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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #2875 on: April 02, 2020, 08:07:12 PM »

WIDOT doesn't do a lot of route changes, and when they do I don't think people get all that confused.  Most people navigate by GPS these days and that helps people figure those things out.
If your outside of Waukesha County I would agree but here we have one section of road that has 3 different designations in less than 2 decades. That says there has been too many changes around here.

What stretch is that?

And you have to know those are exceptions.  And considering Waukesha County's growth, a lot of those changes do make sense.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #2876 on: April 03, 2020, 11:50:04 AM »

WIDOT doesn't do a lot of route changes, and when they do I don't think people get all that confused.  Most people navigate by GPS these days and that helps people figure those things out.
If your outside of Waukesha County I would agree but here we have one section of road that has 3 different designations in less than 2 decades. That says there has been too many changes around here.

What stretch is that?

And you have to know those are exceptions.  And considering Waukesha County's growth, a lot of those changes do make sense.

I think he's talking about the Les Paul Pkwy: 18/59/164
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #2877 on: April 03, 2020, 12:11:21 PM »

OK, but that's actually my point.  99% of the people that use the Les Paul Parkway likely don't know or care about the highway designations.  Was there a bunch of confusion when WI-164 and US-18 were relcated onto the Parkway?  Very doubtful. 

People need to remember, that in urban areas, the vast majority of traffic is local.  It's people driving to work, to the store, etc.  Highway designations are largely meaningless.  We live about a mile off of Main Street in Green Bay.  My wife knows it as "Main Street."  She likely has no clue that it carries US-141 and WI-29, and even if she did, she's not navigating by those numbers.  They could take both highways off the local streets and put them on the interstates from one side of town to the other, and it wouldn't impact her one bit.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #2878 on: April 06, 2020, 01:20:26 AM »

OK, but that's actually my point.  99% of the people that use the Les Paul Parkway likely don't know or care about the highway designations.  Was there a bunch of confusion when WI-164 and US-18 were relcated onto the Parkway?  Very doubtful. 

People need to remember, that in urban areas, the vast majority of traffic is local.  It's people driving to work, to the store, etc.  Highway designations are largely meaningless.  We live about a mile off of Main Street in Green Bay.  My wife knows it as "Main Street."  She likely has no clue that it carries US-141 and WI-29, and even if she did, she's not navigating by those numbers.  They could take both highways off the local streets and put them on the interstates from one side of town to the other, and it wouldn't impact her one bit.

I'll second that, at least as far as Green Bay locals.  I grew up in Allouez and still have family all over the area. You could take every highway number and route them all onto I-41/I-43/WI 172 around the city, and the locals would never notice the difference. That you have to traverse roundabout hell to go eastbound on WI-29 once you leave the freeway (most traffic goes N-S on I-41) shows it's not WI 29 most people care about while getting to Shawano Avenue. We only referenced highway numbers when heading out of town.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #2879 on: April 07, 2020, 02:01:56 PM »

OK, but that's actually my point.  99% of the people that use the Les Paul Parkway likely don't know or care about the highway designations.  Was there a bunch of confusion when WI-164 and US-18 were relcated onto the Parkway?  Very doubtful. 

People need to remember, that in urban areas, the vast majority of traffic is local.  It's people driving to work, to the store, etc.  Highway designations are largely meaningless.  We live about a mile off of Main Street in Green Bay.  My wife knows it as "Main Street."  She likely has no clue that it carries US-141 and WI-29, and even if she did, she's not navigating by those numbers.  They could take both highways off the local streets and put them on the interstates from one side of town to the other, and it wouldn't impact her one bit.

I'll second that, at least as far as Green Bay locals.  I grew up in Allouez and still have family all over the area. You could take every highway number and route them all onto I-41/I-43/WI 172 around the city, and the locals would never notice the difference. That you have to traverse roundabout hell to go eastbound on WI-29 once you leave the freeway (most traffic goes N-S on I-41) shows it's not WI 29 most people care about while getting to Shawano Avenue. We only referenced highway numbers when heading out of town.

