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Started by Bruce, April 09, 2013, 09:05:50 PM

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kphoger

Quote from: briantroutman on April 10, 2013, 06:14:41 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 09, 2013, 09:19:46 PM
Wichitans call I-135 "I-35".  :bigass:

This isn't limited to Wichita. When I worked at a AAA office in Williamsport, PA, I had a very frustrating time with an elderly woman trying to explain the difference between I-80 and I-180.

The 1s seem to be the ugly stepchildren 3DIs. Is it just my imagination—it seems there are a lot of 1XXs that dead-end at airports (190 at O'Hare, 195 at BWI, 105 at LAX). And people tend to think of them as the "road to the airport". Or they lead to godforsaken destinations like Hennepin, Salina, or Reading. Or Williamsport.

People in Williamsport refer to I-180 as "The Beltway" as the entire Lock Haven to Milton 80-to-80 loop was originally promoted as the Susquehanna Beltway. For many of the parochial people of the area, "beltway" has become a generic term for freeway.

The more I go along, the less I like parent/child route numbers.  I'd rather have random numbers than regions where five highways all share the last two digits.

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Alps

Quote from: Pete from Boston on April 13, 2013, 04:03:54 AM(I sense a thread of names few people use anymore...).

Just take Route 6 to the George Washington Bridge or Route S-3 to the Lincoln Tunnel.

kphoger

Access roads,
Frontage roads,
Service roads,
Feeder roads,
Carriles laterales...  :sombrero:

Are there other names for these things?

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Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

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Alps

Quote from: kphoger on April 13, 2013, 04:27:37 PM
Access roads,
Frontage roads,
Service roads,
Feeder roads,
Carriles laterales...  :sombrero:

Are there other names for these things?
On Route 3 they're called the Local Lanes.

Billy F 1988

"The 93 Strip" - refers to businesses along US 93 in Missoula.

"Deadman's Corner" - just a phrase I coined up upon slipping off a corner departing a railroad crossing on Beckwith Street in Frenchtown proper. People tend to brake within at least less than 100 feet from the 90 degree corner and end up there. Some just plow past the corner and slam into the guardrail that is supposed to act as a barrier in front of the Montana Rail Link utility shed.

"Old Highway 10" - the remnances of what was US 10 in Missoula before being culled (or pushed back) to Fargo, ND in 1986. (Well, until the goats from Alanland ate up the remnances of US 10 anyways!)
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hbelkins

Quote from: kphoger on April 13, 2013, 04:27:37 PM
Access roads,
Frontage roads,
Service roads,
Feeder roads,
Carriles laterales...  :sombrero:

Are there other names for these things?

My wife has a few names for them, based on her travels in Texas. None are suitable for a family-friendly Web site.  :verymad:
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Pete from Boston

Quote from: Steve on April 13, 2013, 05:58:43 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 13, 2013, 04:27:37 PM
Access roads,
Frontage roads,
Service roads,
Feeder roads,
Carriles laterales...  :sombrero:

Are there other names for these things?
On Route 3 they're called the Local Lanes.

Collector/distributor roads.
Marginal roads.

kendancy66

Quote from: roadman65 on April 09, 2013, 10:34:02 PM
If this topic is what I think then you cannot rule out the Garden State Parkway as being called "The Parkway."

"The Parkway" is actually a street name in Alexandria ,VA .  It runs between Telegraph Rd and S Kings Hwy.

Kacie Jane

Quote from: Pete from Boston on April 13, 2013, 08:15:52 PM
Quote from: Steve on April 13, 2013, 05:58:43 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 13, 2013, 04:27:37 PM
Access roads,
Frontage roads,
Service roads,
Feeder roads,
Carriles laterales...  :sombrero:

Are there other names for these things?
On Route 3 they're called the Local Lanes.

Collector/distributor roads.
Marginal roads.

Collector/distributor roads at least are something different to me.  They're the lanes on either side of I-5 here separating the cloverleaf from the mainline to minimize weaving.  But they're still part of the limited-access portion of the freeway, whereas a frontage road typically has no shortage of businesses and private driveways.

