Signs With Design Errors

[paulthemapguy]

Well I guess all the toll-road authorities have their signing quirks. I see the Tollway also doesn't use exit numbers on the advance signs either. That's not MUTCD compliant. I seem to remember reading somewhere years ago that the Tollway didn't use exit numbers at all years ago. Is that true?

The Illinois Tollways didn't use ANY exit numbers until within the last couple years.  There were no exit tabs or exit numbers on gore signs at all just a few years ago in 2012 or 13.  Now, ISTHA has added exit numbers to everything.

Here's an interstate sign with a misshapen facing/stencil


IMG_1940 by Paul Drives, on Flickr

[freebrickproductions]

Here's an interstate sign with a misshapen facing/stencil


IMG_1940 by Paul Drives, on Flickr

Looks like someone placed a bubble-shield onto a standard 3di shield-blank.

[jbnv]

Cross-post from the Exit Number Challenge thread:

Exit 393 on I-25 in New Mexico:

DSC09614 by Eric Stuve, on Flickr

[chays]

Cross-post from the Exit Number Challenge thread:

Exit 393 on I-25 in New Mexico:

DSC09614 by Eric Stuve, on Flickr

WHat WEre THey THinking?

[amroad17]

Here's an interstate sign with a misshapen facing/stencil


IMG_1940 by Paul Drives, on Flickr

Looks like someone placed a bubble-shield onto a standard 3di shield-blank.

At least it's a state named shield.

[national highway 1]

Here's an interstate sign with a misshapen facing/stencil


IMG_1940 by Paul Drives, on Flickr

Looks like someone placed a bubble-shield onto a standard 3di shield-blank.

At least it's a state named shield.

But a feral state-named shield.

[SidS1045]

Cross-post from the Exit Number Challenge thread:

Exit 393 on I-25 in New Mexico:

DSC09614 by Eric Stuve, on Flickr

(shamelessly stealing from Chico Marx:)

That's the Jewish neighborhood.

[ekt8750]

Here's an interstate sign with a misshapen facing/stencil


IMG_1940 by Paul Drives, on Flickr

Looks like someone placed a bubble-shield onto a standard 3di shield-blank.

At least it's a state named shield.

But a feral state-named shield.

More mongrel than feral.

[national highway 1]

Looks like someone from Caltrans accidentally manufactured a CA 154 shield with the wrong font for the '154' digits, mistakenly using Helvetica instead of using the FHWA alphabets.
The rest of the signs - the text in the banner and the 'California' in the miners spade - use the correct font though.
Found on the Wikipedia page of San Marcos Pass:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Marcos_Pass

[6a]

Pretty sure this is privately done...at least I hope it is.

[jakeroot]

Pretty sure this is privately done...at least I hope it is.

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160829/3a820a93215cbf7057c2ef1e641830be.jpg

There's enough errors here that this is better off in the "Unique, Odd, or Interesting" thread. Certainly your sign is none of those things, but the thread does include the bad and ugly; your sign is a qualifier in those categories, without a doubt.

[7/8]

I took this photo on the 407 EB today. The RR 7 shield for Airport Rd is oddly done with a white number and border, whereas the standard in Ontario is black number on white shield. In fact, in the background of the photo, you can see a standard sign for the same exit (though I'll admit it's small and blurry):

[CNGL-Leudimin]

Pearson Airport .

Okay, I know it is named after this Pearson, not that Pearson.

[SignGeek101]

I took this photo on the 407 EB today. The RR 7 shield for Airport Rd is oddly done with a white number and border, whereas the standard in Ontario is black number on white shield. In fact, in the background of the photo, you can see a standard sign for the same exit (though I'll admit it's small and blurry):

The right arrow looks off too but it could be my imagination. There's a few weird things like that on the 407 (I recall seeing a MUTCD down arrow on one sign instead of a Ontario one for example). I'm too lazy to look for it right now.

Either way, that sign is older (an original probably).

[7/8]

I also noticed this sign on the 407 EB ramp to 400. Either the 400 numerals are too tall, or the shield is too small, but either way it looks weird!

Unfortunately I didn't get a picture, but here's the Google Maps location:
https://goo.gl/maps/b4pEdmyftxy

[MisterSG1]

I took this photo on the 407 EB today. The RR 7 shield for Airport Rd is oddly done with a white number and border, whereas the standard in Ontario is black number on white shield. In fact, in the background of the photo, you can see a standard sign for the same exit (though I'll admit it's small and blurry):

That RR-7 Airport Road sign has been there on the 407 as long as I can remember.

I also noticed this sign on the 407 EB ramp to 400. Either the 400 numerals are too tall, or the shield is too small, but either way it looks weird!

