: ET21 on October 25, 2015, 06:00:57 PM
Quote from: dzlsabe on October 25, 2015, 12:20:31 AM
See..thats the point. More flexibility. Its 12am Sunday morning. Its not going to be that way THIS morning. And sure as hell not Monday morning. ANY weather, construction, accidents or ALL three? Good luck!

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

what?

Dzlsabe is probably still either in middle school still or he failed all of his English classes. That's why nothing he has posted on here has made any sense.  :)
*ahem*  :bigass: I'm in 6th grade...
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US 41

#316
October 26, 2015, 05:27:44 PM  
Quote from: noelbotevera on October 26, 2015, 04:47:23 PM
Quote from: US 41 on October 26, 2015, 11:36:43 AM
Quote from: ET21 on October 25, 2015, 06:00:57 PM
Quote from: dzlsabe on October 25, 2015, 12:20:31 AM
See..thats the point. More flexibility. Its 12am Sunday morning. Its not going to be that way THIS morning. And sure as hell not Monday morning. ANY weather, construction, accidents or ALL three? Good luck!

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

what?

Dzlsabe is probably still either in middle school still or he failed all of his English classes. That's why nothing he has posted on here has made any sense.  :)
*ahem*  :bigass: I'm in 6th grade...

So you're saying that I'm right then.
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noelbotevera

#317
October 26, 2015, 07:42:38 PM  
Quote from: US 41 on October 26, 2015, 05:27:44 PM
Quote from: noelbotevera on October 26, 2015, 04:47:23 PM
Quote from: US 41 on October 26, 2015, 11:36:43 AM
Quote from: ET21 on October 25, 2015, 06:00:57 PM
Quote from: dzlsabe on October 25, 2015, 12:20:31 AM
See..thats the point. More flexibility. Its 12am Sunday morning. Its not going to be that way THIS morning. And sure as hell not Monday morning. ANY weather, construction, accidents or ALL three? Good luck!

:confused: :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

what?

Dzlsabe is probably still either in middle school still or he failed all of his English classes. That's why nothing he has posted on here has made any sense.  :)
*ahem*  :bigass: I'm in 6th grade...

So you're saying that I'm right then.
Yup.
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pianocello

#318
October 27, 2015, 09:50:42 PM  
Quote from: dzlsabe on October 25, 2015, 12:08:14 AM
Piano..I just pulled up your spot and it told me to go up to 31st St, get on 55 and go to the Tristate and go north. An Nway to go. Brilliant. Im just trying to get the Sways resolved. Thanx for your help. Thats a great app.

Welp, I just learned a valuable lesson: Never try to make a point using Google Maps directions that are based on current traffic. The point I was trying to make was... well, never mind. Arguing this is a waste of time.
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Brandon

#319
October 28, 2015, 05:03:54 AM  
Quote from: pianocello on October 27, 2015, 09:50:42 PM
Quote from: dzlsabe on October 25, 2015, 12:08:14 AM
Piano..I just pulled up your spot and it told me to go up to 31st St, get on 55 and go to the Tristate and go north. An Nway to go. Brilliant. Im just trying to get the Sways resolved. Thanx for your help. Thats a great app.

Welp, I just learned a valuable lesson: Never try to make a point using Google Maps directions that are based on current traffic. The point I was trying to make was... well, never mind. Arguing this is a waste of time.

You're wrestling a pig in the mud with this one.  Sooner or later you realize he likes it.
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GeekJedi

#320
October 28, 2015, 11:48:31 AM  
Quote from: dzlsabe on October 27, 2015, 10:10:04 PM
Why was the IKE and its extension called I-90 until 1978?????

Can you stick to one thread per question, please?
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dzlsabe

#321
October 28, 2015, 12:32:03 PM   Last Edit: November 26, 2015, 03:43:04 PM by dzlsabe
Didnt mean to overload you or Mr. Brake. Its a pretty easy question. See Ike before 1978.
ILs mantra..the beatings will continue until the morale improves but Expect Delays is good too. Seems some are happy that Chicago/land remains miserable. Status quo is often asinine...Always feel free to use a dictionary as I tend to offend younger or more sensitive viewers. Thanx Pythagoras. :rofl:

US71

#322
October 28, 2015, 09:01:18 PM  
Quote from: pianocello on October 27, 2015, 09:50:42 PM

Welp, I just learned a valuable lesson: Never try to make a point using Google Maps directions that are based on current traffic. The point I was trying to make was... well, never mind. Arguing this is a waste of time.

I always add extra time to whatever Google says to allow for slow traffic &/or rest stops

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ET21

#323
October 28, 2015, 09:03:42 PM  
Quote from: dzlsabe on October 28, 2015, 12:32:03 PM
Didnt mean to overload you or Mr. Brake. Its a pretty easy question.

Except you posted the same one in 2 other topics
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Clinched:
IL: I-88, I-180, I-190, I-290, I-294, I-355, IL-390
IN: I-80, I-94
SD: I-190
WI: I-90
MI: I-94, I-196
MN: I-90

dzlsabe

#324
October 29, 2015, 12:19:59 AM   Last Edit: November 26, 2015, 03:45:03 PM by dzlsabe
Heres the MAP  http://imgur.com/u9L0fFx      Hypotenuse (in Fictional) the cure for Illiana fever.
ILs mantra..the beatings will continue until the morale improves but Expect Delays is good too. Seems some are happy that Chicago/land remains miserable. Status quo is often asinine...Always feel free to use a dictionary as I tend to offend younger or more sensitive viewers. Thanx Pythagoras. :rofl:
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