1995hoo

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Quote from: kphoger on April 13, 2013, 04:27:37 PM
Access roads,
Frontage roads,
Service roads,
Feeder roads,
Carriles laterales...  :sombrero:

Are there other names for these things?

I've heard them called "side streets."




Quote from: kendancy66 on April 13, 2013, 10:03:02 PM
Quote from: roadman65 on April 09, 2013, 10:34:02 PM
If this topic is what I think then you cannot rule out the Garden State Parkway as being called "The Parkway."

"The Parkway" is actually a street name in Alexandria ,VA .  It runs between Telegraph Rd and S Kings Hwy.

I live not far from there. My sat-nav shows it as a street called simply "The" (i.e., Telegraph Road is shown as "Telegraph" and so "The Parkway" is shown as "The").
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txstateends

Quote from: Pete from Boston on April 13, 2013, 08:15:52 PM
Quote from: Steve on April 13, 2013, 05:58:43 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 13, 2013, 04:27:37 PM
Access roads,
Frontage roads,
Service roads,
Feeder roads,
Carriles laterales...  :sombrero:

Are there other names for these things?
On Route 3 they're called the Local Lanes.

Collector/distributor roads.
Marginal roads.

In MO, most if not all are called 'outer roads'.
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Pete from Boston

Quote from: txstateends on April 14, 2013, 04:29:11 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on April 13, 2013, 08:15:52 PM
Quote from: Steve on April 13, 2013, 05:58:43 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 13, 2013, 04:27:37 PM
Access roads,
Frontage roads,
Service roads,
Feeder roads,
Carriles laterales...  :sombrero:

Are there other names for these things?
On Route 3 they're called the Local Lanes.

Collector/distributor roads.
Marginal roads.

In MO, most if not all are called 'outer roads'.

I've heard both "outer lanes" and "outer roadway" in traffic reports.

NE2

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JMoses24

Quote from: hbelkins on April 12, 2013, 11:31:15 PM
Quote from: JMoses24 on April 12, 2013, 07:11:01 PM
"The Cut-in-the-Hill": Two separate hills get this distinction:

1) The more well known version along I-75/71 between downtown Cincinnati and Northern Kentucky, from Exit 192, Fifth Street/Covington/Newport to Exit 189, KY SR 1072 aka Kyles Lane/Fort Wright/Park Hills

I still call that "Death Hill" because that's the nickname it had before it was rebuilt in the late 80s/early 90s.

I had forgotten about that. Then again, in the late 80s/early 90s I was a little kid who had no concept of interchanges, cloverleaves, lane miles or anything of that sort. Though I did know what a road sign was. :)

empirestate

Quote from: 1995hoo on April 14, 2013, 03:29:31 PM
Quote from: kendancy66 on April 13, 2013, 10:03:02 PM
"The Parkway" is actually a street name in Alexandria ,VA .  It runs between Telegraph Rd and S Kings Hwy.

I live not far from there. My sat-nav shows it as a street called simply "The" (i.e., Telegraph Road is shown as "Telegraph" and so "The Parkway" is shown as "The").

That's a humorous example of how so many of our new-fangled data systems can't correctly parse the various "parts of speech" in a road name. A more common example is abbreviating cardinal directions when they're part of the name proper, rather than being used as a modifier. "E End Ave" is a Pittsburgh street I used to live on; it's actually {East End} Ave, not the eastern component of the {End} Ave system. A more egregious example shows up in Austin, TX, where you get "Far W Blvd" instead of "Far West Blvd".

Ironically, "The" for "The Parkway" is strangely correct in a system that is expected to drop road type descriptors. "Parkway" is still being used as a descriptor here; it's just that they deciding not to identify the parkway any more specifically by giving it a proper name, so it gets the generic article "The". A workaround would be to classify {The Parkway} as the proper name, without any descriptors, but that doesn't quite reflect the function of the word "Parkway" in this construct.

