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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #1725 on: December 16, 2021, 06:51:03 PM »

There is some sort of construction going on at the 291 interchange, where the roadways at the stop light are being re-aligned.   The light isn't being removed, but I think the road is being angled to be less of a hard 90-degree turn.
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« Reply #1726 on: December 19, 2021, 11:34:20 PM »

Curiosity question about MA30/Commonwealth Ave. It runs as a divided roadway throughout the Boston city limits, as the Green Line light rail runs through the median. Past there, it looks like it was built as a divided roadway all the way out to the 95 and 90 interchange but past the city limits they don't use one side of it except for local access to driveways and stuff, and the other roadway hosts two lane traffic. I'm curious why they did this.
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« Reply #1727 on: December 20, 2021, 08:59:53 AM »

Curiosity question about MA30/Commonwealth Ave. It runs as a divided roadway throughout the Boston city limits, as the Green Line light rail runs through the median. Past there, it looks like it was built as a divided roadway all the way out to the 95 and 90 interchange but past the city limits they don't use one side of it except for local access to driveways and stuff, and the other roadway hosts two lane traffic. I'm curious why they did this.

It's called the Commonwealth Ave Carraigeway. It was an intentional design by Frederick Law Olmstead as part of the Emerald Necklace.

Apparently it's getting a re-design soon, https://www.newtonma.gov/government/planning/transportation-planning/projects/commonwealth-avenue-carriageway-redesign
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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #1728 on: December 24, 2021, 01:53:57 AM »

Curiosity question about MA30/Commonwealth Ave. It runs as a divided roadway throughout the Boston city limits, as the Green Line light rail runs through the median. Past there, it looks like it was built as a divided roadway all the way out to the 95 and 90 interchange but past the city limits they don't use one side of it except for local access to driveways and stuff, and the other roadway hosts two lane traffic. I'm curious why they did this.

It's called the Commonwealth Ave Carraigeway. It was an intentional design by Frederick Law Olmstead as part of the Emerald Necklace.

Apparently it's getting a re-design soon, https://www.newtonma.gov/government/planning/transportation-planning/projects/commonwealth-avenue-carriageway-redesign

I'm not impressed. That's only about a third of a mile.

Comm Ave was never part of the Emerald Necklace, which is along the Arborway, Jamaicaway, Riverway, and Fenway. That doesn't mean that Olmstead didn't design it, though.

I recall driving Comm Ave a lot in the early 70s, and west of Washington St (route 16), the narrow side was used for westbound traffic. I remember being pissed off when I drove through there one day, and there was a new shoefly squeezing us all over to the left side. So I don't think it was originally intended as a road with one side reserved for local traffic, just a normal divided road but with actual carriages on it, and then later one side was widened out of necessity and the other wasn't. Just my guess.
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« Reply #1729 on: December 25, 2021, 09:04:22 PM »

Curiosity question about MA30/Commonwealth Ave. It runs as a divided roadway throughout the Boston city limits, as the Green Line light rail runs through the median. Past there, it looks like it was built as a divided roadway all the way out to the 95 and 90 interchange but past the city limits they don't use one side of it except for local access to driveways and stuff, and the other roadway hosts two lane traffic. I'm curious why they did this.

It's called the Commonwealth Ave Carraigeway. It was an intentional design by Frederick Law Olmstead as part of the Emerald Necklace.

Apparently it's getting a re-design soon, https://www.newtonma.gov/government/planning/transportation-planning/projects/commonwealth-avenue-carriageway-redesign

As long as whatever they do (in that project or the future work on the bridge over the Charles) doesn't eliminate the amazing old median double-flasher with diagonal yellow arrows and a classic Newton square, old-font KEEP RIGHT sign.  I remember that from when we would visit my late grandmother when she lived in Newton a long, long time ago.  It was there the last time I was by it a couple years ago; I hope it is still there.
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« Reply #1730 on: January 14, 2022, 06:29:44 PM »

I drove to Tyngsboro from CT yesterday.
Why are there two sets of mile markers on I-290? Is it multiplexed?


