The universe according to MMM

[Max Rockatansky]

Are you as passionate about all duplexed routes, or just the ones that could be twisted into making I-90 not the longest interstate anymore?

Only when x0s or x5s run along each other, otherwise I don't mind concurrencies, even the triple concurrencies in wisconsin don't bother me. I don't have a prejudice for I-80 or anything, I treat all highways fairly, but accurate grids and highways that are distinct from each other are needed. I don't hate any numbers either, it's just that abominable numbering like I-99 in PA needs to be changed as soon as possible (I would even recommend temporarily shutting the road down for a couple weeks while PennDot quickly rushes to manufacture new signs renumbering it I-280, which would be flown in by helicopter to install them as quickly as possible). And BTW, I would actually prefer that I-90 is the longest interstate, because the highest x0 also being the longest is a nice combination. But no interstate should be the longest as the sole result of bootlegging off of another. In fact, since I-80 is only 121 miles shorter than I-80, and the concurrency is about 275 miles, I-80 is the longest.

[Scott5114]

I think that I-90 needs to be extended along I-5 from Seattle, down to San Francisco, then down I-80 across Nevada, Utah, Wyoming, Nebraska, Iowa, and Illinois. On its east end, it should be extended along I-95 down to New York, then west along I-80 across New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. I think this is needed.

[Scott5114]

How is it going to be extended westbound on I-80 in NJ?

Aggressively and relentlessly.

[MultiMillionMiler]

Are you saying it essentially does a U turn after hitting NYC? If so, how is I-95 incorporated into it?

[Scott5114]

They take the 95 shield down, put the 90 shield where it was, and then put the 95 shield below or to the right of it.

[Max Rockatansky]

Every Interstate should be signed I-90.  I think this is needed.

[kalvado]

Every Interstate should be signed I-90.  I think this is needed.

I-90-81 or I-90-40 sounds sexy!

[Scott5114]

What I mean is if you're replacing most of I-80 with I-90, how does it loop back the other way once it's in NJ? How exactly is it using I-95 to make this U turn?

No, I'm not replacing it. The I-90 shields will be added under or to the right of the I-80 shields.

[Max Rockatansky]

^^^

Signed as I-90-90

Every Interstate should be signed I-90.  I think this is needed.

I-90-81 or I-90-40 sounds sexy!

How about I-90-69?  Nice huh?

[algorerhythms]

I think that I-90 needs to be extended along I-5 from Seattle, down to San Francisco, then down I-80 across Nevada, Utah, Wyoming, Nebraska, Iowa, and Illinois. On its east end, it should be extended along I-95 down to New York, then west along I-80 across New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. I think this is needed.

We need to find a way to extend I-90 to cover all 2-digit interstates without any gaps and without overlapping itself. Where's Euler when we need him?

[Scott5114]

And what becomes of the original I-90?

It's still there. I-90 is now the Sioux City outer beltway we've always needed.

[cockroachking]

And what becomes of the original I-90?

It's still there. I-90 is now the Sioux City outer beltway we've always needed.

Is that Poiponen13's I-B9 or whatever?

[Roadgeekteen]

Every Interstate should be signed I-90.  I think this is needed.

Except I-80 which will become I-99

[hotdogPi]

Every Interstate should be signed I-90.  I think this is needed.

Except I-80 which will become I-99

The original modest proposal on this forum had I-99 unchanged to follow Congressional precedent.

[dlsterner]

Every Interstate should be signed I-90.  I think this is needed.

Except I-80 which will become I-99

I suggested that a few weeks ago   It also involves extending the (new) I-99 eastward to Long Island ending at MMM's driveway.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=32875.msg2815272#msg2815272

[Max Rockatansky]

Every Interstate should be signed I-90.  I think this is needed.

Except I-80 which will become I-99

I suggested that a few weeks ago   It also involves extending the (new) I-99 eastward to Long Island ending at MMM's driveway.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=32875.msg2815272#msg2815272

Can we turn MMM into a part of I-99?  We can make a David Cronenberg style movie out of it and call it the "Interstateling."

[Roadgeek Adam]

Every Interstate should be signed I-90.  I think this is needed.

Except I-80 which will become I-99

I suggested that a few weeks ago   It also involves extending the (new) I-99 eastward to Long Island ending at MMM's driveway.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=32875.msg2815272#msg2815272

Can we turn MMM into a part of I-99?  We can make a David Cronenberg style movie out of it and call it the "Interstateling."

