Abandoned, then built under a different system

[Hot Rod Hootenanny]

Part of I-71 in northeast Ohio was built on the same alignment that would have been a second turnpike.

I guess so, from Delaware to the Turnpike


But Ohio already had a plan for an approximation of I-71 (and all the other interstates) soon after WW2

[bugo]

The portion of the Creek Turnpike from the US 75 interchange to the US 64/169/Memorial interchange was originally going to be built as the Creek Freeway, aka Oklahoma state highway 117.  For whatever reason, the road was built by the OTA instead of ODOT.  The Gilcrease Turnpike is a future example.

[3467]

Very strange it was the exaxct same thing in Illinois. The tollway had a slightly different map from Illinois interregional system in the same time period as Ohio.
Later many routes of the Illinois supplemental freeway were built as tollways like I-355 not IDOT. IDOT built some as expressways. A couple (I-39 and I-72 for instance) were built as planned

[Scott5114]

The portion of the Creek Turnpike from the US 75 interchange to the US 64/169/Memorial interchange was originally going to be built as the Creek Freeway, aka Oklahoma state highway 117.  For whatever reason, the road was built by the OTA instead of ODOT.  The Gilcrease Turnpike is a future example.

Okay, where did you get that from? I've done a lot of research into the Creek (been meaning to expand the shit out of the Wikipedia article...) and have never heard of 117 being involved in it at any point. As far as I know, the Creek was originally proposed as part of Tulsa's freeway system in the 50s and the plans sat on the shelf until the 80s, when OTA decided to build it. If you have a source for this...well...I'd certainly find it useful.

[Laura]

The alternative alignment for I-64 from Clifton Forge, VA to Richmond would have gone south to Roanoke and then east through Lynchburg onto Richmond (along the path that US 220, 460, 360 use today). I can't speak for the rest of the alignment, but the part between Bedford and Lynchburg was built as the new (current) alignment of US 460. The old alignment became US 221.

The current US 460 from Bedford to Lynchburg was put into the primary system in the mid-1940s as VA 297.

on my end!

Owings Mills Blvd (including the section that is MD 940) in Owings Mills, MD follows an original alignment of what would be the Baltimore Outer Beltway. This includes the section that is now MD 940, the existing county sections, and the new section currently under construction to bring the road to MD 26.

[KEVIN_224]

I believe the ramps of CT 9 west of West Hartford, CT were originally a 4-level stack interchange that would eventually become part of an extended CT 9 at Interstate 84.

The stack interchange in Farmington, CT is part of Exit 39A from I-84/US Route 6. Most likely, a northwest beltway around Hartford would've gone from this point, eventually connecting to the west end of I-291 over I-91 in Windsor.

A piece of what is now CT 9 in New Britain sat unfinished through much of the 1980s. That was from today's Exit 28 (CT 72 West) north to Exit 29 (CT 175 - Newington/CCSU). This was opened soon after a new segment of CT 9 was opened between I-91 in Cromwell and US 5/CT 15 (Berlin Turnpike) in Berlin. That was around 1989-90 or so. The last 2-mile segment of CT 9, from Exit 29 to the "stack" was opened on September 30, 1992.

Then there's the subject of pieces of I-84 towards Providence which did get built: present I-384 from the East Hartford/Manchester town line to Bolton, along with the short US Route 6 expressway north of Willimantic (which is part of Windham, CT).

Last, but not least, is the controversial Busway between downtown New Britain and Hartford's Union Station. Much of the line in Newington will be along a little used (if ever) train right-of-way. This was set back many years, but is in its early stages of construction now.

[bugo]

The portion of the Creek Turnpike from the US 75 interchange to the US 64/169/Memorial interchange was originally going to be built as the Creek Freeway, aka Oklahoma state highway 117.  For whatever reason, the road was built by the OTA instead of ODOT.  The Gilcrease Turnpike is a future example.

Okay, where did you get that from? I've done a lot of research into the Creek (been meaning to expand the shit out of the Wikipedia article...) and have never heard of 117 being involved in it at any point. As far as I know, the Creek was originally proposed as part of Tulsa's freeway system in the 50s and the plans sat on the shelf until the 80s, when OTA decided to build it. If you have a source for this...well...I'd certainly find it useful.

http://www.okladot.state.ok.us/memorial/highways/pdfs/us169/action14.pdf

[roadman65]

Does the original NJ Central Railroad (CNJ) being converted into NJ 440 in Bayonne, NJ count?