I just like hearing my GPS trying to pronounce Shawano and Oneida while in green bay lol.....taking on the roundabouts, not so much
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #2880 on: April 14, 2020, 05:15:32 PM »

I just like hearing my GPS trying to pronounce Shawano and Oneida while in green bay lol.....taking on the roundabouts, not so much

LOL. I still remember laughing as a kid watching the Hollywood actors at the CP telethon every year mispronouncing Shawano (my mom's home town), Weyauwega, Winneconne, and all the other local Native tribal names.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #2881 on: April 14, 2020, 05:26:28 PM »

I just like hearing my GPS trying to pronounce Shawano and Oneida while in green bay lol.....taking on the roundabouts, not so much

LOL. I still remember laughing as a kid watching the Hollywood actors at the CP telethon every year mispronouncing Shawano (my mom's home town), Weyauwega, Winneconne, and all the other local Native tribal names.


There was a Law and Order episode where the "defendent" was from Fond du Lac, but he pronounced it like it was French.  ie, the way no one who is actually from Wisconsin would ever pronounce it.

Then there's this.

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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #2882 on: April 14, 2020, 09:30:20 PM »

WIDOT doesn't do a lot of route changes, and when they do I don't think people get all that confused.  Most people navigate by GPS these days and that helps people figure those things out.
If your outside of Waukesha County I would agree but here we have one section of road that has 3 different designations in less than 2 decades. That says there has been too many changes around here.

What stretch is that?

And you have to know those are exceptions.  And considering Waukesha County's growth, a lot of those changes do make sense.
The part of hwy F between Capitol Dr. and Main st in Sussex. It was 164 until 1999 then 74 until 2016 also the part of 164 south of Waukesha was Hwy F crazy.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #2883 on: April 16, 2020, 02:43:55 PM »

Heck, the network sports guys seldom get Green Bay right, too.  It is 'green bay' (equal soft emphasis on both words), *not* 'GREEN bay'.

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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #2884 on: April 16, 2020, 03:10:24 PM »

Heck, the network sports guys seldom get Green Bay right, too.  It is 'green bay' (equal soft emphasis on both words), *not* 'GREEN bay'.

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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #2885 on: April 16, 2020, 04:19:30 PM »

Could you guys possibly link to a Youtube example of someone saying it right or wrong?
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #2886 on: April 16, 2020, 04:56:09 PM »

Heck, the network sports guys seldom get Green Bay right, too.  It is 'green bay' (equal soft emphasis on both words), *not* 'GREEN bay'.

 :-P

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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #2887 on: April 16, 2020, 05:28:40 PM »

Could you guys possibly link to a Youtube example of someone saying it right or wrong?


At about the :20 mark, he says it correctly here.

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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #2888 on: April 16, 2020, 07:29:26 PM »

I see.

So it's either "GREEN BAY" or "green bay" or something in between? Just as long as neither word has more emphasis than the other?
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #2889 on: April 16, 2020, 09:57:02 PM »

I see.

So it's either "GREEN BAY" or "green bay" or something in between? Just as long as neither word has more emphasis than the other?

The stress is that of a two-syllable word, as opposed to two one-syllable words. That is, it's like "high school," an institution of secondary education, and not as "high school," a school where all the students are high.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #2890 on: April 16, 2020, 10:32:38 PM »

And the state name is pronounced Wis-con-sin,, not Wes-con=sin.  I hear the latter too often.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #2891 on: April 17, 2020, 11:16:35 AM »

I see.

So it's either "GREEN BAY" or "green bay" or something in between? Just as long as neither word has more emphasis than the other?

Pretty much so.

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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #2892 on: April 17, 2020, 11:30:28 AM »

And the state name is pronounced Wis-con-sin,, not Wes-con=sin.  I hear the latter too often.


