Who Is Working United States Thanksgiving XII? (2024 Christmas Creep Edition)

Started by ZLoth, November 02, 2024, 06:51:04 PM

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ZLoth

Quote from: ZLoth on November 02, 2024, 06:52:21 PMFor the first time in years, I am taking the entire f-ing week off.

Because of a medical issue, my Thanksgiving break begins tomorrow. While I only need Wednesday and Thursday off, whats the point of working Friday before taking the entire week off again?
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wanderer2575

We're closed Thursday and Friday.

AND we're closed 12/25 through 01/01.  Now in my second year here, I'm still getting used to that one after 32 years in the private sector.  I asked my boss about it last year -- what if someone needs something?  You don't understand, she patiently said -- we're closed.  Nobody is here.  Nobody is asking for anything.  If there's a personal issue (I'm in Payroll) it will wait until we return.

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vdeane

Quote from: webny99 on November 20, 2024, 07:48:44 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 03, 2024, 11:39:20 AMNeed a real holiday between Presidents' Day New Year's and Memorial Day, too.

FTFY  :sombrero:

We have two: Martin Luther King Jr. Day and President's Day.
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1995hoo

Quote from: vdeane on November 20, 2024, 08:48:15 PM
Quote from: webny99 on November 20, 2024, 07:48:44 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 03, 2024, 11:39:20 AMNeed a real holiday between Presidents' Day New Year's and Memorial Day, too.

FTFY  :sombrero:

We have two: Martin Luther King Jr. Day and President's Day.

The latter is properly called Washington's Birthday, at least if you're referring to the federal holiday.
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webny99

Quote from: vdeane on November 20, 2024, 08:48:15 PM
Quote from: webny99 on November 20, 2024, 07:48:44 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 03, 2024, 11:39:20 AMNeed a real holiday between Presidents' Day New Year's and Memorial Day, too.

FTFY  :sombrero:

We have two: Martin Luther King Jr. Day and President's Day.

Key word was real holidays, though.  :-P

hotdogPi

Easter, then. The only reason it's not a legal holiday is because it always falls on Sunday.
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1995hoo

Quote from: webny99 on November 20, 2024, 09:07:08 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 20, 2024, 08:48:15 PM
Quote from: webny99 on November 20, 2024, 07:48:44 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 03, 2024, 11:39:20 AMNeed a real holiday between Presidents' Day New Year's and Memorial Day, too.

FTFY  :sombrero:

We have two: Martin Luther King Jr. Day and President's Day.

Key word was real holidays, though.  :-P

Washington's Birthday is definitely a real holiday.
"You know, you never have a guaranteed spot until you have a spot guaranteed."
—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: 1995hoo on November 20, 2024, 09:23:25 PM
Quote from: webny99 on November 20, 2024, 09:07:08 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 20, 2024, 08:48:15 PM
Quote from: webny99 on November 20, 2024, 07:48:44 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 03, 2024, 11:39:20 AMNeed a real holiday between Presidents' Day New Year's and Memorial Day, too.

FTFY  :sombrero:

We have two: Martin Luther King Jr. Day and President's Day.

Key word was real holidays, though.  :-P

Washington's Birthday is definitely a real holiday.

Good Friday. I get the day off, so it's real to me.

webny99

Quote from: 1995hoo on November 20, 2024, 09:23:25 PM
Quote from: webny99 on November 20, 2024, 09:07:08 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 20, 2024, 08:48:15 PM
Quote from: webny99 on November 20, 2024, 07:48:44 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 03, 2024, 11:39:20 AMNeed a real holiday between Presidents' Day New Year's and Memorial Day, too.

FTFY  :sombrero:

We have two: Martin Luther King Jr. Day and President's Day.

Key word was real holidays, though.  :-P

Washington's Birthday is definitely a real holiday.