Then you have the Bel Air Bypass that was planned to be full freeway for US 1 in Bel Air, MD that now is a limited access facility made out of the super two that was half of the proposed freeway.  Then Water Tower Boulevard in Bel Air was originally planned to be a ramp to the never built freeway from MD 23 that was  even temporarily US 1 Southbound up until the Hickory Bypass opened.  Now with the at grade intersections of US 1 and US 1 Business, and US 1 and MD 23 built the road no longer plans to be a freeway ramp, but a local street instead.

[roadfro]

Howabout Clark County 215 around the northern part of the Las Vegas, NV metro area?

Nothing has ever been abandoned with these plans, or the corridor being intended for one purpose and ultimately used for another. The route was always planned to be a beltway built in pieces by Clark County with eventual upgrades to freeway/Interstate status--it's actually been upgraded much quicker than the original plans.

[roadman65]

I believe the Challanger Parkway overpass on FL 50 in Eastern Orange County, FL was intended to be an extension of FL 408.  Its built to freeway grade and not to ramp or arterial standards and is continuous from FL 408. Plus, with the OOCEA now going with a more southern alignment for a possible extension either to FL 520 or I-95 would not have it cross FL 50 at all.

[NE2]

I believe the Challanger Parkway overpass on FL 50 in Eastern Orange County, FL was intended to be an extension of FL 408.  Its built to freeway grade and not to ramp or arterial standards and is continuous from FL 408.

I don't think so - note that it was built concurrently with the (now-eliminated?) wide median at the curve.


https://www.oocea.com/Portals/0/docs/History%20Book/Building%20a%20Community.pdf p. 89

It was agreed that the road would cross Alafaya Trail and curve gradually northward, intersecting S.R. 50 nearly a mile to the east. That made the Eastern Extension a six-mile road. The interchange would allow a connection with the Central Florida Research Park, which donated some right-of-way.

[Scott5114]

The portion of the Creek Turnpike from the US 75 interchange to the US 64/169/Memorial interchange was originally going to be built as the Creek Freeway, aka Oklahoma state highway 117.  For whatever reason, the road was built by the OTA instead of ODOT.  The Gilcrease Turnpike is a future example.

Okay, where did you get that from? I've done a lot of research into the Creek (been meaning to expand the shit out of the Wikipedia article...) and have never heard of 117 being involved in it at any point. As far as I know, the Creek was originally proposed as part of Tulsa's freeway system in the 50s and the plans sat on the shelf until the 80s, when OTA decided to build it. If you have a source for this...well...I'd certainly find it useful.

http://www.okladot.state.ok.us/memorial/highways/pdfs/us169/action14.pdf

why is it the more i learn about oklahoma highways the less they make sense

why
why

[bugo]

Because it's Oklahoma, the weirdest state in the union.  Where else can you find laundromats with a bar and pool tables?  Where else do you find convenience stores in apartment complexes?

[Scott5114]

Where else can you find stuff like this?

[KEVIN_224]

Because it's Oklahoma, the weirdest state in the union.  Where else can you find laundromats with a bar and pool tables?  Where else do you find convenience stores in apartment complexes?

I believe there's one within an apartment complex in New Haven, CT, across from Union Station. That would be their Amtrak/Metro North and Greyhound/Peter Pan terminal.

[bugo]

Where else can you find stuff like this?

Where the fuck is that?

[Scott5114]

OK 152 in Caddo County. Not in the ROW, of course, in an adjacent field. The other side:

[bugo]

I love being threatened by religious believers.  My, how "christian" of them.

[hbelkins]

I'd love to know the history of that sign: Who erected it, where they got their materials, etc.

[Truvelo]

Why do so many signs have bullet holes in them? Have people got nothing better to do.

[kinupanda]

OK 152 in Caddo County. Not in the ROW, of course, in an adjacent field. The other side:

At least it's not in Clearview.

[NE2]

I'd love to know the history of that sign: Who erected it, where they got their materials, etc.

Stolen from a blind orphan.

[Alps]

Where else can you find stuff like this?

I think this needs to go in Best Of, with absolutely no further explanation.

[roadman65]

I forgot about this one, but State Road 414 in Orange County, FL where maintained by OOCEA (John Landis Apopka Bypass) was  originally to be a state project free of tolls.