Signs in one state about exits, or state highways for another state; BGS

Started by ethanhopkin14, July 16, 2013, 06:49:48 PM

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Ned Weasel

Quote from: NE2 on March 17, 2014, 11:29:30 AM
It's a two-lane ramp: http://www.flickr.com/photos/missriverbridge/12777474404/sizes/o/
Either the second lane begins along the bridge or they cocked up the sign. Given that the right lane appears to enter from IL 3, I'm going with cockup.

Without having driven it myself (it's on my to-do list), and without the help of Google (I'm sure it's on Google's to-do list), I'm pretty sure the signs are correct, and that the second lane for I-70 actually starts just after the bridge.

This video is the only evidence I have (skip to about 3:30 if you want to save time): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQNYNHW-QH8
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Quote from: stridentweasel on March 17, 2014, 04:00:06 PM
Quote from: NE2 on March 17, 2014, 11:29:30 AM
It's a two-lane ramp: http://www.flickr.com/photos/missriverbridge/12777474404/sizes/o/
Either the second lane begins along the bridge or they cocked up the sign. Given that the right lane appears to enter from IL 3, I'm going with cockup.

Without having driven it myself (it's on my to-do list), and without the help of Google (I'm sure it's on Google's to-do list), I'm pretty sure the signs are correct, and that the second lane for I-70 actually starts just after the bridge.

This video is the only evidence I have (skip to about 3:30 if you want to save time): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQNYNHW-QH8

He's right, thinking about it now, after having gone across that bridge both ways on Saturday.  The lane starts just after the bridge.  Funny though, that through traffic for I-70 must squeeze into the right lane and then get another lane just at that interchange.
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Reviving an old thread because the sign fits this thread perfectly. The Harry Nice Bridge is mentioned on the first page of the thread. We drove over it today and this sign in Virginia struck me because I can't think of any other instance where I've seen a sign in one state bearing the name of the governor of a different state. (The image is old; the current sign obviously bears Larry Hogan's name, and I think it was in Clearview.)

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cjk374

This begs the question: who maintains the signs for state x across the state line in state y? After re-reading all 6 pages, it seems as though the answer is "it depends".

One obvious exception that was recently put up was a sign stating that the TX welcome center on I-20 is sponsored by Geico. It is mounted on the TX "goalposts" on the Louisiana side. That is definitely TxDOT's handywork.
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ilpt4u

Is this along the lines of the sign for the Indiana Toll Road in 20 Miles, along the south end of the Tri-State in Illinois?

And I do not have photo evidence of this, but I'm all but sure that the exit for I-80/94 West from I-65 North in IN used to have an Illinois Tollway Shield, but it is gone, after that interchange was redesigned and rebuilt years ago now

formulanone

Here's New Mexico's attempt to sign a Farm-to-Market route on I-10:


The "Mexico 45" signs in El Paso - there's at least three of them:


Here's an Autoroute 15 shield in Rouses Point, New York:



ModernDayWarrior

I-70 eastbound in St. Louis, on the approach to the Stan Musial Bridge (one of the very few Clearview signs in Missouri)

mo70-1 by Modern Day Warrior, on Flickr

I-72 eastbound in Hannibal, on the approach to the Mark Twain Bridge

mo72-1 by Modern Day Warrior, on Flickr

Eth

This sign for I-85's exit 1 in South Carolina is located in Georgia, and isn't quite built to spec of either state. The destination text looks almost, but not quite, like Georgia's pre-2008 standard Series D (maybe E compressed to D width?). The exit tab looks like perhaps a Georgia-style approximation of SC's external tab; a true SC tab would have no bottom border and would be offset slightly to the left.


formulanone

Quote from: Eth on July 31, 2018, 08:18:43 AM
This sign for I-85's exit 1 in South Carolina is located in Georgia, and isn't quite built to spec of either state. The destination text looks almost, but not quite, like Georgia's pre-2008 standard Series D (maybe E compressed to D width?). The exit tab looks like perhaps a Georgia-style approximation of SC's external tab; a true SC tab would have no bottom border and would be offset slightly to the left.



Yeah, South Carolina's exit tabs have that indent near "right justification". They seem to center it on a handful of small overhead signs.

On the other side of I-85, it looks like South Carolina supplied the sign for their exit:


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I-80 in Wendover UT, for Exit 410 in West Wendover NV. (photo credit aaroads)



This is notable for two reasons. First, neither US 93 nor Alt 93 even enter Utah, and this is the only US 93 sign anywhere in Utah (unless there’s one I didn’t see on the Wendover BL). The other thing is that this is the highest signed exit number in Utah.

hbelkins

Kentucky did a sign replacement project on I-64 back in the late 90s/early 00s, that included the signage for the US 52 exit in West Virginia.

Then West Virginia came along and replaced that sign about eight years ago as part of its own sign replacement efforts. It should be noted that while much of the signage replaced in WV was button copy, the sign in Kentucky that's been replaced twice was not.
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SP Cook

Quote from: hbelkins on July 31, 2018, 11:49:24 AM
Kentucky did a sign replacement project on I-64 back in the late 90s/early 00s, that included the signage for the US 52 exit in West Virginia.

Then West Virginia came along and replaced that sign about eight years ago as part of its own sign replacement efforts. It should be noted that while much of the signage replaced in WV was button copy, the sign in Kentucky that's been replaced twice was not.

