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NY Clinching Trip(s)
« on: May 19, 2022, 11:20:31 PM »

I don’t post full trip reports here very often, but I had a rare opportunity for a short solo road trip earlier this week and decided to take the chance to clinch some roads in western Monroe, Genesee, and – you guessed it – Orleans County!

I added mileage on 11 NY state routes and clinched NY 262, NY 272, NY 279 and NY 387 (plus an attempted clinch of NY 237 - more on that later).

I started from Webster in the late morning and took NY 104 to Lake Ave to the Lake Ontario State Pkwy (LOSP) to the NY 98 exit. The parkway was a spectacular drive as always – sunny skies, light traffic, and little enforcement, so I had the cruise at 74 mph and sped up to 80 or so as I felt comfortable doing so. Google said 32.5 miles/32 minutes from Lake Rd to NY 98 and I clocked it at just over 26 minutes. :nod:

Then the clinching fun began, as I took NY 98 south to NY 18 (had planned to take CR 55, but the bridge over Oak Orchard Creek appears to no longer exist!?). From NY 18, I took the mostly-unsigned NY 279 south to NY 98. The "five points" junction of NY 279 and NY 98 is rather odd – NY 279 SB doesn’t have to stop despite approaching at an angle, but NY 98 SB does have to stop.

My initial impression of Albion: bigger and busier than I was expecting (roast me if you must)! Stopped at Dunkin just past noon and then continued south on NY 98 to Elba. NY 98 between Albion and Elba quickly rocketed to “favorite” status for me – busy, with plenty of truck traffic, but also straight with great sight lines and ample passing opportunities. Picked up the tiny segment of NY 262 that I was missing in Elba, then headed west to Oakfield to complete a clinch of NY 262.

From there, the trip into Batavia on NY 63 was quite slow as I was following a whole string of traffic. Traffic didn’t get any better from there – the NY 5/63 overlap is a Pennsylvania-esque slog with tons of traffic, trucks, and poorly timed signals. I followed NY 5 west from Batavia which was slow on the NY 33 overlap but opens up quickly after that. I was impressed by the long four-lane stretch – rare for NY – which extends all the way to Prole Rd.

I then headed north on NY 237 with the intention of clinching the whole thing in one shot. It’s not a bad road, but seemed much slower than NY 98, with a number of curves, hamlets, and speed zones. It was also starting to cloud over and I needed to use the restroom, so that may have affected my enjoyment of the route.

After a restroom stop in Clarendon, I reached the junction with NY 31 in Holley where my plan to clinch NY 237 derailed due to a the bridge over the Erie Canal being closed. So I took the one-lane East Ave bridge instead, then Hurd Rd and Telegraph Rd back to NY 237. I didn’t go right up to the closure on either end, nor did I follow the signed detour (at least right then – I actually used most of it later), so I’ll have to come back and clinch that segment when the bridge reopens.

Back on track, I found that the northern section of NY 237 was also slow, especially through Kendall, and seemed like most of it had a 45 mph limit. Then just when it started to open up, the LOSP entrance appeared seemingly out of nowhere. I took the LOSP east for 2 miles to NY 272 (County Line Rd) and headed south for a clinch of NY 272. There’s a very strange one-lane segment here – never seen anything quite like it and couldn’t find any information online. Based on Street View it seems to have appeared since 2015. It looks permanent given the signage, but perhaps it’s “temporary” until a proper bridge can be built.

Upon reaching NY 104, I turned left and headed east to Redman Rd, then south to SUNY Brockport and used campus roads to loop around to NY 31, then headed north/west following NY 31 into Holley. I got a better impression of Holley entering from this direction – it’s a good thing NY 31A exists, because NY 31 is very slow and has a series of turns that aren’t well suited to truck traffic. Continuing west from Holley, this stretch of NY 31 was part of the NY 237 detour and was very slow as I was second in line behind a dump truck with no good passing opportunities. 