Unfortunately I didn't get a picture, but here's the Google Maps location:
https://goo.gl/maps/b4pEdmyftxy

Ever seen the hideous 401 shields on the Allen with GREEN numbers and a bizarro crown?....Painful to look at it when I use the subway from Wilson Station that's for sure.



And signgeek, where is this MUTCD arrow? I know 407 signage has been rather "interesting" to say the least and it has changed a lot (remember that 427 pre-advance sign on 407WB with the GIANT 1km) The only MUTCD arrows that come to mind in the GTA is at the Bayview/Bloor exit on the DVP, and the 401 exit on NB Allen (again with those hideous green numbers).

[7/8]

^ I've never been on Allen Rd (one day I'll have to do it just to say I have). I'm guessing you're referring to the sign on Allen Rd NB:

https://goo.gl/maps/XHKnH7PyUoQ2

I find these ones just as bad on Allen Rd SB:

https://maps.google.com/?q=43.734887,-79.450502&hl=en-CA&gl=ca

[MisterSG1]

^ I've never been on Allen Rd (one day I'll have to do it just to say I have). I'm guessing you're referring to the sign on Allen Rd NB:

https://goo.gl/maps/XHKnH7PyUoQ2

I find these ones just as bad on Allen Rd SB:

https://maps.google.com/?q=43.734965,-79.450484&hl=en-CA&gl=ca

I wouldn't EVER recommend going on Allen Road SB , unless you want to get stuck with no escape for a good 15 minutes nearly all times of the day. The intersection of Allen/Eglinton is nasty, and it is very time consuming to exit at Lawrence as well, I see it all the time when I ride the subway, and I take note of cars that pass me on the train at Wilson Station, and for sure, we always catch up to them before Eglinton.

Getting to Allen Road NB is very difficult on Eglinton.....with the LRT construction, it takes you 5 minutes at times just to move a couple of feet....yes, it really is that bad. I wouldn't recommend it.

[AsphaltPlanet]

I took this photo on the 407 EB today. The RR 7 shield for Airport Rd is oddly done with a white number and border, whereas the standard in Ontario is black number on white shield. In fact, in the background of the photo, you can see a standard sign for the same exit (though I'll admit it's small and blurry):

The first generation of signs that the 407 consortium put up themselves after becoming the leaseholders of the highway were pretty terrible.  They were manufactured by a company called Owl-Lite located in the extreme northwestern part of Etobicoke.  As far as I know they still manufacture new signs for the ETR, but have gotten progressively better at it as they have made more signs.

Some of the 407 ETR's atrocities:

The sign on the right is fine, but the pre-advanced for the 404 is quite something.


Again, the pre-advanced signage leaves something to be desired.


The sign on the left was made by Owl-Lite, while the sign on the right is original to the highway's construction.

Some other sign irregularities:
It's hard to tell from this photo, but the 68 flowerpot has a black outline, which is atypical:

http://goo.gl/4EAMfx

The box that surrounds the 'exit' or 'exit sortie' was sometimes a little bit different as well:


Compared to normal:

[SignGeek101]

And signgeek, where is this MUTCD arrow? I know 407 signage has been rather "interesting" to say the least and it has changed a lot (remember that 427 pre-advance sign on 407WB with the GIANT 1km) The only MUTCD arrows that come to mind in the GTA is at the Bayview/Bloor exit on the DVP, and the 401 exit on NB Allen (again with those hideous green numbers).

There's a few, all original signs if memory serves. Here's one placed on a 407 offramp with a badly spaced out 'TORONTO' text. I'm not a fan of Ontario's down arrow, though that is a very minor smudge I have. Ontario's signs overall are done pretty well.

https://goo.gl/maps/nXW6zYNEEUn

[AsphaltPlanet]

^ Yeah, that's definitely another ugly sign.  That was another one made by Owl-Lite, in their first generation of replacement signage.  For whatever reason, the initial signage that was erected when the 407 first opened omitted the control city of 'Toronto' from the 427 signage.  Toronto was however (and still is, for the rest of this year, until the signage is replaced) signed at the Highway 27 interchange.

[paulthemapguy]

20160903_114618 by Paul Drives, on Flickr

Heh

[hotdogPi]

20160903_114618 by Paul Drives, on Flickr

Heh

What's wrong with this one? Are there fewer than 4 lanes?

[roadfro]

What's wrong with this one? Are there fewer than 4 lanes?

In this type of lane assignment sign, only one arrow should be paired with an "ONLY" between the vertical lane lines. This one puts two through arrows in one lane segment.

[7/8]

I'll add another interesting sign on the 407, this time on the new extension. This Hwy 7 trailblazer is black-on-white, instead of white-on-green and is found before the exit for Hwy 12:



I also noticed that some of the exit signs at the gores say "Exit ##" instead of only having the number. Somehow, I managed to miss the chance to get a photo of one, even though there were at least 2 or 3.