The typical practice, not on the interstates, in WV is to just trade signs.  You have some pictures upthread of Ohio signs in WV.   The Ohio signs, if you look closely, have the "bug" indicating when and where ODOT made the sign.  Since it all comes out to a wash (WV is going to give Ohio about the same number of WV 2 signs as it takes OH 7 signs) it is just an informal courtesy thing.

I note that there is signage on US 52 in Ohio near the 17th St W Bridge, directing to I-64, which I-64 never enters Ohio.  Signage directing a motorist to a 2di in a state where that road never enters and where the road is not terminating at/near the state line has to be pretty rare.

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Quote from: SP Cook on July 31, 2018, 02:45:01 PM
Signage directing a motorist to a 2di in a state where that road never enters and where the road is not terminating at/near the state line has to be pretty rare.

There are probably a whole bunch of signs in New Hampshire for I-91.
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Quote from: cjk374 on July 30, 2018, 06:28:21 PM
This begs the question: who maintains the signs for state x across the state line in state y? After re-reading all 6 pages, it seems as though the answer is "it depends".

It looks like in some cases some states even make signs to give to other states to install. The example cited for La Crosse, WI on I-90 a couple pages back has an advance guide sign for the US 14/61 exit in MN, which looks like a WisDOT job. But there was also a "TO MN 16/La Crescent"  sign still on the WI side that was clearly made by MnDOY.

hbelkins

Quote from: SP Cook on July 31, 2018, 02:45:01 PM
Quote from: hbelkins on July 31, 2018, 11:49:24 AM
Kentucky did a sign replacement project on I-64 back in the late 90s/early 00s, that included the signage for the US 52 exit in West Virginia.

Then West Virginia came along and replaced that sign about eight years ago as part of its own sign replacement efforts. It should be noted that while much of the signage replaced in WV was button copy, the sign in Kentucky that's been replaced twice was not.

The typical practice, not on the interstates, in WV is to just trade signs.  You have some pictures upthread of Ohio signs in WV.   The Ohio signs, if you look closely, have the "bug" indicating when and where ODOT made the sign.  Since it all comes out to a wash (WV is going to give Ohio about the same number of WV 2 signs as it takes OH 7 signs) it is just an informal courtesy thing.

I note that there is signage on US 52 in Ohio near the 17th St W Bridge, directing to I-64, which I-64 never enters Ohio.  Signage directing a motorist to a 2di in a state where that road never enters and where the road is not terminating at/near the state line has to be pretty rare.

Kentucky's treatment of US 52 is unusual. There are some locations where, in the past, it's been obvious that Kentucky used WV-manufactured US 52 signs. And in other cases, the signs were obviously of Kentucky origin.

Once upon a time, there were even Ohio-made US 23 signs just south of the bridges at Portsmouth. I have some pictures that, when blown up, have the "ODOT" markings in plain view. If I'm not mistaken, there was one assembly that had both an Ohio-issue US 23 marker and a Kentucky-made US 52 sign.
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doorknob60

On AB-4 in Lethbridge, AB, a sign for I-15.


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Interesting because it is 100 km from the border. I think that's the farthest away I-15 marker I saw, though I'm pretty sure there were also more as you got closer to the border.

Scott5114

On I-435 in MO there's some K-5 shields on signs that are very clearly MoDOT-made.

Going the other way, on a next-three-exits median panel, KDOT includes a shield for K-5 but for the first lettered route in MO spells it out as "Route N", as is MoDOT style.
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freebrickproductions

Surprised this sign on I-24 eastbound in eastern Tennessee near the duck into Georgia hasn't been mentioned, especially since it features a (Georgia) state named I-59 shield!
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Quote from: freebrickproductions on August 01, 2018, 05:14:04 AM
Surprised this sign on I-24 eastbound in eastern Tennessee near the duck into Georgia hasn't been mentioned, especially since it features a (Georgia) state named I-59 shield!
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.991388,-85.4779465,3a,16y,116.84h,92.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWpAvB6HZ8o9DCgJ_0ihxJw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I figured only Georgia could supply that, given Tennessee's typical disdain for state-named shields.

Eth

Quote from: formulanone on August 01, 2018, 07:43:47 AM
Quote from: freebrickproductions on August 01, 2018, 05:14:04 AM
Surprised this sign on I-24 eastbound in eastern Tennessee near the duck into Georgia hasn't been mentioned, especially since it features a (Georgia) state named I-59 shield!
https://www.google.com/maps/@34.991388,-85.4779465,3a,16y,116.84h,92.97t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sWpAvB6HZ8o9DCgJ_0ihxJw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

I figured only Georgia could supply that, given Tennessee's typical disdain for state-named shields.

Plus the rest of the sign is in Series D, so that's definitely a Georgia sign. The thicker numerals in the shield were more of a thing earlier in that experiment, so I'd say this sign most likely dates back to the 1990s.

bzakharin

Quote from: jeffandnicole on July 18, 2013, 09:06:23 AM
The newer small green signs on the Delaware Memorial Bridge NB are for the 295/NJ Turnpike Split in NJ.  Over 3/4 of that bridge is in Delaware, including where most of those signs are mounted. (Delaware's state jurisdiction includes ALL of the Delaware river in that area).

There used to be small signs showing where the state line was, but they've been missing for many, many years.


They did just recently install new mile markers resetting to 0 at the state line (rather than increasing through the entirety of the DRBA jurisdiction)


SectorZ

Quote from: 1 on October 04, 2013, 08:34:14 PM
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This sign is incorrect, since it should be a NH 121A sign, not a MA 121A sign.

Go north 2 steps and you will see a NH 121A reassurance shield despite still being in Massachusetts.

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