I had originally planned to take NY 31 to Albion, then NY 98 north to NY 18, but I was running low on time so I bailed via NY 387, picking up a clinch of that route. Then I took CR 32 up to NY 18 and followed NY 18 back to Hamlin. That exhausted my clinching opportunities, so I just took Google’s fastest route back from there (Curtis Rd to NY 261 to the LOSP). Finally when I got closer to home I took the opportunity to stop at Arby’s on NY 104 for a late lunch since there aren’t any Arby’s near me anymore.

All told, I picked up about 96 miles of new highway mileage and clinched four state routes in just under four hours. It was a blast!  Hopefully I have the chance for more clinching trips in the near future and if I do, I’ll post about them here.
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Re: NY Clinching Trip(s)
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2022, 07:44:42 AM »

That was a pretty long post, so I'm totally not expecting people to read the whole thing, but... I would definitely appreciate any insight on the below two points from anyone in NY or elsewhere that might know:

I took NY 98 south [from the LOSP] to NY 18 (had planned to take CR 55, but the bridge over Oak Orchard Creek appears to no longer exist!?).

I took the LOSP east for 2 miles to NY 272 (County Line Rd) and headed south for a clinch of NY 272. There’s a very strange one-lane segment here – never seen anything quite like it and couldn’t find any information online. Based on Street View it seems to have appeared since 2015. It looks permanent given the signage, but perhaps it’s “temporary” until a proper bridge can be built.
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Re: NY Clinching Trip(s)
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2022, 10:26:30 AM »

Cross-posted from the "Clinching Counties' Highways" thread:

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Today I picked up the segments of NY 33A and NY 36 that I was missing and have FINALLY completed Monroe County, NY (my home county). So for the first time in my life I can officially say that I have clinched all highways (Interstate, US, and State) in a county!

I'm not far from completing Wayne County and Ontario County, but after that... I'm out of clinching opportunities within range unless I get the chance for some longer trips. Western Orleans and southern Livingston counties are just too far away to fit within my normal limited time frame for clinching trips.
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Re: NY Clinching Trip(s)
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2022, 10:59:25 AM »

I took NY 98 south [from the LOSP] to NY 18 (had planned to take CR 55, but the bridge over Oak Orchard Creek appears to no longer exist!?).

It looks like it was closed by June 2019 based on GSV. My guess is it failed a bridge inspection and the county didn't want to pay to replace it since the NY 18 and NY 98 bridges are only a short detour.

I took the LOSP east for 2 miles to NY 272 (County Line Rd) and headed south for a clinch of NY 272. There’s a very strange one-lane segment here – never seen anything quite like it and couldn’t find any information online. Based on Street View it seems to have appeared since 2015. It looks permanent given the signage, but perhaps it’s “temporary” until a proper bridge can be built.

In this GSV, it looks like the shoulder is deteriorating. I'm guessing this is the cheap and easy solution to keep traffic away from the shoulders. I'm surprised something like this would be there for seven years, but I guess if traffic counts are low enough, it might work okay.
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Re: NY Clinching Trip(s)
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2022, 01:17:37 PM »

I took NY 98 south [from the LOSP] to NY 18 (had planned to take CR 55, but the bridge over Oak Orchard Creek appears to no longer exist!?).

It looks like it was closed by June 2019 based on GSV. My guess is it failed a bridge inspection and the county didn't want to pay to replace it since the NY 18 and NY 98 bridges are only a short detour.

It makes sense in that respect - I was just surprised because it still shows as a through road on Google Maps, with no indication of a closure.


I'm surprised something like this would be there for seven years, but I guess if traffic counts are low enough, it might work okay.

Traffic counts are very low on NY 272 even by rural NY standards. The 2019 AADT on that segment was only 636. The chances of two cars meeting at that point are really pretty minimal; I only saw a few cars along the entire length of NY 272. It looks like what's needed is a culvert, which might eventually be built, but is probably low on on NYSDOT's priority list.
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Re: NY Clinching Trip(s)
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2022, 06:19:30 PM »

I'm surprised something like this would be there for seven years, but I guess if traffic counts are low enough, it might work okay.