I noticed quite a few extruded aluminum signs seem to ďbleachĒ white from my headlights for a second just before I drive under them. I could see how the white and green would blend together for certain drivers.  I donít notice that w CT ones. They stay clear and vibrant color wise as I drive towards them.

I remember some NY signs did that on I-287/87 heading east towards the TPZ Bridge. Those were really bad, youíd think it was a white sign for a few seconds.
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« Reply #1731 on: January 14, 2022, 06:34:21 PM »

I drove to Tyngsboro from CT yesterday.
Why are there two sets of mile markers on I-290? Is it multiplexed?


I noticed quite a few extruded aluminum signs seem to “bleach” white from my headlights for a second just before I drive under them. I could see how the white and green would blend together for certain drivers.  I don’t notice that w CT ones. They stay clear and vibrant color wise as I drive towards them.

I remember some NY signs did that on I-287/87 heading east towards the TPZ Bridge. Those were really bad, you’d think it was a white sign for a few seconds.

I-290 isn’t multiplexed. The second set of mile markers is from the exit renumbering in August 2021. There are dual mile markers for I-395, which ends at the Mass Pike. MassDOT has considered extending I-395 over the existing I-290 to Marlborough if the general public is used to it. It’s a little confusing at first.
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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #1732 on: February 03, 2022, 06:31:27 PM »

Governor Baker has unveiled the latest infrastructure plan for the Bay State today. 5.4 billion dollars will be devoted to highway funding and bridge upgrades. This includes the Rourke Bridge in Lowell, which is in desperate need of repair.


https://www.newburyportnews.com/news/baker-unveils-9-5b-infrastructure-plan/article_2424a45e-8537-11ec-acff-77e3d6f714e8.html
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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #1733 on: February 03, 2022, 07:11:53 PM »

Governor Baker has unveiled the latest infrastructure plan for the Bay State today. 5.4 billion dollars will be devoted to highway funding and bridge upgrades. This includes the Rourke Bridge in Lowell, which is in desperate need of repair.


https://www.newburyportnews.com/news/baker-unveils-9-5b-infrastructure-plan/article_2424a45e-8537-11ec-acff-77e3d6f714e8.html

Why does US 20 need to be widened to 4 lanes between Charlton and Oxford?

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« Reply #1734 on: February 03, 2022, 07:54:52 PM »

Governor Baker has unveiled the latest infrastructure plan for the Bay State today. 5.4 billion dollars will be devoted to highway funding and bridge upgrades. This includes the Rourke Bridge in Lowell, which is in desperate need of repair.


https://www.newburyportnews.com/news/baker-unveils-9-5b-infrastructure-plan/article_2424a45e-8537-11ec-acff-77e3d6f714e8.html

Why does US 20 need to be widened to 4 lanes between Charlton and Oxford?

For traffic shunpiking between I-84 and Worcester, and because Treehouse Brewery has grown so big.
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« Reply #1735 on: February 03, 2022, 08:46:10 PM »

It's already 4 lanes through there, the proposed project will add a center barrier instead of just double-yellow lines and add full-width shoulders and turn lanes.     This stretch carries a lot of shunpike traffic but is really windy and has a lot of driveways, leading to a high accident rate.

The section in Charlton east of MA-31 to the Oxford line was completed years ago, it's about time they do the stretch west of Charlton Ctr heading towards Sturbridge.
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Re: Massachusetts
« Reply #1736 on: February 04, 2022, 05:22:40 AM »

Governor Baker has unveiled the latest infrastructure plan for the Bay State today. 5.4 billion dollars will be devoted to highway funding and bridge upgrades. This includes the Rourke Bridge in Lowell, which is in desperate need of repair.


https://www.newburyportnews.com/news/baker-unveils-9-5b-infrastructure-plan/article_2424a45e-8537-11ec-acff-77e3d6f714e8.html

Here is the master list of all things being funded under this.

https://www.mass.gov/doc/bil-bridge-program/download
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« Reply #1737 on: February 04, 2022, 05:26:32 AM »

Governor Baker has unveiled the latest infrastructure plan for the Bay State today. 5.4 billion dollars will be devoted to highway funding and bridge upgrades. This includes the Rourke Bridge in Lowell, which is in desperate need of repair.


https://www.newburyportnews.com/news/baker-unveils-9-5b-infrastructure-plan/article_2424a45e-8537-11ec-acff-77e3d6f714e8.html

Why does US 20 need to be widened to 4 lanes between Charlton and Oxford?

