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Dirt Roads:
--- Quote from: FLAVORTOWN on January 27, 2023, 05:01:27 PM ---This was amusing, looks like VDOT messed up a sign here. Anyone notice whats wrong https://www.google.com/maps/@38.8176674,-77.6378112,3a,75y,334.04h,88.7t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sAz6IttqvPliX0rPUURQbBA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192 :-D
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VDOT pulled a cute one here. Left-justified ordinal for the left turn onto US-15 southbound (uncommon, but makes sense); right-justified ordinal for the right turn onto US-15 northbound (make sense); plus the Left-justified ordinal of the upcoming left lane maneuver heading west on Heathcote (very rare, but perhaps logical in this instance). So given all of those precedents, the glaring mistake is that the ordinal for westbound VA-55 should have been right justified (which would look very weird beneath the opposite arrangement). All of which should remind us, don't get so bogged down in the rules such that common sense prevails.
--- Quote from: 1995hoo on January 28, 2023, 08:30:49 AM ---That "Heathcote Blvd" sign is, shall we say, peculiar.
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And, shall I add, "sloppy".
Thing 342:
Perhaps a long shot, but does anyone know why I-64 Exit 262 is signed as 262B? I'm not aware of there having ever been plans for a 262A.
amroad17:
--- Quote from: Thing 342 on February 01, 2023, 11:59:22 PM ---Perhaps a long shot, but does anyone know why I-64 Exit 262 is signed as 262B? I'm not aware of there having ever been plans for a 262A.
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This is just surmising, but maybe there was a proposal to have an exit ramp from I-64 EB to Todd’s Lane. The ramp would briefly merge with the VA 134 SB ramp then follow the current ramp to Todd’s Lane.
Originally, when Virginia posted sequential exit numbers in the early 1980’s, this was Exit 63. Before that, I believe that this was Exit 8C as the sequential exit numbers started along Tidewater Drive in Norfolk and increased as one travelled west on I-64/VA 168 with the last posted exit number (10) at Jefferson Ave. Exits west of that point were unnumbered. Mercury Blvd. (US 258) was Exits 8A and 8B with J. Clyde Morris Blvd. (US 17) as Exit 9. When Virginia changed to mile based exit numbers in 1991, this exit became Exit 262B for some reason. That is why I think that there may at one time been a proposal, that did not come to fruition, to have an Exit 262A to Todd’s Lane on I-64 EB.
Mapmikey:
--- Quote from: amroad17 on February 02, 2023, 06:42:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: Thing 342 on February 01, 2023, 11:59:22 PM ---Perhaps a long shot, but does anyone know why I-64 Exit 262 is signed as 262B? I'm not aware of there having ever been plans for a 262A.
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This is just surmising, but maybe there was a proposal to have an exit ramp from I-64 EB to Todd’s Lane. The ramp would briefly merge with the VA 134 SB ramp then follow the current ramp to Todd’s Lane.
Originally, when Virginia posted sequential exit numbers in the early 1980’s, this was Exit 63. Before that, I believe that this was Exit 8C as the sequential exit numbers started along Tidewater Drive in Norfolk and increased as one travelled west on I-64/VA 168 with the last posted exit number (10) at Jefferson Ave. Exits west of that point were unnumbered. Mercury Blvd. (US 258) was Exits 8A and 8B with J. Clyde Morris Blvd. (US 17) as Exit 9. When Virginia changed to mile based exit numbers in 1991, this exit became Exit 262B for some reason. That is why I think that there may at one time been a proposal, that did not come to fruition, to have an Exit 262A to Todd’s Lane on I-64 EB.
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There has never been room for a ramp from I-64 EB to connect to the Todd Ln ramp even back to 1963. But even if there was, that wouldn't require the exit numbers to be 262A-B since there is only one off-ramp in each direction. You would need 2 off-ramps from the same direction of I-64.
A similar situation exists at VA 190 in Chesapeake (only one off-ramp total) and it is Exit 292 with Exit 291A-B very close by.
Even with nearby Exit 296, one direction has two off-ramps (296A-B) and the other only has one (296).
amroad17:
--- Quote from: Mapmikey on February 02, 2023, 10:00:13 AM ---
--- Quote from: amroad17 on February 02, 2023, 06:42:26 AM ---
--- Quote from: Thing 342 on February 01, 2023, 11:59:22 PM ---Perhaps a long shot, but does anyone know why I-64 Exit 262 is signed as 262B? I'm not aware of there having ever been plans for a 262A.
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This is just surmising, but maybe there was a proposal to have an exit ramp from I-64 EB to Todd’s Lane. The ramp would briefly merge with the VA 134 SB ramp then follow the current ramp to Todd’s Lane.
Originally, when Virginia posted sequential exit numbers in the early 1980’s, this was Exit 63. Before that, I believe that this was Exit 8C as the sequential exit numbers started along Tidewater Drive in Norfolk and increased as one travelled west on I-64/VA 168 with the last posted exit number (10) at Jefferson Ave. Exits west of that point were unnumbered. Mercury Blvd. (US 258) was Exits 8A and 8B with J. Clyde Morris Blvd. (US 17) as Exit 9. When Virginia changed to mile based exit numbers in 1991, this exit became Exit 262B for some reason. That is why I think that there may at one time been a proposal, that did not come to fruition, to have an Exit 262A to Todd’s Lane on I-64 EB.
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There has never been room for a ramp from I-64 EB to connect to the Todd Ln ramp even back to 1963. But even if there was, that wouldn't require the exit numbers to be 262A-B since there is only one off-ramp in each direction. You would need 2 off-ramps from the same direction of I-64.
A similar situation exists at VA 190 in Chesapeake (only one off-ramp total) and it is Exit 292 with Exit 291A-B very close by.
Even with nearby Exit 296, one direction has two off-ramps (296A-B) and the other only has one (296).
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That’s true. It is probably “one of those things” as to why Exit 262B is signed that way.
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