Well, given my fear of this subject, I'd not be watching the film or the transformation.

[Max Rockatansky]

Every Interstate should be signed I-90.  I think this is needed.

Except I-80 which will become I-99

I suggested that a few weeks ago   It also involves extending the (new) I-99 eastward to Long Island ending at MMM's driveway.

https://www.aaroads.com/forum/index.php?topic=32875.msg2815272#msg2815272

Can we turn MMM into a part of I-99?  We can make a David Cronenberg style movie out of it and call it the "Interstateling."

Well, given my fear of this subject, I'd not be watching the film or the transformation.

I'm thinking of a premise that would involve accidental gene splicing via a teleportation device called Tellaballoon.  The hook would be that MMM's teleportation experiments goes wrong when he leaves an I-99 shield in the teleballoon by accident.  This would have course lead to a gradual metamorphosis into a hybrid human/I-99 shield.  Things would get devious when MMM-Interstate starts sprouting grapple hooks to consume prey to add to his bio-mechanical Interstate mass.  His downfall would be when he tries to become the perfect being by merging with Beverley Crusher through the Tellaballoon.

[bm7]

The standard is:

"Bootleg highways that go well out of the way of their normal latitude/longitude to run along normal highways via insanely long concurrencies, fail to meet the principles of interstate highway engineering standards and must not be signed"

How does that apply to I-90? It meets interstate highway standards, and is signed.

It shouldn't be signed though. Bootleg highways should by definition not meet interstate highway standards and therefore ineligible to join the system.

Your definition of a bootleg highway says that the highway "must not be signed". So if it is signed, how can it be a bootleg?

[kkt]

Bootleg means liquor or other contraband that was imported or produced illegally, or by anything produced against the law or rules.  The states, FHA, and the AASHTO approved the I-80/I-90 cosigned segment, so it's not a bootleg highway.

[kalvado]

The standard is:

"Bootleg highways that go well out of the way of their normal latitude/longitude to run along normal highways via insanely long concurrencies, fail to meet the principles of interstate highway engineering standards and must not be signed"

How does that apply to I-90? It meets interstate highway standards, and is signed.

It shouldn't be signed though. Bootleg highways should by definition not meet interstate highway standards and therefore ineligible to join the system.

Your definition of a bootleg highway says that the highway "must not be signed". So if it is signed, how can it be a bootleg?

Once upon a time someone tried to build a bootleg exit on I-90 in NY, no kidding!
https://jalopnik.com/a-guy-might-be-building-his-own-ramp-off-the-new-york-s-1825127269

[SectorZ]

Bootleg means liquor or other contraband that was imported or produced illegally, or by anything produced against the law or rules.  The states, FHA, and the AASHTO approved the I-80/I-90 cosigned segment, so it's not a bootleg highway.

Bands release "official bootlegs" that are typically live albums they self-release.

Maybe this is an official bootleg in the MMM-verse.

[Max Rockatansky]

Anyone else every buy bootleg VHS tapes?

[jeffandnicole]

Anyone else every buy bootleg VHS tapes?

Tapes or DVDs...no. A bowling center I worked in had a whole lot of that going on at one point though.

T-shirts and such, such as those sold in parking lots?: All the time.

[Max Rockatansky]

The standard is:

"Bootleg highways that go well out of the way of their normal latitude/longitude to run along normal highways via insanely long concurrencies, fail to meet the principles of interstate highway engineering standards and must not be signed"

How does that apply to I-90? It meets interstate highway standards, and is signed.

It shouldn't be signed though. Bootleg highways should by definition not meet interstate highway standards and therefore ineligible to join the system.

Your definition of a bootleg highway says that the highway "must not be signed". So if it is signed, how can it be a bootleg?

I said bootleg highways shouldn't be signed, not that they already aren't. And I'm an idiot for not thinking of that simple solution earlier. Just build an elevated deck or double the width and put a barrier in between the sets  of lanes, making one level/set of lanes I-80, and the other set/level of lanes I-90. As long as they are different roads, they wouldn't be bootleg.

Yes, double deck freeways were always extremely popular.  Every time I went to Seattle the locals would say "have you seen the Alaskan Way Viaduct?"