Depending on how you define it. It's a real federal holiday, but it's not one of the big six holidays observed by the majority of the workforce.

jeffandnicole

Quote from: webny99 on November 20, 2024, 10:17:30 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 20, 2024, 09:23:25 PM
Quote from: webny99 on November 20, 2024, 09:07:08 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 20, 2024, 08:48:15 PM
Quote from: webny99 on November 20, 2024, 07:48:44 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 03, 2024, 11:39:20 AMNeed a real holiday between Presidents' Day New Year's and Memorial Day, too.

FTFY  :sombrero:

We have two: Martin Luther King Jr. Day and President's Day.

Key word was real holidays, though.  :-P

Washington's Birthday is definitely a real holiday.

Depending on how you define it. It's a real federal holiday, but it's not one of the big six holidays observed by the majority of the workforce.

I dunno.  Look at rush hours around any major city.  Definitely a lot less traffic.  You may be able to see it in traffic counts as well. 

For those not working in offices, there's probably only 3 significant holidays - Christmas, Thanksgiving, and Easter - where major businesses are likely to be closed.  Anything beyond that and you're lucky to see shorter hours.

1995hoo

Quote from: webny99 on November 20, 2024, 10:17:30 PM
Quote from: 1995hoo on November 20, 2024, 09:23:25 PM
Quote from: webny99 on November 20, 2024, 09:07:08 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 20, 2024, 08:48:15 PM
Quote from: webny99 on November 20, 2024, 07:48:44 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 03, 2024, 11:39:20 AMNeed a real holiday between Presidents' Day New Year's and Memorial Day, too.

FTFY  :sombrero:

We have two: Martin Luther King Jr. Day and President's Day.

Key word was real holidays, though.  :-P

Washington's Birthday is definitely a real holiday.

Depending on how you define it. It's a real federal holiday, but it's not one of the big six holidays observed by the majority of the workforce.

Consider where I live.
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—Olaf Kolzig, as quoted in the Washington Times on March 28, 2003,
commenting on the Capitals clinching a playoff spot.

"That sounded stupid, didn't it?"
—Kolzig, to the same reporter a few seconds later.

webny99

Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 20, 2024, 10:34:03 PMI dunno.  Look at rush hours around any major city.  Definitely a lot less traffic.  You may be able to see it in traffic counts as well. 

Yeah, I agree there's noticeably less traffic on both MLK Day and President's Day. However, that doesn't mean most people have off work. Typically, only federal employees have off work on those days, though no doubt there are some people who choose it as an optional day or don't have a paid holiday but choose to schedule time off. As a percentage of the workforce, I'm finding estimates ranging from 15% to 35%.


Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 20, 2024, 10:34:03 PMFor those not working in offices, there's probably only 3 significant holidays - Christmas, Thanksgiving, and Easter - where major businesses are likely to be closed.  Anything beyond that and you're lucky to see shorter hours.

I agree these are the three holidays when retailers are least likely to be open. But almost all businesses offer paid time off for the three summer holidays and New Year's Day, even if they're still operating on those days.

webny99

Quote from: hotdogPi on November 20, 2024, 09:10:32 PMEaster, then. The only reason it's not a legal holiday is because it always falls on Sunday.

Quote from: jeffandnicole on November 20, 2024, 09:48:11 PMGood Friday. I get the day off, so it's real to me.

Not a lot of people are working on Easter, but the majority wouldn't be anyways because they work Monday to Friday.

Good Friday is probably the seventh-most common holiday for non-federal employees that work Monday-Friday. My employer typically closes that day to give employees a long weekend for Easter and a day off during the New Year's-to-Memorial Day slog. It's also typically a slow business day, which further justifies being closed.

mgk920

Howabout a *real* holiday for a few of us here in Wisconsin - December 5 (Repeal Day, celebrating Utah putting 21A over the top, repealing 18A/National Prohibition of beverage alcohol on 1933-12-05)?

:nod:

Mike

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My job is London-based.   Since Thanksgiving isn't a bank holiday in England, it's not a holiday for me either.