I don't know why I seem to be fascinated by the grammar of street names...

kphoger

Quote from: txstateends on April 14, 2013, 04:29:11 PM
Quote from: Pete from Boston on April 13, 2013, 08:15:52 PM
Quote from: Steve on April 13, 2013, 05:58:43 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 13, 2013, 04:27:37 PM
Access roads,
Frontage roads,
Service roads,
Feeder roads,
Carriles laterales...  :sombrero:

Are there other names for these things?
On Route 3 they're called the Local Lanes.

Collector/distributor roads.
Marginal roads.

In MO, most if not all are called 'outer roads'.

Oh, of course!  How did I forget that one?

Quote from: NE2 on April 14, 2013, 07:49:21 PM
Backage roads are cooler.

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He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

Alps


NE2

Hell yeah they do. Pedestrian access from the main road, vehicle access from the backage road.
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agentsteel53

Quote from: NE2 on April 16, 2013, 02:09:02 AM
Hell yeah they do. Pedestrian access from the main road, vehicle access from the backage road.

I don't think "large box stores with huge parking lots in front" precisely match your ideas of a pedestrian-friendly multimodal utopia.
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kphoger

I don't know..... I've seen large trucks, passenger cars, pedestrians, cyclists, and transit buses all share those parking lots quite harmoniously.  :cool:

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

agentsteel53

Quote from: kphoger on April 16, 2013, 02:40:55 PM
I don't know..... I've seen large trucks, passenger cars, pedestrians, cyclists, and transit buses all share those parking lots quite harmoniously.  :cool:

maybe it's just California... here, people seem to devolve to a more simian form when they enter a mall parking lot.
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Quote from: agentsteel53 on April 16, 2013, 03:02:03 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 16, 2013, 02:40:55 PM
I don't know..... I've seen large trucks, passenger cars, pedestrians, cyclists, and transit buses all share those parking lots quite harmoniously.  :cool:

maybe it's just California... here, people seem to devolve to a more simian form when they enter a mall parking lot.

Then again, you have unwritten rules in some areas like Chicagoland.

Here, the rule is that he who has the biggest balls wins the right-of-way, be it pedestrian, bicycle, or automobile.  Usually eye-to-eye contact is all that is needed, and he who blinks is he who gives right-of-way.  I do it rather often while walking through a parking lot.

Of course, all that goes out the window with an eighteen wheeler or a beater.  They tend to get right-of-way regardless.
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kphoger

Quote from: agentsteel53 on April 16, 2013, 03:02:03 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 16, 2013, 02:40:55 PM
I don't know..... I've seen large trucks, passenger cars, pedestrians, cyclists, and transit buses all share those parking lots quite harmoniously.  :cool:

maybe it's just California... here, people seem to devolve to a more simian form when they enter a mall parking lot.

In my universe, chaos and harmony can coexist.

He Is Already Here! Let's Go, Flamingo!
Dost thou understand the graveness of the circumstances?
Deut 23:13
Male pronouns, please.

Quote from: PKDIf you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use them.

Kacie Jane

Quote from: agentsteel53 on April 16, 2013, 03:02:03 PM
Quote from: kphoger on April 16, 2013, 02:40:55 PM
I don't know..... I've seen large trucks, passenger cars, pedestrians, cyclists, and transit buses all share those parking lots quite harmoniously.  :cool:

maybe it's just California... here, people seem to devolve to a more simian form when they enter a mall parking lot.

Pretty much.  When you put a stop sign in a residential area, people don't necessarily obey it, but they do take it for guidance.  "Okay, I'll slow down and look both way, but now way am I going to come to a complete stop."  Do the same in a parking lot, complete with pavement markings, and it's completely ignored.

And I'd argue that typically the latter stop sign is more necessary.

spmkam

In the NYC area, (Westchester County, NY and CT), Route 1 is the (boston) post road even in towns/cities in which it has a different name. Also, A road is named for the town it reaches, like Tarrytown Rd, Old Stamford Rd (CT-106), Danbury Rd (US-7).



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