Traffic counts are very low on NY 272 even by rural NY standards. The 2019 AADT on that segment was only 636. The chances of two cars meeting at that point are really pretty minimal; I only saw a few cars along the entire length of NY 272. It looks like what's needed is a culvert, which might eventually be built, but is probably low on on NYSDOT's priority list.
Yeah, I'm sure there are much more pressing issues in the area if I had to guess, unless the road in question is on failure watch.
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« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2022, 08:22:28 PM »

Today I picked up the segments of NY 33A and NY 36 that I was missing and have FINALLY completed Monroe County, NY (my home county). So for the first time in my life I can officially say that I have clinched all highways (Interstate, US, and State) in a county!

I'm not far from completing Wayne County and Ontario County ...

I was able to add a second county to my list today, as I picked up the remaining segments of NY 89 and NY 370 that I needed to complete Wayne County.

A short trip summary: From the Rochester area I headed east on NY 104 to NY 89. It rained off and on for a while (I could tell I was traveling east at about the same speed as the storm) but it cleared up nicely as I took NY 89 south to Savannah. From there I continued on NY 31 east to Port Byron, then took NY 38 straight north all the way to its terminus at NY 104A. Turned right for a short hop on NY 104A east, then took NY 3 east into Hannibal. After a quick stop and a short backtrack on NY 104, I took NY 34 south to Cato. Upon reaching NY 370, I turned right and took that route back to NY 104, picking up the segment that I was missing between Rochester and Syracuse, and officially completing all NY state highways in Wayne County. Overall, I picked up new segments of six NY state routes and logged 61.5 miles of new highway mileage in just under three hours.

NY 89 was an enjoyable drive and might be my pick for favorite N/S route in Wayne County (certainly on the state highway system, but Maple St Rd/Geneva Rd north of Lyons is a great drive as well). Also of note: I fueled up as I left town and paid $4.99/gal. My purchase was capped at $75.00 and fortunately that was all I needed for my 15-gallon tank, but I guess anyone with a bigger tank would have had to run a second transaction. I also noticed as I drove down NY 104 that my range kept increasing as I went - it was at 391 miles initially, but slowly kept climbing and was at 404 miles by the time I exited NY 104 in Wolcott. I guess I should thank the slow cars I was following for keeping my speed at 55-60 mph and helping conserve valuable gas! :D
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Re: NY Clinching Trip(s)
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2022, 11:53:34 PM »

After several unsuccessful plans and tries, I finally got a chance to get down to Ontario County today and pick up the remaining segments of NY 14A and NY 245 that I needed to complete a clinch of all highways in that county. The trip went about as well as possible considering I was trying to make up time as much as I could, and clocked in at just over 2 hours and around 120 miles, plus a stop that brought it to right on 2.5 hours.

And now that I've completed three counties, I've updated my mob-rule legend to replace "Home" (formerly just Monroe County) with "Clinched All Highways": https://mob-rule.com/user-gifs/USA/webny99.gif
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Re: NY Clinching Trip(s)
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2022, 11:53:50 AM »

As I mentioned in some of the clinching highways threads, I just got back from a mini-road trip in which I clinched NY 408, NY 371, and NY 15, drove and clinched NY 70, and most importantly, clinched I-86 in New York! I may post more details later but a few quick thoughts...

-NY 70 skyrocketing on my list of favorite state routes. Peaceful, scenic, high quality road, A+ overall.
-I discovered NY 961F, a rare signed reference route in NY. Didn't have time to check it out, but it's not loggable in TM anyways. :D
-I-86 between NY 36 and I-390 is a great road. Light traffic even by I-86 standards and a wide, mostly open median, and as I found out, a lot less crosswind than I-390, at least today, anyways.
-IMO NY 15A is a better I-390 alternate than NY 15. The latter isn't bad, but it's got a long ascent coming out of Springwater, a few speed zones, and lots of curves, many of them slight but still not great sightlines nor passing opportunities compared to 15A.
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