(Missing US Thanksgiving isn't anything new.  Prior to this year, my job had been Montréal-based for several years.)

hbelkins

1.) Don't get me started on the way the Commonwealth of Kentucky has played with the calendar to provide the statutorily-required 11.5 holidays (12.5 during presidential election years). The state has swapped a number of them in and out instead of just granting extra days. They've played musical chairs with Columbus Day, Veterans Day, MLK Day, Presidents Day (Washington's Birthday), and now "Juneteenth."

2.) It dawned on me earlier this week that the presidential inauguration day falls on MLK Day next year.
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vdeane

Quote from: webny99 on November 21, 2024, 09:04:00 AMYeah, I agree there's noticeably less traffic on both MLK Day and President's Day. However, that doesn't mean most people have off work. Typically, only federal employees have off work on those days, though no doubt there are some people who choose it as an optional day or don't have a paid holiday but choose to schedule time off. As a percentage of the workforce, I'm finding estimates ranging from 15% to 35%.
State employees have off (at least we do in NY, I imagine several other states too).  Schools have off.  Some companies have off (including the one I worked at immediately after graduating college).

Quote from: 1995hoo on November 20, 2024, 08:57:39 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 20, 2024, 08:48:15 PM
Quote from: webny99 on November 20, 2024, 07:48:44 PM
Quote from: Rothman on November 03, 2024, 11:39:20 AMNeed a real holiday between Presidents' Day New Year's and Memorial Day, too.

FTFY  :sombrero:

We have two: Martin Luther King Jr. Day and President's Day.

The latter is properly called Washington's Birthday, at least if you're referring to the federal holiday.
Technically yes, but something similar can be said about the 4th of July/Independence Day, and I find it interesting that people don't get in your face about how people refer to the latter like they do the former.

Maybe it's generational?  The only people I can think of who referred to it as Washington's Birthday instead of Presidents Day when not trying to be pedantic were my grandparents.
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Rothman

Quote from: hbelkins on November 21, 2024, 12:35:48 PM1.) Don't get me started on the way the Commonwealth of Kentucky has played with the calendar to provide the statutorily-required 11.5 holidays (12.5 during presidential election years). The state has swapped a number of them in and out instead of just granting extra days. They've played musical chairs with Columbus Day, Veterans Day, MLK Day, Presidents Day (Washington's Birthday), and now "Juneteenth."

2.) It dawned on me earlier this week that the presidential inauguration day falls on MLK Day next year.

Why is Juneteenth in quotes?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juneteenth
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oscar

Quote from: vdeane on November 21, 2024, 12:57:31 PMMaybe it's generational?  The only people I can think of who referred to it as Washington's Birthday instead of Presidents Day when not trying to be pedantic were my grandparents.

The Federal Government gets pedantic about the legal name of the February day off given to its employees. When I worked for the Federales, every February I was reminded that for us it's still "Washington's Birthday".
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Quote from: oscar on November 21, 2024, 08:17:49 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 21, 2024, 12:57:31 PMMaybe it's generational?  The only people I can think of who referred to it as Washington's Birthday instead of Presidents Day when not trying to be pedantic were my grandparents.

The Federal Government gets pedantic about the legal name of the February day off given to its employees. When I worked for the Federales, every February I was reminded that for us it's still "Washington's Birthday".

The funny thing about that is that the holiday is never observed on Washington's actual birthday. So calling it that isn't even pedantic, it's just flat out inaccurate.

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Rothman

Quote from: webny99 on November 21, 2024, 08:54:18 PM
Quote from: oscar on November 21, 2024, 08:17:49 PM
Quote from: vdeane on November 21, 2024, 12:57:31 PMMaybe it's generational?  The only people I can think of who referred to it as Washington's Birthday instead of Presidents Day when not trying to be pedantic were my grandparents.

The Federal Government gets pedantic about the legal name of the February day off given to its employees. When I worked for the Federales, every February I was reminded that for us it's still "Washington's Birthday".

The funny thing about that is that the holiday is never observed on Washington's actual birthday. So calling it that isn't even pedantic, it's just flat out inaccurate.

Pfft.  It was always Washington's Birthday (observed).
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