For traffic shunpiking between I-84 and Worcester, and because Treehouse Brewery has grown so big.

Shunpiking indeed, especially on holidays/weekends.
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« Reply #1738 on: February 04, 2022, 09:39:54 AM »

Governor Baker has unveiled the latest infrastructure plan for the Bay State today. 5.4 billion dollars will be devoted to highway funding and bridge upgrades. This includes the Rourke Bridge in Lowell, which is in desperate need of repair.


https://www.newburyportnews.com/news/baker-unveils-9-5b-infrastructure-plan/article_2424a45e-8537-11ec-acff-77e3d6f714e8.html

Here is the master list of all things being funded under this.

https://www.mass.gov/doc/bil-bridge-program/download
That's not everything. It doesn't include the Cape Cod Bridges or the Allston Viaduct
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« Reply #1739 on: February 04, 2022, 09:48:28 AM »

Thatís odd. Perhaps the Cape Cod bridges have been put on hold until a later date. Those bridges need to be redone with all the tourist traffic that goes there every summer. The Sagamore Bridge  has that lane drop at Exit 1 and needs attention.
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« Reply #1740 on: February 04, 2022, 09:57:56 AM »

Thatís odd. Perhaps the Cape Cod bridges have been put on hold until a later date. Those bridges need to be redone with all the tourist traffic that goes there every summer. The Sagamore Bridge  has that lane drop at Exit 1 and needs attention.

I think that list you shared is just the projects that had been confirmed by the existing STIP, when they didn't have the funding needed for those projects. There are procedures needed for adding projects to the STIP. They said in the press release that "In addition to these projects, MassDOT will work over the coming months with regional partners to develop a prioritized list of roadway, bicycle and pedestrian, and safety projects to be supported with this funding."

Fingers crossed for improvements to the 93/95 Interchange in Reading.
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« Reply #1741 on: February 04, 2022, 10:25:40 AM »

Thatís odd. Perhaps the Cape Cod bridges have been put on hold until a later date. Those bridges need to be redone with all the tourist traffic that goes there every summer. The Sagamore Bridge  has that lane drop at Exit 1 and needs attention.

I think that list you shared is just the projects that had been confirmed by the existing STIP, when they didn't have the funding needed for those projects. There are procedures needed for adding projects to the STIP. They said in the press release that "In addition to these projects, MassDOT will work over the coming months with regional partners to develop a prioritized list of roadway, bicycle and pedestrian, and safety projects to be supported with this funding."

Fingers crossed for improvements to the 93/95 Interchange in Reading.

My apologies. I should have read that a little better. But yes, I do agree that 93/95 needs to be rebuilt. I get why MassDOT has held back because a full buildout would indeed destroy the houses on the Woburn side. Itís very annoying that those houses are the only obstacle. Also the Canton Death Curve at the southern I-93 junction should also be rebuilt.
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« Reply #1742 on: February 04, 2022, 11:55:36 AM »

Thatís odd. Perhaps the Cape Cod bridges have been put on hold until a later date. Those bridges need to be redone with all the tourist traffic that goes there every summer. The Sagamore Bridge  has that lane drop at Exit 1 and needs attention.

I think that list you shared is just the projects that had been confirmed by the existing STIP, when they didn't have the funding needed for those projects. There are procedures needed for adding projects to the STIP. They said in the press release that "In addition to these projects, MassDOT will work over the coming months with regional partners to develop a prioritized list of roadway, bicycle and pedestrian, and safety projects to be supported with this funding."