I usually pronouce it "HEA-ven"
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #2893 on: April 19, 2020, 11:22:20 AM »

It's actually pronounced wezGAHNsin, with a super nasal "AH"

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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #2894 on: April 20, 2020, 02:27:57 PM »

And the state name is pronounced Wis-con-sin,, not Wes-con=sin.  I hear the latter too often.

Digger Phelps(former ESPN college basketball analyst) objects to you pronunciation of our states name. :pan: :wave: :-D :clap:
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« Reply #2895 on: April 27, 2020, 12:45:14 AM »

I didn't get a chance to take pictures, but contractors are making steady progress on the I-39/90 construction between Newville and Janesville right now. The northbound roadway is taking shape, and one can see how the area will eventually look once construction has completed. They appear to be on schedule to move traffic to the NBD side by this fall to rebuild the SBD side through Janesville.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #2896 on: May 31, 2020, 02:31:17 PM »

Any thoughts of any highways that should become interstates in the future in Wisconsin? Like for instance, Highway 29 from I-41 in Green Bay to I-94 in Elk Mound. If that happened, it should be I-98. How about Wis 441 becoming I-441? Or Highway 30 becoming a spur route of I-39, I-90, or I-94? If that happened, it could be a spur route of I-39 (say I-239, for instance). Although if that didn't happened, I would prefer Highway 30 expand to end at Highway 113 instead of US 151. Or US 151 from the I-39-I-90-I-94 exit in Madison to the I-41-US 41-US 45 exit in Fond Du Lac. If they did that, it could be I-98 or a spur route of I-39, I-41, I-90, or I-94. Or US 151 from the US 12-US 14 exit to at least Wisconsin-Iowa state line or into Iowa. That could be I-37. They shouldn't be big priorities right now and if never happens, I wouldn't be upset about it. Just thoughts on that. I was thinking about this because I remember talk about how making US 41 an interstate would be a big boon to businesses among cities along that highway because an interstate highway encourages more business than a US highway.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #2897 on: May 31, 2020, 02:33:13 PM »

Any thoughts of any highways that should become interstates in the future in Wisconsin? Like for instance, Highway 29 from I-41 in Green Bay to I-94 in Elk Mound. If that happened, it should be I-98. How about Wis 441 becoming I-441? Or Highway 30 becoming a spur route of I-39, I-90, or I-94? If that happened, it could be a spur route of I-39 (say I-239, for instance). Although if that didn't happened, I would prefer Highway 30 expand to end at Highway 113 instead of US 151. Or US 151 from the I-39-I-90-I-94 exit in Madison to the I-41-US 41-US 45 exit in Fond Du Lac. If they did that, it could be I-98 or a spur route of I-39, I-41, I-90, or I-94. Or US 151 from the US 12-US 14 exit to at least Wisconsin-Iowa state line or into Iowa. That could be I-37. They shouldn't be big priorities right now and if never happens, I wouldn't be upset about it. Just thoughts on that. I was thinking about this because I remember talk about how making US 41 an interstate would be a big boon to businesses among cities along that highway because an interstate highway encourages more business than a US highway.
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Re: Wisconsin notes
« Reply #2898 on: June 05, 2020, 09:28:15 PM »

My dumb ass thought it'd be 'fine' to roll US 51 SB by Tomahawk on Memorial Day while it's down to two lanes for the full depth pavement reconstruction of the SB carriageway.  It was not.  Won't make that weekend mistake again this summer until that is done.
Pretty sure the traffic jam overloaded the cell towers in the area because neither me nor my cousin could load data worth a damn to see how bad it was ahead.
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« Reply #2899 on: June 06, 2020, 11:25:27 PM »

My dumb ass thought it'd be 'fine' to roll US 51 SB by Tomahawk on Memorial Day while it's down to two lanes for the full depth pavement reconstruction of the SB carriageway.  It was not.  Won't make that weekend mistake again this summer until that is done.
Pretty sure the traffic jam overloaded the cell towers in the area because neither me nor my cousin could load data worth a damn to see how bad it was ahead.
The road being closed tricked the traffic status on the goog.
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