Fingers crossed for improvements to the 93/95 Interchange in Reading.
The Cape bridges project is also to be funded under the Infrastructure Law. A deal has been finalized between the Mass. governor and the federal government where the latter pays for the building of 2 new bridges to be built next to the existing ones, engineering work could start by the end of the year if all parties (federal, state and local) sign off on the plan. Here's a link to a news report from this morning:
https://www.boston25news.com/news/gov-baker-reaches-agreement-replace-cape-cod-bridges/1500d37b-d225-45bd-86bb-866e353c26f2/

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« Reply #1743 on: February 04, 2022, 12:38:47 PM »

Thatís odd. Perhaps the Cape Cod bridges have been put on hold until a later date. Those bridges need to be redone with all the tourist traffic that goes there every summer. The Sagamore Bridge  has that lane drop at Exit 1 and needs attention.

I think that list you shared is just the projects that had been confirmed by the existing STIP, when they didn't have the funding needed for those projects. There are procedures needed for adding projects to the STIP. They said in the press release that "In addition to these projects, MassDOT will work over the coming months with regional partners to develop a prioritized list of roadway, bicycle and pedestrian, and safety projects to be supported with this funding."

Fingers crossed for improvements to the 93/95 Interchange in Reading.

My apologies. I should have read that a little better. But yes, I do agree that 93/95 needs to be rebuilt. I get why MassDOT has held back because a full buildout would indeed destroy the houses on the Woburn side.
Itís very annoying that those houses are the only obstacle. Also the Canton Death Curve at the southern I-93 junction should also be rebuilt.
That's utterly false. It's completely possible to rebuild the interchange within its existing footprint. In fact, by removing the loops, you wind up with surplus ROW. And if you think a few dozen homeowners can stop such an important project that has backing from numerous stakeholders, you're wrong. The issue is cost.

And 128 has tons of other bottlenecks that need fixing. The US3 interchange is bad, with traffic entering from Burlington Mall conflicting with traffic getting on US 3, creating backups that usually stretch onto 95.

And the whole part from the Canton Interchange to the Braintree Split needs a full billion dollar rebuild
-The Canton Trumpet needs to be replaced with directional ramps
-The Route 24 interchange needs to lose its left hand ramps
-Don't get me started on the Braintree Split
-C/D roads should be built to fix the problem with closely spaced interchanges

Also, the Turnpike Interchange is going to need to be rebuilt sooner or later, the bridges are succumbing to concrete cancer.
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« Reply #1744 on: February 04, 2022, 01:31:30 PM »

Both 95/93 interchanges need major redos, as does 24, Braintree split, Turnpike and US 3.  I would also add that the US 20 interchange in Waltham needs an upgrade to deal with the cityís commercial development. 
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« Reply #1745 on: February 04, 2022, 02:38:27 PM »

Both 95/93 interchanges need major redos, as does 24, Braintree split, Turnpike and US 3.  I would also add that the US 20 interchange in Waltham needs an upgrade to deal with the cityís commercial development.

They're already planning improvements to the US 20 interchange
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« Reply #1746 on: February 04, 2022, 03:29:15 PM »

I find the idea of doing a major interchange reconstruction of a cramped cloverleaf like I-95/I-93 without needing ROW to be absolutely laughable.
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« Reply #1747 on: February 04, 2022, 03:59:48 PM »

I find the idea of doing a major interchange reconstruction of a cramped cloverleaf like I-95/I-93 without needing ROW to be absolutely laughable.



The sacrifice here is that it requires a relatively low design speed on the ramps.
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« Reply #1748 on: February 04, 2022, 04:04:45 PM »

Speaking of 93/95 in Woburn, I wasn't aware this concept existed.

https://www.improve93s.com/

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« Reply #1749 on: February 04, 2022, 04:23:24 PM »

I think I remember that proposal. That looks less destructive and I think this should happen. I donít see why MassDOT canít do it.
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